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    If Satan punishes wrong-doers ... Doesn't that make him a good guy?

    see ive always wondered the opposite: if satan is evil and wants other people to be as well, then why wouldn't he make hell an incentive? like instead of flames and torture it should be a raging party with all the baddest people there railing coke and hookers
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    Originally Posted by sheWUMBO View Post
    see ive always wondered the opposite: if satan is evil and wants other people to be as well, then why wouldn't he make hell an incentive? like instead of flames and torture it should be a raging party with all the baddest people there railing coke and hookers
    b/c satan is into S&M ? tormenting souls giving him the thrill like Chris Matherw gets when he thinks of obama?
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    according to the mythology of the bible, hell was created by god as a place for torment for not only human souls, but satan as well. he isn't in hell presently, but on earth with the rest of us. a good example of this is the book of job.

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    The first and most vital bit of information is something that most Christians don’t know: Satan doesn’t rule hell. The reason they don’t know is because most of them don’t actually read the bible or pay attention to anyone that tries to teach them. Whether it’s in class or during a sermon, most folks tend to tune things out and just wait for the end. This causes a gap in knowledge. They tend to fill that gap with popular culture. According to the old testament (Essentially the entire book of Job) Satan resides right along with the rest of us here on planet Earth. You’ll also learn from various passages concerning hell that it’s a place meant for sinners and Satan’s disciples alike. Lucifer himself and the fallen angels will be tormented there beside human souls. This shows that Satan has more of a stake in the ultimate outcome of this game than what most Christians realize.
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    As another poster has actually pointed out, Satan doesn't rule hell or punish the wrongdoers. The bible states that he will be tortured in hell just like the rest of us non-believers and evil doers.

    The misconception that Satan rules Hell arises from Milton's Paradise Lost and the infamous quote where Lucifer says, "It is better to reign in hell than serve in heaven". Much of modern Christianity's mythology comes from middle age books like Paradise Lost and Dante's Divine Comedy.
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    Satan and Lucifer are two different characters.

    Also Satan can only harm a person if Yah allows it. Yah does so occasionally... for the lulz.
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    Originally Posted by makavelli1988 View Post
    As another poster has actually pointed out, Satan doesn't rule hell or punish the wrongdoers. The bible states that he will be tortured in hell just like the rest of us non-believers and evil doers.

    The misconception that Satan rules Hell arises from Milton's Paradise Lost and the infamous quote where Lucifer says, "It is better to reign in hell than serve in heaven". Much of modern Christianity's mythology comes from middle age books like Paradise Lost and Dante's Divine Comedy.
    so this means that god, who is actually jesus is the ruler and punisher of hell?
    "As sure as the world stands, you jf1 shall spend an eternity in Hell in eternal torment..."
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    god created hell to torture his human creations for eternity. and lucifer/fallen angels which are also his creations.

    he's that kinda guy
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    Originally Posted by sheWUMBO View Post
    see ive always wondered the opposite: if satan is evil and wants other people to be as well, then why wouldn't he make hell an incentive? like instead of flames and torture it should be a raging party with all the baddest people there railing coke and hookers
    Is a person who tortures bad people in real life a good guy? The answer is no. Same thing here. Of course this is all based on somebody as real as the tooth fairy, but hey.
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    Originally Posted by Stuffnblue View Post
    according to the mythology of the bible, hell was created by god as a place for torment for not only human souls, but satan as well. he isn't in hell presently, but on earth with the rest of us. a good example of this is the book of job.

    from an article on the subject:
    The conventional view of Satan comes from the poem Paradise Lost; in the Bible a case could be made that Satan works for God as per the book of Job, he's an adviser in the heavenly court that judges people according to God's law. Some also don't think the Satan in the book of Job is the Devil, same with the Serpent.
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    Originally Posted by jf1 View Post
    so this means that god, who is actually jesus is the ruler and punisher of hell?
    More disturbingly, because he is omniscient, he foresaw that Lucifer would be disobedient, would gain further superpowers and transform into the villain Satan and then lead billions upon billions of humans astray by tempting them. Because of this knowledge he created a hell to punish all of them. At the same time, this is all a part of his divine plan. Wait what? A merciful benevolent God who purposefully let events transpire so he has a reason to torture as many people as he can with fire? Apparently he loves us. They're not lying when they say there's a thin line between love and hate. God long jumped over that line if that's the case.

    I think the bible is probably one of the first comic books created. The hero God starts out as angry, a little beta,emo and insecure in his powers in the OT.....Then he discovers his cause and purpose in life (the salvation of mankind). Kinda like batman, he then puts on his new costume (flesh of man). BUT, his dastardly adversary, the supervillain Satan basically manages to get his minions to defeat this superhero, BUT, like in all good comics, all is not as it seems. This superhero will return stronger than ever from this defeat and save all the good guys from total annihilation, while destroying all the bad guys.

    The Quran is the alternate origins version of this comic book. Kinda like how you have Spiderman, and the Ultimate Spiderman comics.
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