Testosterone: It's on the decline, let's save ours (serious)

[Leonydus]

fuuuuk i work in a factory that makes plastic wrap products, does that have bpa?

[HerpsNAO]

I agree with kratos, although I understand your point mustang. We don't need to run after elephants anymore but as men we should still have the ability to do so, hormonally. If you check out the documentaries I posted in the OP you'd see that boys are being born with descended testicles, penis disorders, etc. that was virtually unheard of in the past.

You mean undescended? They are supposed to be descended at birth lol

@leonydus, yeah if you're making plastic wrap most likely you are being exposed to BPA. Unless you work for ziploc or Saran (Those companies stated their product is BPA free)

[chaunce54]

DIM is also an anti-androgen. I have not seen any men report normal anti-androgen symptoms with it like Propecia victims, but still just be aware.

Obviously environmental toxins/chemicals/xeno-estorgens as well as a **** diet and major unatural stressors are a huge player in lower testosterone levels along with many other things.

But do not discount the fact that today more than ever humans do not need high testosterone to survive. We not longer need to fight for ourselves/families, we no longer need to be strong and durable for our (manual) jobs, we no longer need to look like an alpha male in order to score a chick, etc. Basically it is not as big of a factor in "natural selection" anymore.

That could all change in the blink of an eye if there happened to be some type of apocalyptic event.

[jr gong]

You mean undescended? They are supposed to be descended at birth lol

Yes, sorry, that was a typo.

[comeatmecuzz]

Should be sticky.. Will start taking DIM tomorrow..

^

this xINFINITE

[reyes12]

yea basically

alright cool, cause I havent been eating many of them veggies lately. I just bought a solid multi Men's Life Force multiple by Source Naturals(recommended from the multivitamin thread) That I want to supplement with a greens meats and potatoes with fruits too.

[D-1Gladiator74]

or instead of buying a bunch of using vitamins you can just use 100mg of 7,8-Benzoflavone

[HerpsNAO]

TO EVERYONE ITT:

Instead of buying more expensive glass containers for your food, use plastic "gladware" the company stated they are bpa free

[sproles134]

or instead of buying a bunch of using vitamins you can just use 100mg of 7,8-Benzoflavone

lol...brb consuming a known carcinogen.

[LoweRider]

save your test... USE STEROIDS!! lol

[reynaldooo]

Am watching. am aware. brb, glass stone products only.

[Rdez]

But the thing is, Boys&Men are actually being HURT by this. Mental defects, physical defects, this has been documented in animals too, as they exposed the animals to the chemicals that we surround ourselves with, the male animals started dying off or becoming feminized. High testosterone levels don't just make you a big tough brute, they make you a MALE.

Our testosterone levels are dropping because of the chemicals that we unknowingly poison ourselves with, not because we don't need it anymore.

Exactly.

We're slowly destroying ourselves. Look at all the big increases in people trying to use fertility drugs and medical techniques to conceive a baby. All the chemicals are interfering with the development of male gonads and sexual fertility.

Men are being feminized. Look at the females 'ideal' man from like 30 or 40 years ago - big rugged dudes, strong masculine features.
Now look at what the ideal is - skinny pretty-boy faced men with feminized features.

[WAITINGTO]

SUM UP THREAD:
takes ZMA and multi vitamin

OP still a *******

as for all people saying in the past women preferred rugged men

a. women still like rugged looking men
b. there wasn't that much of a difference in men 30-40 years ago except they had more power - maybe this is the problem
c. I didn't realise you were alive 30-40 years to conduct an empirical study on metrosexual preferences of women

[jr gong]

or instead of buying a bunch of using vitamins you can just use 100mg of 7,8-Benzoflavone

lol...brb consuming a known carcinogen.

This. The first few links that popped up when I looked that compound up where stating it's carcinogenic. No thanks. The vitamins and minerals I mentioned have more benefits than just helping raise your Testosterone levels, anyway.

[D-1Gladiator74]

This. The first few links that popped up when I looked that compound up where stating it's carcinogenic. No thanks. The vitamins and minerals I mentioned have more benefits than just helping raise your Testosterone levels, anyway.

lol...brb consuming a known carcinogen.

sigh.......... /facepalm

http://www.primordialperformance.com...cinogenic.html

[Jelet]

i drink a gallon of water a day. wtf/where do i buy glass gallons? or something thats not plastic... wtf...


where do i buy water that doesnt come in plastic?/

[Troll_Patrol]

intredasting, would like to hear from some brahs who start using it. i know i use a lot of plastic containers to store food in our house, and a lot of **** now a days is stored in some sort of plastic when you buy it.

[Jelet]

There are no stores that sell water in non plastic containers.so wtf do i do???????????? buy water online? biggest joke... esp when i drink a gallon of day.


fk it, i will continue to drink water from a plastic container.

[Diab0lic]

brb

[mfitty9000]

also getting lean improves your test/estro balance. stay low bodyfat.

i hope the plastics thing is overblown. unless plastic is heated with water in it to near melting point I dont see how it significantly releases enough estrogen to do damage. but I agree all this processed food bullsh*t and hormonally fuked up animals living in 1'x1' cubes living in their own sh*t chained to a pole and injected with hormones is fuking our world up.

government clearly doesnt give a fukc about its people its all about money and efficiently feeding people (ie: $$$$$). get as far away from the mass production chain as possible. problem with water is we're incredibly reliant on the government now, people would sh*t bricks if their water was cut off and they had to move to the woods to aquire their own.

i hope the plastics thing is a bit overblown because I drink tons of water throuhg plastic. I honestly dont see cycling as that bad and plan on doing it soon, just very responsibly, maybe one good bike ride a year, well researched from low bodyfat.



and yeah, get dem dere zinc, iron, magnesium, vitamin A&D, etc.

[comeatmecuzz]

holy sht im getting a tad paranoid lol, almost all my food is stored in plastic FFFUAARKKK

[reynaldooo]

i drink a gallon of water a day. wtf/where do i buy glass gallons? or something thats not plastic... wtf...


where do i buy water that doesnt come in plastic?/

all you gotta do is buy BPA free shyt. google it, use it. most food-grade plastic containers are legit, they dont release chemicals into the food. FDA fixed that shyt years back

[SELCOUTH]

Been taking these vits and minerals for over a year now, pretty high dosages but havent had any problems...yet.


Vitamin C 2000mg
Vitamin D 10,000 i.u
Vitamin B-100 Complex
Vitamin E 1000 i.u
Cod Liver Oil 1000mg
Zinc 25mg
Calcium & Magnesium 500mg


If you are taking Zinc make sure is Zinc Picolinate, apparently your body absorbes it better than Zinc Gluconate.

[mfitty9000]

also lets take their advice for a second

- stay low bodyfat
- eat 1g/protein per lb of bodyweight
- by their definition eat 2g carbs per lb/bodyweight to maintain 2:1 balance
- eat high fat (sketchy definition)

take a lean 180lb 5'10 male. he eats 180g protein or 720 cals from protein. Then he eats 360g carbs or 1440 cals from carbs. Thats 2160 now you also need to eat "high fat" but depending on your maintenance you might not have much to play with. So I think its always a good idea to do some sprints/cardio to burn off some fat even on "maintenance". I think thats all a good balance of calories, eat about 3000-3200 but burn a bit off each week. Plus it will be good for your heart, good for bloodflow, should help erection strength. I think all alpha male warriors from the past always ate over maintenance and did cardio.

I wonder if studies have been done on hormones for 2 types of groups. 1 eating over maintenance then doing cardio to bring them back down to maintenance for the week. The other simply eating maintenance and doing no cardio. I'd think the group doing cardio is better off.

[tauqs]

alright cool, cause I havent been eating many of them veggies lately. I just bought a solid multi Men's Life Force multiple by Source Naturals(recommended from the multivitamin thread) That I want to supplement with a greens meats and potatoes with fruits too.

you liking that multi brah? i started on that about 2 weeks ago feels good man.

[iStinkFist]

It's all a global conspiracy to make men less aggressive for when they eventually take over the world. (maybe srs?)

[reynaldooo]

It's all a global conspiracy to make men less aggressive for when they eventually take over the world. (maybe srs?)

this. BPA has been out for at least 50 years and they have just found this shyt out in the last couple years?

[Dugey1]

BPA free for life...in great thread repd brah

[DiogoPT]

brb celltech and DIM (not srs)

great thread OP and scary as fck

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[romapwr88]

this. BPA has been out for at least 50 years and they have just found this shyt out in the last couple years?

Doubt they JUST found this out, its just that its becoming more public lately