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    Feeling Ill on Keto Diet?

    Hi

    I've been on Keto Diet (CKD) for 4 days now and feel dreadful. Since starting I've felt bloated, tired, bad nausea, headache and just generally pretty awful.

    Is this normal? If so how long does the nausea and lethagy last for? I was told 4 days max and this is my 4th day and if anything I feel worse, plus I haven't lost any weight (put on 1lb!).

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    It's been 4 days.

    At this point, any significant drop on the scale would be water weight at most.

    Anytime you drastically change your eating there is going to be a period of adjustment in which you body is going "why the **** did you mess with ****???". Getting into ketosis for the first time is no exception.

    If it's really that bad just eat some damn carbos.
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    I generally feel like 100% crap the first few days after keto-diet initiation, then improve to only 50% crappy after that. Some people say they feel awesome on keto, but I sure never have.

    Hence I consider about 80g carbs/day as low as I'll go anymore.
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    Keto is stupid.

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    First week can suck, headache, foggy feeling. A Diet Coke usually gets me past that, and once week 2 hits I feel awesome. I suggest at least 2 weeks of minimal carbs (greens and other fiber only) before even attempting a carb up.
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    Originally Posted by Porscheboy View Post
    Hi

    I've been on Keto Diet (CKD) for 4 days now and feel dreadful. Since starting I've felt bloated, tired, bad nausea, headache and just generally pretty awful.

    Is this normal? If so how long does the nausea and lethagy last for? I was told 4 days max and this is my 4th day and if anything I feel worse, plus I haven't lost any weight (put on 1lb!).

    Cheers guys
    Is there a reason why you chose keto on a traditional reduced calorie diet? keto offers no metabolic advantage over standard diets.
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    Originally Posted by TelusLob View Post
    Is there a reason why you chose keto on a traditional reduced calorie diet? keto offers no metabolic advantage over standard diets.
    either he is dumb and dont understand calories in verse calories out and thinks ketos magic OR he wants to be fuller.
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    I was told by nutritionists that keto diets are straight up poisonous for the body. I think the illness you are experiencing makes perfect sense. Your kidneys and liver are getting their @$$es kicked right now.
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    Originally Posted by jon1995 View Post
    either he is dumb and dont understand calories in verse calories out and thinks ketos magic OR he wants to be fuller.
    No one knows OP stats, but isn't ketogenic diet supposed to be more muscle sparing? Also, if one is on a pretty large calorie deficit it can be difficult to eat smaller portions and still hit your protein macro.
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    Originally Posted by Porscheboy View Post
    Hi

    I've been on Keto Diet (CKD) for 4 days now and feel dreadful. Since starting I've felt bloated, tired, bad nausea, headache and just generally pretty awful.

    Is this normal? If so how long does the nausea and lethagy last for? I was told 4 days max and this is my 4th day and if anything I feel worse, plus I haven't lost any weight (put on 1lb!).

    Cheers guys
    Keto offers no fat loss benefit that a calorie controlled diet doesn't offer. Unless you enjoy keto simply don't do it. Some people don't function well in Ketosis.
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    Originally Posted by NippleChafeBrah View Post
    No one knows OP stats, but isn't ketogenic diet supposed to be more muscle sparing? Also, if one is on a pretty large calorie deficit it can be difficult to eat smaller portions and still hit your protein macro.
    Carbohydrates are protein sparring so no keto does not spare muscle, in fact its quite the opposite.

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    Thanks for replies. I plateaued on my usual diet for almost 4 months. Currently 155lbs 5ft 7 with 17% BF. I've been down as low as 144lbs but still BF remained at 17% which I presume was a result of to few calories and loss of lean muscle. Keto was suggested by a friend who uses Keto to cut down for competition and hold on to muscle mass. He believes it's the best method of cutting and maintaining.
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    Originally Posted by Porscheboy View Post
    Thanks for replies. I plateaued on my usual diet for almost 4 months. Currently 155lbs 5ft 7 with 17% BF. I've been down as low as 144lbs but still BF remained at 17% which I presume was a result of to few calories and loss of lean muscle. Keto was suggested by a friend who uses Keto to cut down for competition and hold on to muscle mass. He believes it's the best method of cutting and maintaining.
    Some people do really well on keto and for competition it has the added advantage of drying you out. (Dehydrating you) From a pure fat loss perspective it adds no benefit over calorie control. What method are you using to measure your body fat?
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    Originally Posted by NippleChafeBrah View Post
    No one knows OP stats, but isn't ketogenic diet supposed to be more muscle sparing? Also, if one is on a pretty large calorie deficit it can be difficult to eat smaller portions and still hit your protein macro.
    yes it is muscle sparing...but usually you don't have as much energy to train with high intensity although some people feel better. Training intensity is also muscle sparing along with the ability to keep the weights heavy as possibly.
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    Here is an excellent read regarding carbohydrate requirements for strength aesthetes. He speaks to the muscle sparing qualities of dietary carbohydrates as well as gives some minimum recommendations.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...-you-need.html
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    Some people just don't do well on keto diets. I for one don't. I never have any energy for workouts and feel like utter crap all day. I have to have at least 100g of carbs daily or I feel terrible. 100 grams is still low enough that the fat comes off quickly. But 4 days isn't very long. Maybe give it a week or so.
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    Originally Posted by Electricheadd View Post
    Here is an excellent read regarding carbohydrate requirements for strength aesthetes. He speaks to the muscle sparing qualities of dietary carbohydrates as well as gives some minimum recommendations.

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    i believe wonderpug gave an article showing fat is actually more muscle sparing i cant find it though
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    You're probably having sugar withdrawal. Also, are you drinking enough water? Keto diets are very dehydrating and require you drink more water. Dehydration could account for some of those symptoms as well.
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    BF is being tested by bioelectrical impedance analysis. I was tested by the strength and conditioning coach of our national rugby team so should be pretty accurate. Just can't seem to get diet right to get below 17% so trying Keto out of frustration more than anything else! I know I'm only very early in but don't think it suits me, not even enough energy to get to the gym today! Think I'll be having se
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    You're probably having sugar withdrawal. Also, are you drinking enough water? Keto diets are very dehydrating and require you drink more water. Dehydration could account for some of those symptoms as well.
    My carb intake prior to starting was low, very little refined carb so I don't think sugar withdrawal is an issue
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    Originally Posted by jon1995 View Post
    i believe wonderpug gave an article showing fat is actually more muscle sparing i cant find it though
    I would not recommend a low fat diet to my worst enemy. I am guessing he was showing the hormonal and vitamin issues that come with low fat diets. IMHO when I cut, the deficit comes from carbs since cutting fat/protein is not an option. You can easily avoid ketosis and keep a sizable deficit while eating all 3 macro nutrient minimums.
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    Stick with it! The first week was horrid for me. I am now 10 days in and loving it.
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    I did it for three weeks.

    The first week, I felt God awful, absolutely terrible headaches, felt constantly dehydrated (drank a lot too) and often a little down/depressed (I put that down to sugar withdrawal).

    The second week, I felt energetic, lively and alert. However, I tended to crash at around 5pm most nights, needing a meal.

    The third week, I felt normal. Towards the end though, I started to feel bad. I was glad I got through it though, it was an experience.

    Never again. Not worth the feeling of warmed up death.
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    You're probably having sugar withdrawal. Also, are you drinking enough water? Keto diets are very dehydrating and require you drink more water. Dehydration could account for some of those symptoms as well.

    Excellent pointˇ!!!!!!ˇ
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    I love keto simply because the food types suit my eastern european culture better then oats/broccoli/ chicken breast,
    feeling full for longer, using fat stores as energy, and improved focus.

    Also i find it impossible to cheat on keto (for me anyways) as in on a normal carb diet, i have the mentality that a bit of carb from a suger source is okay, then it turns into a binge, on keto its almost like have a mini voice in your head that says dont break ketosis! (but this benefit is unique to me and probably useless to others)

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