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    Best legal pro hormone/test booster

    im looking to start a pro hormone or a test booster. I'm not sure what the best on the market is for the money. Has anyone tried any or heard of any? Any suggestions?
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    Well which is it? Test boosters for the most part are a waste of money. As far as PH's go only use them if you do not have a source for AAS, the side effects are worse than AAS and the gains aren't as good. But since your asking, you should start off with H-drol since it's a weaker PH which is better for you because I'm assuming your natural.
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    Originally Posted by NJTeenBeast View Post
    Well which is it? Test boosters for the most part are a waste of money. As far as PH's go only use them if you do not have a source for AAS, the side effects are worse than AAS and the gains aren't as good. But since your asking, you should start off with H-drol since it's a weaker PH which is better for you because I'm assuming your natural.
    yes I'm natty. When you say aas, what are you referring to? I've been reading a lot on d-asparic acid (if that's how you spell it).
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    Originally Posted by jdarling44 View Post
    yes I'm natty. When you say aas, what are you referring to? I've been reading a lot on d-asparic acid (if that's how you spell it).
    AAS stands for anabolic-androgen steroids, bodybuilding.com doesn't like the word steroids being thrown around a lot, so AAS is a safe term to use.

    And I've heard claims that almost sound ridiculous for d-aspartic acid (from sales reps of course), for example a 33% increase in test. It's also pretty expensive especially for having only a few studies done on it in any species.
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    Originally Posted by NJTeenBeast View Post
    Well which is it? Test boosters for the most part are a waste of money. As far as PH's go only use them if you do not have a source for AAS, the side effects are worse than AAS and the gains aren't as good. But since your asking, you should start off with H-drol since it's a weaker PH which is better for you because I'm assuming your natural.
    Test boosters are far from a waste of money, if you look at this scientific study at longjack for example on humans you can observe significant ergogenic effects.

    THE ERGOGENIC EFFECTS OF EURYCOMA
    LONGIFOLIA JACK: A PILOT STUDY
    S. Hamzah, A. Yusof. Department of Exercise Physiology, Sports Centre,
    University of Malaya, 50603 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

    Eurycoma longifolia Jack (ELJ), which contains quassinoids such as
    eurycomalacton, eurycomanon, and eurycomanol, has been reported
    to have aphrodisiac properties and to increase testosterone levels in
    men.1

    Previous studies have established that the testosterone
    supplementation increases fat free mass, muscle strength, and muscle
    mass, which are important for physical function and athletic perform-
    ance.2,3

    Thus, the objective of this study was to investigate the effect of
    the increase in testosterone levels, obtained by administration of ELJ,
    on body composition and muscle strength and size in man. Fourteen
    healthy men performed an intense strength training programme with
    initial load of 60% RM (2 sets of 10 repetitions with 1 minute rest
    between, for 10 stations) on alternate days for five weeks. Simultane-
    ously, seven men were randomly selected to consume 100 mg/day
    ELJ water soluble extract, and seven men received placebo. The inten-
    sity of the exercise was increased by 10% RM/week. Body composi-
    tion, arm circumference, one repetition maximum (1 RM), and surface
    electromyography (sEMG) activity were measured and recorded one
    day before and after the five weeks of supplementation and interven-
    tion. The lean body mass of the treatment group showed a significant
    increment, from 52.26 (7.18) kg to 54.39 (7.43) kg (p = 0.012), but
    no significant changes in fat free mass were observed in the placebo
    group. Percentage body fat was significantly decreased in the
    treatment and placebo group, from 31.30 (5.48)% to 28.44 (6.43)%
    (p = 0.01) and from 22.83 (2.43)% to 21.33 (2.35)% (p = 0.001)
    respectively. The 1RM test showed a significant increase from 73.71
    (16.63) to 78.71 (17.0) kg (p = 0.006) in the treatment group and
    from 77.29 (8.9) to 79.43 (8.8) kg (p = 0.011) in the placebo group.
    The increase in strength in the treatment group was larger than in the
    placebo group (6.78% and 2.77% respectively). The mean frequency
    of sEMG on the biceps in the treatment and placebo groups
    decreased significantly, from 121.77 (40.0) to 90.47 (64.6) ?V (p =
    0.012) and from 127.95 (30.9) to 98.8 (50.1) ?V (p = 0.036)
    respectively. The treatment produced 2.92% greater reduction in elec-
    trical activity of the muscle measured at the end of the experiment
    compared with placebo. The mean arm circumference of the treatment
    group increased significantly by 1.8 cm after the supplementation,
    from 30.87 (1.88) to 32.67 (1.96) cm (p = 0.011), but there was no
    significant increase in the placebo group. The results suggest that
    water soluble extract of Eurycoma longifolia Jack increased fat free
    mass, reduced body fat, and increased muscle strength and size.
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    Originally Posted by jdarling44 View Post
    yes I'm natty. When you say aas, what are you referring to? I've been reading a lot on d-asparic acid (if that's how you spell it).
    Pro-hormones are steroids...by the sound of things stay away, especially if you prefer to stay natural.

    DAA is good, personally I would prefer Testforce 2 by Epharm. Also, Tbol is good of course, but Im a little biased. Bioforge v3 or MAX is good as well as Myotest by SAN.
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    Originally Posted by NJTeenBeast View Post
    AAS stands for anabolic-androgen steroids, bodybuilding.com doesn't like the word steroids being thrown around a lot, so AAS is a safe term to use.

    And I've heard claims that almost sound ridiculous for d-aspartic acid (from sales reps of course), for example a 33% increase in test. It's also pretty expensive especially for having only a few studies done on it in any species.
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    Never saw that long jack study, maybe i'll use it again @ that 100mg/day dose.. what products contain the water soluble extract used in the study?
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    Originally Posted by NJTeenBeast View Post
    But since your asking, you should start off with H-drol since it's a weaker PH which is better for you because I'm assuming your natural.
    HDrol is neither a PH nor weak. HDrol is a directly active steroid, not a PH. It's also much stronger the DBol, especially when you consider that HDrol delivers very dry lean gains and half of your gain on DBol are from water weight do to DBol's high rate of aromatization into estrogen.

    Originally Posted by KimJong-il View Post
    Pro-hormones are steroids...by the sound of things stay away, especially if you prefer to stay natural.

    DAA is good, personally I would prefer Testforce 2 by Epharm. Also, Tbol is good of course, but Im a little biased. Bioforge v3 or MAX is good as well as Myotest by SAN.
    PH are not steroids but they convert into steroids. There are some steroids marketed as PHs though. For instance XTren which truely is a PH (and is completely unrelated in any way to trenbolone, the real tren) is not active when ingested but is converted by the body into an active steroid. Conversely, as stated above, HDrol is directly active and does not need to be converted by the body to have an anabolic effect. Approx 5% of HDrol is converted by the body into Turinabol but that would mean for every 100mg of HDrol only 5mg is converted into Turinabol which isn't enough to have any anabolic effect on the body. But this does not make HDrol a PH simply because it converts. Testosterone is converted by the body into DHT, which is also a steroid, but again this does not make it a PH.
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    Ok, where here is where my confusion is, according to the NGA competitions I have competed in, many of them take legal test boosters and PH however state that some can cause failure of their drug testing policy. I am wanting to takethestringest stuff possible and still be able to compete in the NGA. I'm not opposed to not being completely natty when numerous natty guys take these ph and boosters as well. I'm just trying to figure out what my best bet is for getting good solid gains with little side effects and still being able to pass a drug test next summer when I compete again. This info is awesome, but I wanted to clarify a little more my needs and concerns.
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    Originally Posted by NJTeenBeast View Post
    Well which is it? Test boosters for the most part are a waste of money. As far as PH's go only use them if you do not have a source for AAS, the side effects are worse than AAS and the gains aren't as good. But since your asking, you should start off with H-drol since it's a weaker PH which is better for you because I'm assuming your natural.
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    while we are on this topic I am planning on taking (Torque)Superdrol, anyone ever take this product and if so how do you rate it as far as legal stuff goes ?

    as far as I know superdrol is not aas and should not violate the bb.com terms
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    Originally Posted by Coryh11 View Post
    while we are on this topic I am planning on taking (Torque)Superdrol, anyone ever take this product and if so how do you rate it as far as legal stuff goes ?

    as far as I know superdrol is not aas and should not violate the bb.com terms
    Well you are wrong. It is a PH and does violate the rules. There are plenty of forums to talk about his stuff, not sure why people insist on doing where they aren't supposed to. Just google prohormone forum.
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    It's funny to me that something that is such a huge part of bodybuilding would be banned from a site called "bodybuilding.com". Not to mention you can go to most supp shops and order this stuff, I can understand the site getting into legal issues if the product is "illegal" but I just can't understand legal products being hidden. We are all here to get bigger,stronger,faster whatever... if you want to take a dice roll and go with a ph or test booster that should be your choice to make.... I don't know just a rant of mine
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    You can get test boosters such as anabolic innovations test pro.. which is sold here and is ok to talk about there are also a few legal test products out there that are perfectly legal and can be used in personal manner of dude in gym or dude trying to compete.... THE PROBLEM IN COMEPETING IS WHEN you get tested and your test levels are to high for the standard if thats the case then YES you will be kickedl.. you take legal test products but still be kicked from competitions if your Test levels are out of whack!!!!
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    I was recently considering going down the PH road myself being that some of them ARE legal and easy to attain. Problem is, as I do more reseach on those ones that at least seem to be effective (H-Drol, super-Drol etc), you need a SERM for your PCT or you're going to screw yourself up (and possibly lose all your gains anyways). AND you need an RX to attain said SERM (at least in the US). Good luck getting your physician to perscribe you (a male) a fertility drug, LOL.

    With that said- PH's aren't exactly ALL legal considering the SERM part isn't. Looks like my skinny azz will just stick to milk and squats.
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    Guess it depends I can go to the same supp shop and get certain serms( I believe chronic was the recommended), guess it is all dependant on location.
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    Originally Posted by Coryh11 View Post
    Guess it depends I can go to the same supp shop and get certain serms( I believe chronic was the recommended), guess it is all dependant on location.
    Now take this with a grain of salt because I have only been reading up on this for a few months, but from what I gather- OTC SERMS are't suffice. You need crap like Clomid or Novadex (which is actually easily attained over the interwebz w/o an RX but that doesn't make it legal).
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    Wow. First off fellas superdrol is a steriod

    Second if ou trying to remain natty then just leave all of these test boosters and gray area hormones alone..
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    Originally Posted by Hansolo261 View Post
    Wow. First off fellas superdrol is a steriod

    Second if ou trying to remain natty then just leave all of these test boosters and gray area hormones alone..
    It's marketed as a PH and I believe you can still buy it that way. If it's a PH or not, I dunno....not much difference ne ways, IMO.
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    Originally Posted by NJTeenBeast View Post
    Well which is it? Test boosters for the most part are a waste of money. As far as PH's go only use them if you do not have a source for AAS, the side effects are worse than AAS and the gains aren't as good. But since your asking, you should start off with H-drol since it's a weaker PH which is better for you because I'm assuming your natural.
    Originally Posted by NJTeenBeast View Post
    AAS stands for anabolic-androgen steroids, bodybuilding.com doesn't like the word steroids being thrown around a lot, so AAS is a safe term to use.

    And I've heard claims that almost sound ridiculous for d-aspartic acid (from sales reps of course), for example a 33% increase in test. It's also pretty expensive especially for having only a few studies done on it in any species.
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    Thought the exact same thing, lol
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    Originally Posted by em-dubya View Post
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    Originally Posted by em-dubya View Post
    Best test booster available now~~DAA
    not sure I can force myself to drop <$20 on DAA brah...kiiiiiiiiiiiiinda pricey
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