best stim/non stim PWO combo

[Therickz]

Currently:

Thermolife Pump-Bol and SNS Focus XT, any other good combos?

[Therickz]

bump

[LouB2010]

Do a search for Ultima and see if there is any stacking suggestions w/a stimmed pre. Ultima is a favorite non-stim pre on this board. But I can't recall suggestions of stacking it w/a stimmed product. You might get lucky

Currently:

Thermolife Pump-Bol and SNS Focus XT, any other good combos?

[Bootuh]

While using stims-
White Flood + C-Bol

While cycling off stims-
Pump-bol

[Murderfox]

Body Octane and/or Clout. Both together is obviously superior but either of those provide notable improvements in endurance/strength.

[LouB2010]

Not a bad idea. I also prefer buying stacks from individual companies versus a product from one company and mixing it with another company's product. You know that mixing Octane and Clout is formualted for just that. This gets my vote!

Body Octane and/or Clout. Both together is obviously superior but either of those provide notable improvements in endurance/strength.

[-SDR-]

CryoShock - PreWorkout
BodyForge - PostWorkout and off days

IntraFuse - (optional) IntraWorkout

These are actually MADE to be taken like this so get you the ideal daily amounts of creatine, beta alanine, citrulline maleate, etc.. The stack also last about a month when taken as suggested. Stacking other brands mismatched products are most likely not going to give you these correct ratios and fail to give the same long term benefits.

GT Stack FTW!

[gwgtopshelf]

ultima + pump bol is awesome, try ultima + focus xt also if you want stims

[Anthony21]

Ice Plus + Vengeance

White Flood V2 + Hemavol (powdered version)

Agmatine + any stim preworkout

Ultima + Pumpbol

Animal Rage + Animal Pump

[KimJong-il]

Cordygen5 and Epharm AMP.

[quank]

CryoShock - PreWorkout
BodyForge - PostWorkout and off days

IntraFuse - (optional) IntraWorkout

x2, this is a great stack.

[dex26]

I've gotten huge and long lasting pumps + energy/endurance from SP max and Hemavol combo. Plus it tastes amazing.

1 scoop Hemavol + 1 scoop Sour Apple Max = #Winning

Hemavol alone is a great preworkout and does great things forme but combine it with SP max, it's even better.


Plus 1 scoop of MP Creatine in the PWO with Power Shock for my intra.

[lhockey]

ultima and lit-up... one scoop of each gives me the best workouts of any pre w/o that isn't loaded with stims... the DMAE and caffeine in lit-up synergize very well with the choline and B12 in ultima to give amazing focus and energy... give it a shot!

i'm actually trying to find a comparable pre for when i'm cycling off lit-up/ultima, but haven't found anything nearly as good yet. i'm thinking of giving the powdered hemavol or vengeance a shot.

great thread OP

[lhockey]

Cordygen5 and Epharm AMP.

what effects did you experience from cordygen and how did you dose it? i'm interested in giving it a shot

[mikaveli06]

what effects did you experience from cordygen and how did you dose it? i'm interested in giving it a shot

Ultima and heamvol was great non stimmed, for stimms I did same with focus xt and ec....and 3 caps piracetam also

Gonna try bcs labs amped phenom tommarrow, then phenom and hemavol after that

[KimJong-il]

what effects did you experience from cordygen and how did you dose it? i'm interested in giving it a shot

It wont be anything standout, but I felt my performance was enchanced. I was able to push a bit harder and longer. That extra 10% goes a long way in my opinion.

I think I dosed 3 caps 60 minutes prior to training. Ive also used the Cordygen V02 which has some interesting ingredients in it as well, some like either or...personally I enjoyed Cordygen5 better.

Effects build after a few days. MST makes some good products.

[aerocomp84]

Currently:

Thermolife Pump-Bol and SNS Focus XT, any other good combos?

Ephedrine and Lean Xtreme is the best stim and non-stim combo I have ever used. Besides helping me drop 7lbs over 4 weeks my cardio significantly improved.

[kalmartin]

Currently:

Thermolife Pump-Bol and SNS Focus XT, any other good combos?

Try Power Shot PreWorkout Drink by PSN Nutrition (Mark Philippi)

[mikaveli06]

Ultima and heamvol was great non stimmed, for stimms I did same with focus xt and ec....and 3 caps piracetam also

Gonna try bcs labs amped phenom tommarrow, then phenom and hemavol after that

I did try the phenom and hemavol, and it was everything i could of hoped for.

[OKPump]

CryoShock - PreWorkout
BodyForge - PostWorkout and off days

IntraFuse - (optional) IntraWorkout

These are actually MADE to be taken like this so get you the ideal daily amounts of creatine, beta alanine, citrulline maleate, etc.. The stack also last about a month when taken as suggested. Stacking other brands mismatched products are most likely not going to give you these correct ratios and fail to give the same long term benefits.

GT Stack FTW!

x2. Lately, I've been taking Cryoshock preworkout and mixing bodyforge and intrafuse together (tastes amazing mixed) and sipping on that during my workout.... the pump is crazy! I look forward to arm days just to see some veins pop! lol

[powercage]

WF + Hemavol, Clout, C-bol, SNS Agmatine, CL Green Bulge

[Trvscunningham]

Non stim - Ultima + Pump-Bol + Agmatine (I also take 2250mg Beta Alanine with it)
Stim - Ultima + WF + Pump-Bol + Agmatine or Ultima + Pump-Bol + Agmatine + Caffeine Tab.