Is it Ok to not like Kai?

**Sherloc** · 09-07-2011, 04:47 PM

Is it ok to not like Kai Greene as a bodybuilder because of things he has had to do to get where he is today? Just a wondering because it seems like the majority of people that don't like Kai feel the way they do because of some of the questionable things he's HAD to do to survive. I personally feel that is a really poor reason to dislike someone as a bodybuilder as I'm sure the majority of them have done things that were on par or even more fuked up then what Kai had to do.

EDIT*** Hell Arnold posed nude in a homosexual magazine and no one seems to hold that against him which is worse than a grapefruit video, and he wasn't even hard off for money at the time.

**barbarian_ben** · 09-07-2011, 05:00 PM

Every person, athlete or celebrity who is some sort of public figure will be judged by the public not only by his accomplishments, but also by his perceived failures, downfalls, and vices. The public would like to hold these figures as larger-than-life, with ideals that they are greater than what they actually are.

Most public figures either attempt to limit the downfalls/vices/negatives in their lives, or to hide them. When news breaks, there is a public out cry against that person. Yet, they don`t see what the others truly are like.

Prime example: Tiger Woods

Why should the public care about anything except for his ability to play golf? That is the only reason we know of hit, and that should be the only thing we judge him on.

Kai Greene, sadly, seems to be judged by many on much more than his ability to bodybuild.

**DavisForman** · 09-07-2011, 05:01 PM

No, it is not okay.

/thread

**CompetitiveGain** · 09-07-2011, 05:05 PM

its ok for anyone on these boards to have their own opinions... the problem comes when that bodybuilder/person comes up in a thread and they have nothing else to do but to bash/flame/troll.... I'm a Kai fan and I'm not proud of some of the things he had to do to get where he was, so I comepletely understand the hate towards him, but then again I dont go around bashing every freeman thread flaming about his g4p, bashing vic for selling drugs, and bashing any other pro for the questionable sh!t they have done.... Everyone makes questionable choices in life.... one of my biggest pet peevs (spelling) is when a celeb's wrong doings are exaggerated because they are looked up to so highly. If these virgin, 30 year old 120lb *******s living in their parents basement could just keep their opinions to theirselves these boards wouldn't be so cluttered with "grapefruit" , "gh gut", "homo posing" comments and bodybuilding could take a fuking step forward in the right direction....

**xpin2winx** · 09-07-2011, 05:06 PM

he didnt have to **** a grapefruit to survive, he could of chose a different path

**Sherloc** · 09-07-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by xpin2winx

he didnt have to **** a grapefruit to survive, he could of chose a different path

Like sell crack or roids?

**DPNZ** · 09-07-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Sherloc

Hell Arnold posed nude in a homosexual magazine and no one seems to hold that against him which is worse than a grapefruit video

Not that I really give a crap about what any one of these chaps got up to, I think you're wrong on this point. You may need to actually watch the video before making that brazen claim.

**Sherloc** · 09-07-2011, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by DPNZ

Not that I really give a crap about what any one of these chaps got up to, I think you're wrong on this point. You may need to actually watch the video before making that brazen claim.

I've seen the pics of Arnold posing naked, what video do you speak of? The Kai video wasn't the point of what you quoted, Arnold posing naked in a questionable magazine without need for money was.

**CompetitiveGain** · 09-07-2011, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Sherloc

Hell Arnold posed nude in a homosexual magazine and no one seems to hold that against him which is worse than a grapefruit video, and he wasn't even hard off for money at the time.

link? trollface.jpeg

Originally Posted by xpin2winx

he didnt have to **** a grapefruit to survive, he could of chose a different path

he had to make money, how he had to do that is irrelevant. at least he didnt do anything illegal you red fuk

**DPNZ** · 09-07-2011, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Sherloc

I've seen the pics of Arnold posing naked, what video do you speak of? The Kai video wasn't the point of what you quoted, Arnold posing naked in a questionable magazine without need for money was.

Huh? You said it was worse for Arnold to be posing nude in a homosexual magazine (without compensation) than to have sex with a piece of fruit in a video geared toward the homosexual community?

I say you're incorrect.

Comes down to perspective I guess.

At any rate, regardless of Kai's antics, it doesn't have any bearing on my feeling toward him. He's still a kick-ass bodybuilder.

**CompetitiveGain** · 09-07-2011, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by DPNZ

Huh? You said it was worse for Arnold to be posing nude in a homosexual magazine (without compensation) than to have sex with a piece of fruit in a video geared toward the homosexual community?

I say you're incorrect.

Comes down to perspective I guess.

well, with all due respect for kai.... arnold was the face of bodybuilding for decades and for most normal unaware people out there still is.... so him doing gay for pay shoots would actually be worse than kai who was virtually unknown at the time he did the videos.

**shaf_nz** · 09-07-2011, 05:14 PM

Sure it's okay, if you have the mental development of a 12 year old/FullROM.

**DPNZ** · 09-07-2011, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by CompetitiveGain

well, with all due respect for kai.... arnold was the face of bodybuilding for decades and for most normal unaware people out there still is.... so him doing gay for pay shoots would actually be worse than kai who was virtually unknown at the time he did the videos.

That becomes irrelevant once you're in the limelight. It's still going to have the same impact once the person in question has a high profile.

**tsiparlanaeht** · 09-07-2011, 05:16 PM

My friend we live in a world where people hate on skin color, sexuality, looks, financial class etc. Human beings judge, it is how our society is made to function through years of corporate propaganda. You have to look a certain way, talk a certain way, act a certain way or it's taboo.

Yes he should only be judged by BODYBUILDING CRITERIA, but we are in a sport where the whole point is to be critiqued and judged. Your body, posing trunk, oil, tan etc.

I know you have judged people by first glance I know I have, we all do it. Once you get to know someone you actually realise "damn, He's actually pretty cool".

It's who we are and always will be.

Arnold is not judged since he made bodybuilding "cool" he is "cool". He became a MAJOR success and pretty much every person on earth knows him. Kai ? Not so much. That should answer your question, society turns a blind eye to successful people.

Unfair how sports stars or celebrities get special treatment ? That's life.

YES we should judge him on his body but in the same breath I read the Kai fans state he should win cause he deserves it so much, he's had the hardest life and he's so deep. Well didn't you just say we should judge the body only ? That's double standards so now YOU are being unfair. Double edged sword.

My point, people will always judge. Some people you like some you don't. You will always be judged and life is unfair.

The person who wins is the one who plays the game called Society LIFE the best.

**Sherloc** · 09-07-2011, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by DPNZ

Huh? You said it was worse for Arnold to be posing nude in a homosexual magazine (without compensation) than to have sex with a piece of fruit in a video geared toward the homosexual community?

I say you're incorrect.

Comes down to perspective I guess.

At any rate, regardless of Kai's antics, it doesn't have any bearing on my feeling toward him. He's still a kick-ass bodybuilder.

So you're saying that because he decided it was ok to pose in a nude magazine geared towards homosexuals without monetary incentive, that he should be treated better than someone who needed the money so did something he may not have agreed with in order to gain that money to survive on?

**DPNZ** · 09-07-2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sherloc

So you're saying that because he decided it was ok to pose in a nude magazine geared towards homosexuals without monetary incentive, that he should be treated better than someone who needed the money so did something he may not have agreed with in order to gain that money to survive on?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

What I am saying is that I think you're wrong for thinking what Arnold did was worse. At the end of the day, the reasons mean nothing to the public eye. The result is going to be the same.

**purdey** · 09-07-2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by xpin2winx

he didnt have to **** a grapefruit to survive, he could of chose a different path

yeah but fruit ****ing is easy money bro

**CompetitiveGain** · 09-07-2011, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by purdey

yeah but fruit ****ing is easy money bro

i'd fuk a watermelon for 500 bucks right now srs, im hurting brahs. pm me for donations.

**edward303** · 09-07-2011, 05:25 PM

Damn how is posing nude in a magazine worse than screwing a grapefruit on video?

Also Arnold was just hitting a pose, not dancing and doing a grapefruit!

Anyway... Not that should be held against Kai. Honestly I don't like Kai as a person, for the following:
His boring! his stupid damn answers never get anywhere!

And then when it comes to his physique, it can look pretty good - his thick as and looks pretty good! But I don't like his style of posing/dancing.

If I have mentioned his grapefruit before, its just added ammo for reasons why I don't like him.

So in closing I don't like who he is, and what he does. Today and in the past.

NOTE: I would like him if he just talked like a normal person! If he wins he has to talk... SOS

**tsiparlanaeht** · 09-07-2011, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by CompetitiveGain

i'd fuk a watermelon for 500 bucks right now srs, im hurting brahs. pm me for donations.

I am willing to play the game.

I will paypal you $500 if you can fit said watermelon in your ass and re-enact the scene where Simba loses his father in The Lion King.

**bbexpert** · 09-07-2011, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Sherloc

Is it ok to not like Kai Greene as a bodybuilder because of things he has had to do to get where he is today? Just a wondering because it seems like the majority of people that don't like Kai feel the way they do because of some of the questionable things he's HAD to do to survive. I personally feel that is a really poor reason to dislike someone as a bodybuilder as I'm sure the majority of them have done things that were on par or even more fuked up then what Kai had to do.

EDIT*** Hell Arnold posed nude in a homosexual magazine and no one seems to hold that against him which is worse than a grapefruit video, and he wasn't even hard off for money at the time.

The problem is not Kai, mostly is the nutthuggers, I like most others do not dislike Kai in any way, my mother is an artist in real life and I appreciate Kais art, and Kais previous activities do not phase us - which can not be named here for fear of being banned by people who do banning who may be reading.

The biggest problem is with the attitude of kais nutthuggers, yep you guys are beyond fans, take a look in the mirror. Its up to you guys to change how you are all perceived on this forum, Kai fans do not have any honour or respect for others on this forum, its quite simple - you guys are Kais worst enemy, you are trashing his good name day in day out.

**DPNZ** · 09-07-2011, 05:30 PM

If I could give you some advice FullROM:

Don't use a cropped version of your previous avatar for this account.
Change your signature, it's too similar to your previous one.

Oh and "Nut-hugger" doesn't have two T's.

**DavisForman** · 09-07-2011, 05:30 PM

And in enters FullROM ^^^

**Sherloc** · 09-07-2011, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by bbexpert

The problem is not Kai, mostly is the nutthuggers, I like most others do not dislike Kai in any way, my mother is an artist in real life and I appreciate Kais art, and Kais previous activities do not phase us - which can not be named here for fear of being banned by people who do banning who may be reading.

The biggest problem is with the attitude of kais nutthuggers, yep you guys are beyond fans, take a look in the mirror. Its up to you guys to change how you are all perceived on this forum, Kai fans do not have any honour or respect for others on this forum, its quite simple - you guys are Kais worst enemy, you are trashing his good name day in day out.

I think people are kai "nuthuggers" because a large part of the haters don't like Kai for reasons other than his physique and it irritates the crap out of them that these individuals wouldn't give credit where credit is due.

**bbexpert** · 09-07-2011, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by xpin2winx

he didnt have to **** a grapefruit to survive, he could of chose a different path

On a serious note I would be intrested to know how 'fruitfull' excuse the pun, that previous business venture was, would it really make more money than personal training for example? My brother charges 80-100 per hour here, I doubt he could make more money if he opened a 'special web site'

No disrespect meant, this is real life and times are hard, I just wonder why Kai could not have done a)PT b)Art Teacher c)Dance instructor (The guys a world class dancer)

**bbexpert** · 09-07-2011, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by DPNZ

If I could give you some advice FullROM:

Don't use a cropped version of your previous avatar for this account.
Change your signature, it's too similar to your previous one.

Oh and "Nut-hugger" doesn't have two T's.

Originally Posted by DavisForman

And in enters FullROM ^^^

Guys I am sure FullROM is lurking here, I have MAD respect for the guy, infact I would go as far to say I am a fan of FullROM, I stole part of his old Avatar image and cropped it so he would nt notice, please do not tell him of I may get in trouble for a breach of IP rights.

**bbexpert** · 09-07-2011, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sherloc

I think people are kai "nuthuggers" because a large part of the haters don't like Kai for reasons other than his physique and it irritates the crap out of them that these individuals wouldn't give credit where credit is due.

The only thing I find anoying about Kai is his hair, in real life its fine but for bodybuilding its a bit distracting IMO, its not hate towards his hair in real life which actually suits him BUT in bodybuilding I do not know how the hell he pulls off those head stands with the hair on top, Kai must have one of the worlds strongest necks.

**tumtum** · 09-07-2011, 05:43 PM

i'd fuk a grapefruit for those legs and lower lat inserts... i'd fuk it good... damn good

**littlearm** · 09-07-2011, 05:59 PM

Yes, it is OK for you not to like Kai for those reasons.

As long as it is OK for us not to like you for being so narrow-minded.

**Champion651** · 09-07-2011, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by xpin2winx

he didnt have to **** a grapefruit to survive, he could of chose a different path

this!!

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