Need some help, trying to find a protein powder that doesn't contain Soy. I have the unfortunate problem of chronic Gout. I take medication for it daily and have done so for the past 4 years. During this time frame, while training & dieting, I have had something in my diet that is triggering Gout attacks 2-4 weeks into my training even with increased water consumption and my medicine. After changing things around trying to figure out what the trigger was, I stopped drinking my protein shakes (2 per day), and the Gout attacks stopped as well. After further research, I discovered that Soy can be very bad for someone with my condition and can actually trigger my attacks. Gout is really about balancing the acidity in your body, and Soy is a moderate to high acidic food. Whey, however, is not, it is a neutral food. Since I was only drinking my protein (ON) while training to hit my protein macros (when I had an attack I immediately stopped consuming them) I think I have isolated the source.
While I would prefer to stay on whole food as it's what is finally working, fact is I travel daily for work (sales in the oilfield) and it's not always easy to stop and eat a whole food meal. The ability to use a protein shake for a couple of my meals per day would make things a lot more convenient. I would like to try an add a protein supplement back into my diet, and I am trying to find a protein powder that does not contain Soy to see if it works.
Does anyone know of any or have any recommendations that don't contain Soy? Preferably a Whey, but I am open to all sources.
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09-08-2011, 10:49 PM #1
Protein Powder that doesn't contain Soy
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09-09-2011, 01:06 AM #2
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09-09-2011, 04:38 AM #3
Craploads of whey proteins out there. I am partial to Xtreme Formulations UP Whey.
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09-09-2011, 08:26 AM #4
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09-09-2011, 08:34 AM #5"Blood, Sweat, and Tears doesn't mean crying while you struggle to put your tampon in." ~dsade
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09-09-2011, 08:35 AM #6
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Most "whey" proteins do not actually contain Soy. Only the really cheap ones, and you'll see that in the ingredients listing typically as "Soy Isolate". An example of a product with no soy is Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey. There are hundreds of other options as well. Just because a product says "contains soy and milk ingredients" does not mean that soy is a significant ingredient. It is often listed as something called "soy lecithin", which is a product thickener, and is often in a miniscule amount, and unless you have a severe soy allergy, you will not even know it is in the product. Certainly, it will not have any acidity or estrogenic effects that you might expect from something like soy concentrate or isolate.
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09-09-2011, 11:10 AM #7
Has nothing to do with Purine content. Has everything to do with the pH levels of the body.
Correct, the ingredient is Soy Lecithin (I took the easy route and just said Soy), and even the smallest amount can trigger allergies and inflammation in someone who has medical issues with Soy. Even though Soy is processed to isolate Lecithin, it still contains a very small amount of Soy Protein and Oil. This is the reason that manufacturers have to put the warning on the label when it is used to alert those with allergies to Soy. Just because the content is 1% of the product doesn't mean it is not going to trigger a reaction. ON Gold Standard does contain Soy Lecithin.
Keep in mind, this isn't something that happens immediately after drinking one protein shake. It happens after 2-4 weeks of digesting them daily, along with the other foods such as Peanut Butter that may contain Lecithin.Last edited by |progress|; 09-09-2011 at 11:15 AM.
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09-09-2011, 11:22 AM #8
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09-09-2011, 11:26 AM #9
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damn, well good luck finding a decently priced protein shake without soy lecithin lol
I used a protein/meal replacement product from MetaGenics a couple years ago that I believe was very high quality, with no soy lecithin, etc. But it was expensive, like $50 a 2 lb tub:
http://www.metagenics.com/products/a...aClear-SUSTAIN**Eat lots and lots of birds. The smaller the bird, the more compact its protein content. Parrots are great sources for protein.**
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09-09-2011, 11:32 AM #10"Blood, Sweat, and Tears doesn't mean crying while you struggle to put your tampon in." ~dsade
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09-09-2011, 11:42 AM #11
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09-09-2011, 11:48 AM #12
I have a lot of info at home I can try to share later. I should have explained better than the 1st line of that post - it's the body's pH level, the metabolism of certain foods, the body's ability to excrete Uric Acid, etc. It's complex when it comes to Gout, not just as easy as saying don't eat foods with high purines or high acidity levels.
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09-09-2011, 11:54 AM #13
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09-09-2011, 12:44 PM #14
Doesn't appear to. Thanks for finding that.
BTW, most are probably going to have the warning they are produced in a plant that processes soy, as the nutrition company may own the recipe, they will be blended and manufactured by a 3rd party company under a private label agreement. The facilities will process more than one type, and those others will contain other ingredients. Pretty common in the food & nutrition industry."Just Get It Off"
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10-13-2011, 10:48 AM #15
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Hey guys,
I have the same problem as Progress and it is extremely frustrating not being able to down a protein shake. I have done hours of research, even emailed and called companies directly with no luck. The only protein I came across is Embryologic Whey, but cannot find any reviews on the product. I really do not want to be a guinea pig, but its almost to that point = /.
Progress, have you or anyone found a soy-free protein yet?
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09-06-2012, 08:56 PM #16
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04-10-2018, 05:41 AM #17
Soy in any form or amount produces estrogen.Regardless of the "miniscule amount" it cannot properly be synthesized therefore THE BUILDUP in the system is the concern.Miniscule amounts become measurable and cause negative,estrogenic effects.Remember the FDA doesn't require manufacturers to disclose ingredients OR the amounts within the product.So when you say "miniscule amount" who told you what amount is miniscule or how it affects the human body as a whole or each individual.
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