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    solid over head work...

    love the title... it all takes time and dedication - which you seem to have...
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    Originally Posted by scott_donald View Post
    solid over head work...

    love the title... it all takes time and dedication - which you seem to have...
    It will be a process for sure. Shouldn't be too long, but will take a bit. I am thinking that next year will have a couple of mid pack finishes and the following year should lead to some top 3 finishes. Until then, I get to enjoy training and getting stronger....not all bad at all.
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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    It will be a process for sure. Shouldn't be too long, but will take a bit. I am thinking that next year will have a couple of mid pack finishes and the following year should lead to some top 3 finishes. Until then, I get to enjoy training and getting stronger....not all bad at all.
    I'm just hanging on till I turn 40....have fun buddy
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    I'm just hanging on till I turn 40....have fun buddy
    Yeah....the Masters class is no joke either. I don't know if you saw the Masters Nationals weights, but they are legitimate. If the current trend continues, then the masters class will be loading 400 lb stones to finish a series. We have no one to blame but ourselves
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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    Yeah....the Masters class is no joke either. I don't know if you saw the Masters Nationals weights, but they are legitimate. If the current trend continues, then the masters class will be loading 400 lb stones to finish a series. We have no one to blame but ourselves

    I saw the weights for >265 Master's Nationals...they're pretty comperable to a decently heavy open show. I believe the stone over bar was 345 over 52" in 60 secs



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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    I saw the weights for >265 Master's Nationals...they're pretty comperable to a decently heavy open show. I believe the stone over bar was 345 over 52" in 60 secs



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    It is 320....buuuuuut the 750 yoke/300 farmers medley is no joke, max log is what it is, the keg carry and load is topped off at 300 and car deadlifts are always fun.

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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    #spikedmetamucil

    Googled it



    Heard the gains were all dry and lean but I'm gonna need some viagra and geritol for PCT though
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    Googled it

    Heard the gains were all dry and lean but I'm gonna need some viagra and geritol for PCT though
    HAHA....if I took metamucil, my PCT would definitely include Cottonelle and baby wipes.

    Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 View Post
    having a hard time thinking of you weighing 185 back in the day.
    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    Me too...I thought I was small @ 215 as a college freshman....finished the year at 220 and graduated @ 225.



    All lean gainzzz bro
    That is where I graduated High School at. Pretty lean at the time from the lack of drinking and plenty of basketball and working to keep the calories burning. During that summer, Busch was flowing heavy and manual labor started to wane. Went to college and played quite a bit of ball, but ate a ton of food and of course....more beer.

    Funny part is that I graduated at 198....so the 13 lb difference was not far from Thad's mere 10 lbs....but that 198 was on stage of a bodybuilding competition. There was a 245-250 in there at some point.
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    metamucil taker checking in.


    I ate 2-3 pounds of cheese while on vacation. so I seriously took metamucil multiple times per day to avoid blowing out an o-ring
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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    HAHA....if I took metamucil, my PCT would definitely include Cottonelle and baby wipes.





    That is where I graduated High School at. Pretty lean at the time from the lack of drinking and plenty of basketball and working to keep the calories burning. During that summer, Busch was flowing heavy and manual labor started to wane. Went to college and played quite a bit of ball, but ate a ton of food and of course....more beer.

    Funny part is that I graduated at 198....so the 13 lb difference was not far from Thad's mere 10 lbs....but that 198 was on stage of a bodybuilding competition. There was a 245-250 in there at some point.

    You got your BodyForm samples yet??? They have fiber in them so beware


    I would usually fluctuate from 220 during the season to 225-230 in the off season. During season was awesome because I could eat any and everything I wanted and not put on weight...but it was also not awesome because I was getting the sh*t ran out me 6-7 days a week!!!
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    Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 View Post
    metamucil taker checking in.

    I ate 2-3 pounds of cheese while on vacation. so I seriously took metamucil multiple times per day to avoid blowing out an o-ring
    I seem to do good with dairy. I haz a blessed.

    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    You got your BodyForm samples yet??? They have fiber in them so beware

    I would usually fluctuate from 220 during the season to 225-230 in the off season. During season was awesome because I could eat any and everything I wanted and not put on weight...but it was also not awesome because I was getting the sh*t ran out me 6-7 days a week!!!
    Just showed up today....soooo damn tasty.

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    Just showed up today....soooo damn tasty.
    Did you get all 3 flavors???

    I freaking love the cherry limeade and pineapple...orange is kinda meh.

    0 net carbs per serving so best believe they will be part of my future CBL protocol.
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    Did you get all 3 flavors???

    I freaking love the cherry limeade and pineapple...orange is kinda meh.

    0 net carbs per serving so best believe they will be part of my future CBL protocol.
    It is perfect for the morning CBL experience. I am saving cherry limeade for last! Gonna have to pick up a tub of this stuff. Too damn good not to.
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    It is perfect for the morning CBL experience. I am saving cherry limeade for last! Gonna have to pick up a tub of this stuff. Too damn good not to.
    It's also 40 serving and ~220mg of caff per serving so I like to just use half or 3/4 scoops at a time and it seems like the tub lasts forever.



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    It's also 40 serving and ~220mg of caff per serving so I like to just use half or 3/4 scoops at a time and it seems like the tub lasts forever.



    Let me know what flavor you like best
    I am going to give these a go for next weeks workouts. Should I take them before I lift or drink them between lifting and conditioning?
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    You guys just keep right on drinking nice stimulants.


    I'll be drinking green tea pre w/o.

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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    It's also 40 serving and ~220mg of caff per serving so I like to just use half or 3/4 scoops at a time and it seems like the tub lasts forever.



    Let me know what flavor you like best
    Well....here is the other one....it is $40 for a 40 serving tub here on bb.com. Easy math equates $1/serving (trust me, I went to college). At two servings per morning, that is about $0.70 less expensive than the two 20 oz Pepsi Max that I usually have....plus it give me the fiber and other goodies along with it. So, if I switch to buying cans of Pepsi Max (2-24 packs for $9.96 this week) and drink one pop along with the BodyForm, that leaves me at $2.21/day as opposed to my current $2.70....so I would be saving ~$15/month and getting more benefit from BodyForm. Hmmmm....delicious supplement and additional steak within the current budget....I think I may have to spring for it.

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    I am going to give these a go for next weeks workouts. Should I take them before I lift or drink them between lifting and conditioning?
    I would take BodyForm in the morning and the little magic black bag before you squat.

    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    You guys just keep right on drinking nice stimulants.


    I'll be drinking green tea pre w/o.

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    Well....here is the other one....it is $40 for a 40 serving tub here on bb.com. Easy math equates $1/serving (trust me, I went to college). At two servings per morning, that is about $0.70 less expensive than the two 20 oz Pepsi Max that I usually have....plus it give me the fiber and other goodies along with it. So, if I switch to buying cans of Pepsi Max (2-24 packs for $9.96 this week) and drink one pop along with the BodyForm, that leaves me at $2.21/day as opposed to my current $2.70....so I would be saving ~$15/month and getting more benefit from BodyForm. Hmmmm....delicious supplement and additional steak within the current budget....I think I may have to spring for it.

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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    Well....here is the other one....it is $40 for a 40 serving tub here on bb.com. Easy math equates $1/serving (trust me, I went to college). At two servings per morning, that is about $0.70 less expensive than the two 20 oz Pepsi Max that I usually have....plus it give me the fiber and other goodies along with it. So, if I switch to buying cans of Pepsi Max (2-24 packs for $9.96 this week) and drink one pop along with the BodyForm, that leaves me at $2.21/day as opposed to my current $2.70....so I would be saving ~$15/month and getting more benefit from BodyForm. Hmmmm....delicious supplement and additional steak within the current budget....I think I may have to spring for it.

    *This....folks....is the random sh*t that flys through my head everyday....
    I feel your pain...Excel/Finance geek here

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    I would take BodyForm in the morning and the little magic black bag before you squat.
    That's the ticket!!



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    Fo da homiez that can't drank stims anymo
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    Originally Posted by HARRYBEAST View Post
    I just did this math for my belt. I thought I usually by new shoes for the gym about every 2 months since I get nice shoes on clearance I usually spend $50 so I told myself and Wifeybeast, that I would just not buy shoes for the rest of the year. (I just told her that though, I will probably buy some)
    That is until you want olympic lifting shoes....then you have some splaining to do.

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    I feel your pain...Excel/Finance geek here

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    That's the ticket!!

    I like Dominion, but PreWOs aren't usually on the top of my list to buy. Honestly usually forget to take them. It is a solid product though.
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    Here is a video from Justin Blake from the contest last Saturday. He took first in the heavyweights weighing in somewhere around 220 lbs. It is awesome being able to train with Justin and you can learn a lot from him.



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    Deadlifts

    Deadlift

    405 x 3 (3 sets)

    *Light. First set felt aweful. Second set was alright. Third set was cake.

    Front Squats

    135 x 5
    185 x 5
    225 x 8

    *Again....light.

    Hyperextensions

    3 sets of 10


    Very light training today. Nothing too special. Hips, back and hamstrings were pretty torn up still, so I went a bit light. Texas Power Bar is awesome for deadlifting.
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    Very light training today. Nothing too special. Hips, back and hamstrings were pretty torn up still, so I went a bit light. Texas Power Bar is awesome for deadlifting.
    It's just a great all around bar. Glad you like it!!!
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    It's just a great all around bar. Glad you like it!!!
    It felt great pressing yesterday too. Can't wait to squat on Thursday!
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    Below is an Excel file with my first draft of my programming for the next 12 weeks. It is very much Westerling influenced with a bit of tailoring to my own training. I may vary a few things as time passes, I get more equipment, etc....but this is the basic concept. If any of y'all have comments, please share. I believe I have logical reasoning for most everything I am doing, but I am sure there are a few things that could use clarification as it is tough to type in an Excel document.


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    Only thing I might think about changing that I can see offhand is...


    you might want to put your sandbag carries on your lower day 2. Also there's no progression on them unless you're keeping time or something. Either progressively carry it longer or alternate between total distance and speed weekly. I am a big fan of these BTW


    I'm guessing that you're going to probably start off your event days with a heavy pressing movement so I see your rotation on Day 1's main movement and like that.


    Just make sure that your Day 3 isn't wearing you out and draining you for your event training. 5 X 5 squats alone (depending on the weight) can be a b*tch by itself. I'd maybe take a look at overall volume for that day after you've done it through a few progressions and can assess whether it's giving you what you're looking for.


    I'd also look into putting an incline movement on that accessory day (maybe rotated with bench press because f*ck bench press ) or on your main movement for Day 1. Axle Inclines, Log inclines or Barbell Inclines, etc... I'm just starting to do log inclines to see if they make any difference in my log pressing so I can't say whether or not it works for me yet.


    Maybe look at only doing ab work 1 time per week (on lower Day 2) I think twice per week would maybe be overkill with events on Saturday....again, trial and error here
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    My comp is being a dick so can you give me a quick overview?

    ETA: DanG gave me quick overview.
    First thing I am going to suggest is sacking off events. You haven't got a comp lined up so focus on getting stronger in the gym, you are decent at stones and the moving events but your static strength just is not good enough.
    **** the events your priority needs to be your pressing and deadlift strength.
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