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    Non-Stim Pre-Workout Suggestions.

    Hey folks,

    Currently going through a phase where I'm trying to cut out all stimulants. I was taking TOO many, and am currently just trying to eliminate them for a while, to see how I feel. The only thing I presently take, that has a stimulant, is Jack3d. Just wondering what I can take as a pre-workout, that doesn't have any caffeine in it? Would I be better off just throwing together a mix of like a B-6, B-12, and some amino's? If so..which amino's are ideal? OR, do they already sell a pre-workout that's stimulant-free? I appreciate any assistance folks may be able to offer!
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    My list, in order of my preference:

    Hemavol Powder
    PumpBol
    Ultima
    MAN Body Octane
    ^all are very, very good choices.

    Also want to try Clout. Agmatine solo is good for stim-free pre-workout pumps as well.
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    Originally Posted by ajerone View Post
    My list, in order of my preference:

    Hemavol Powder
    PumpBol
    Ultima
    MAN Body Octane
    ^all are very, very good choices.

    Also want to try Clout. Agmatine solo is good for stim-free pre-workout pumps as well.
    Tyvm for taking the time to read, and respond. Greatly appreciated!!
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    Originally Posted by ajerone View Post
    My list, in order of my preference:

    Hemavol Powder
    PumpBol
    Ultima
    MAN Body Octane
    ^all are very, very good choices.

    Also want to try Clout. Agmatine solo is good for stim-free pre-workout pumps as well.
    ^^^
    Solid choices. I personally use BO+ add other ingredients
    Such much Placebo in here.
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    I like pumpbol. I haven't tried any others so yea.
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    Originally Posted by fish4thewin View Post
    I like pumpbol. I haven't tried any others so yea.
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    Originally Posted by Siafu4Life View Post
    Hey folks,

    Currently going through a phase where I'm trying to cut out all stimulants. I was taking TOO many, and am currently just trying to eliminate them for a while, to see how I feel. The only thing I presently take, that has a stimulant, is Jack3d. Just wondering what I can take as a pre-workout, that doesn't have any caffeine in it? Would I be better off just throwing together a mix of like a B-6, B-12, and some amino's? If so..which amino's are ideal? OR, do they already sell a pre-workout that's stimulant-free? I appreciate any assistance folks may be able to offer!
    I've used pump-bol and Ultima with solid results. Pump-Bol tastes like f'ing Tang. I love it. Ultima tastes like a flat mountain dew.

    I want to try Hemavol and Man body octane next. I'm also anxiously waiting for the caffeine free Focus XT and stack it with
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    Originally Posted by ajerone View Post
    My list, in order of my preference:

    Hemavol Powder
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    Ultima
    MAN Body Octane
    ^all are very, very good choices.

    Also want to try Clout. Agmatine solo is good for stim-free pre-workout pumps as well.
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    Originally Posted by Siafu4Life View Post
    Just wondering what I can take as a pre-workout, that doesn't have any caffeine in it? do they already sell a pre-workout that's stimulant-free? I appreciate any assistance folks may be able to offer!
    BodyForge and Ultima are 2 of my favorite stim-free products.
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    Originally Posted by Siafu4Life View Post
    Hey folks,

    Currently going through a phase where I'm trying to cut out all stimulants. I was taking TOO many, and am currently just trying to eliminate them for a while, to see how I feel. The only thing I presently take, that has a stimulant, is Jack3d. Just wondering what I can take as a pre-workout, that doesn't have any caffeine in it? Would I be better off just throwing together a mix of like a B-6, B-12, and some amino's? If so..which amino's are ideal? OR, do they already sell a pre-workout that's stimulant-free? I appreciate any assistance folks may be able to offer!
    Try PSN Power Shot preworkout drink (Mark Philippi - strongman). It's stim free.
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    Superpump Max has caffeine and oxytopis in it. Oxytropis is a new stim. I feel that I don't get used to the stims in it b/c of the Oxytropis. It works everytime and this is coming from someone who was over 500mgs of caffeine per day. Plus there is a ton of recovery nutrition in it. You don't need a non-stim pre with this formula. You can have the best of both worlds in a way i.e. take MAX with stims and not get used to it. Also, it will get you off heavy doses of caffeine which is what a lot of pre's have. Plus 1,3dimeth i didn't like. It's not in MAX.
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    Superpump Max has caffeine and oxytopis in it. Oxytropis is a new stim. I feel that I don't get used to the stims in it b/c of the Oxytropis. It works everytime and this is coming from someone who was over 500mgs of caffeine per day. Plus there is a ton of recovery nutrition in it. You don't need a non-stim pre with this formula. You can have the best of both worlds in a way i.e. take MAX with stims and not get used to it. Also, it will get you off heavy doses of caffeine which is what a lot of pre's have. Plus 1,3dimeth i didn't like. It's not in MAX.


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    Lube, he does not want caffeine.
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    I get your point. Just sucks not having caffeine as an ergogenic aide.
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    I've only had pump-bol and liked it a lot, it's a great product. The taste was strong, it made my mouth water. Ultima is on my list to try next.
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    I was hooked on jack3d for a while and it made me crash so bad. Ultima I hear is good non-stim, but ANimal rage doesn't make me crash because it has the extended energy as well and I get mad focused.
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    Concentrates seems to be a major reason people go to non-stim pre's in general. It's ashame that's the case b/c not all pre's will cause stim tolerance. Also, has to do with abuse of the supplement in some cases. Caffeine is an ergogenic aid. It's stimulant effects help increase endurance. It's also been proven to increase reaction times. It's one of the best ergogenic stims out there. But it has constrictive properties at high doses. On the other hand it promotes vasodilation at lower doses.

    A product like Animal Rage seems high in caffeine in one way but it's a time release. It's been perfected in the blend. Plus there are many other ingredients that contribute to the in-the-zone feeling one gets from using the product.

    Even the New White Flood is properly formulated with caffeine at a specific dose. It's hard to become stim tolerant if that's all your caffeine intake for the day.

    Both products taper off almost unnoticeably.

    Superpump Max doesn't seem to have a high dose of caffeine. Just enough. Oxytropis Falcate a new stimulant herb - i don't get a stim tolerance to at all.
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    BodyForge and Ultima are 2 of my favorite stim-free products.
    +2 for Bodyforge and Ultima...both deliver some awesome pumps and muscle endurance. I would also recommend mesomorph, up there as one of the best non-stims I've tried to go with Bodyforge / ultima
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