i just had my first attempts at the dip bar today and it was definitely a nice way to spice up my tired old routine. dips are the bees knees!
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Thread: All hail the mighty dip!
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10-10-2011, 11:22 PM #31
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10-29-2011, 06:04 AM #32
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10-30-2011, 09:52 AM #33
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10-31-2011, 07:45 PM #34
So the ultimate answer is you decide.
But here is some food for thought:
-Your shoulders are active in dips but I wouldn't say they are being hit directly (or specifically targeted). It's much more of a Chest or Tri movement depending on how you position your body.
-Any heavy press movement is going to activate both Tris and Pecs so the idea of isolating either or is more of a myth IMHO.
-I would say Chest day because, as a compound movement all pressing muscles are activated, and there are plenty of isolation/concentration exercises specifically targeting Triceps.
Whatever your decision is, tell me how it goes.fui quod es, eris quod sum
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10-31-2011, 07:59 PM #35
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11-02-2011, 04:05 PM #36
I love me some dips!
Just wondering 1 thing tough.. my brother tells me that when you're leaning more forward, you're hitting your pecs more then your triceps?
Been trying this and I noticed a difference indeed.. The more I keep my body straight when going down (and up) the harder I'm feeling that my tri's are being hit.
And the way with leaning forward definitely targeted my pecs!
Just wanted to share this with you guys !**Dutch Gardening Crew**
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Squat: 385
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fk that..
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11-05-2011, 01:12 PM #37
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11-05-2011, 04:18 PM #38
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11-05-2011, 09:25 PM #39
Yes hands are backwards but dont think of it as dangerous it may look. hands should solidly rest on top of bar not on the sides...
to a degree you are right, change the angle of attack and change the outcome!
Ive got an idea but im not and internet diagnostician so ill just say at 16 take it slowly/easily and you'll be fine. Keep your press as natural and smooth as possible it should never be jerky or awkward feeling.
You need to find that sweet spot for your arms to rest where your shoulders can move freely without impingement. Since you are new to it I'd say be sequential. How much can you overhead press/Military press? Do you have a V shaped Dip bar available to you?fui quod es, eris quod sum
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11-05-2011, 10:08 PM #40
Must be a tall guy thing, I've always tried dips but after a set of 10 reps my shoulders are clicking and doing nasty stuff. I find that if I halve the ROM but squeeze my chest and tris for 2 - 3 seconds at the bottom of a half ROM I can complete my sets without shoulder pain.
Might be worth a shot for you gigantors out there.
Excellent detail in this article!WATCBC
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11-06-2011, 03:21 PM #41
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11-14-2011, 10:25 AM #45
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11-14-2011, 10:56 AM #46
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11-14-2011, 09:11 PM #47
Like I said its not a universal thing but working on shoulder flexibility/strength/hand placement should help. Half range of motion isn't really worth your time and you will bay far and away benefit from the full ROM. But like many people on here raging over ATG squats and perfect form, I too will be the "Form Nazi" and highly encourage you to work in full ROM but book-ended with, do so safely and make sure you are moving through all ROM smoothly and without undue stress.
I dont know your (Maxwell & Nosferatu) programs but think about the other presses that you may be missing in your program. Is your program well rounded?
You could do that... most gym belts IME suck and don't support much weight comfortably.
This is mine:
It's an old climbing harness and comfortably holds 200+ lbs, but since i don't think you all have old harnesses lying around Id suggest stopping in to local outdoors store or hardware store and buy a few feet of 2" webbing, a cheap carabiner, and another few feet of 1/4" webbing and for inside $10 you have a sturdy, durable, cheap, and packable dip & chin belt.
The 2" Webbing will hug your hips without cutting into you.
The biner is for looping the 1/4" webbing which will hold plates, chains, or DB whatever you have.
BOOM!
To the rest, thanks for the positive comments and Dip Love!fui quod es, eris quod sum
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11-24-2011, 07:59 PM #48
I agree that full ROM would be more beneficial, however, I know my body and I know what works for me (different folks, different strokes). I'm currently doing the Kris Gethin Hardcore Challange, and doing crossfit / P90X or Intensity on rest days. I like to think that its pretty rounded.
Excellent advice on the dip belt! I use them more for heaves, but it's now time for me to go shopping!WATCBC
*What's All This Crew Bullsh!t Crew*
People are stupid and that makes me cry - Sheldon Cooper
- All that evil needs to prevail, is for good men to do nothing -
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11-26-2011, 06:02 AM #49
Agreed. Dips are one of my favorites, but definitely important to watch your form to make sure you aren't tweaking your shoulders - especially on the bottom portion by dipping too low. The key for me has been as others have mentioned to do them at a slow cadence. Something near 4 seconds on the negative and 2 on the positive.
In the past I did a lot of negatives only on the dips with the help of a much larger lifting partner. This worked well in quickly increasing my strength, but in such a scenario it is even more important to be extra careful on form and ROM.
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11-27-2011, 12:13 PM #50
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12-06-2011, 04:16 PM #52
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Recently discovered the dip. loving it. I can't bench press near as much as I'd like because of an unfortunate bonespur in my thumb joint, but dips don't stress this joint like bench does. get dem pecs, chicks dig it.
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