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    Nov 8, 2012 (184 lbs)

    Dec Bench
    Warm-up
    232.5x5
    232.5x5
    232.5x5
    232.5x5

    Rows
    warm-up
    158x5
    158x5
    158x5
    158x5

    Squats
    135x5
    155x5
    175x5
    190x5
    205x5 PR
    The fifth rep on the 205 almost turned into a good morning, but the first four were solid! feelsgood.jpg
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    Nov 8, 2012 (184 lbs)

    Dec Bench
    Warm-up
    232.5x5
    232.5x5
    232.5x5
    232.5x5

    Rows
    warm-up
    158x5
    158x5
    158x5
    158x5

    Squats
    135x5
    155x5
    175x5
    190x5
    205x5 PR
    The fifth rep on the 205 almost turned into a good morning, but the first four were solid! feelsgood.jpg
    Strong work Mark! I'm impressed with how balanced your strength progression has been --- bench, rows, deads, OHPs and squats are all climbing steadily. And 184lbs now, so you're becoming a big boy now
    You're doing a great job of slow bulking and gaining strength
    Go on.........aim for 200lbs and see where you get on your lifts!
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    Congrats on another squat PR and that OHP is sick. Watching you progress so quick now has me chomping on the bit.

    I can't help but think your OHP would be easier with a slightly wider grip. It looks almost like you are working against yourself with how narrow it is.
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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Go on.........aim for 200lbs and see where you get on your lifts!
    Tempted. tempted.

    For those who complain about not gaining mass, you would think it obvious but the scale MUST move! I sometimes struggle getting enough calories, but I've supplemented with trail mix (nuts, raisins, and M&Ms) and butter pecan ice cream.

    My wife and I had dinner with some high school friends that we haven't seen in over 10 years, and both said that it was "obvious" that I work out (feelsgood.jpg)

    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    Watching you progress so quick now has me chomping on the bit.
    That knife cuts both ways. I'm mirin' the progress that you've made with that 245x5 squat!
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    Nov11, 2012 (183.5#)

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    137x5
    137x5
    137x5
    I realized after my first set that this should have been 136, but I figured to stay with it. Very heavy but doable.

    Squat (Light day)
    warm-ups
    160x5
    160x5

    Roman Chair Sit-ups
    BWx15
    BWx15
    BWx15

    I didn't realize that I forgot an exercise until I was copying and pasting from my Nov 5 workout: Dumbbell Hang Clean & Press I'm now so bloated with my after-workout shake that there's no way I'm going back downstairs to do them again
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    I didn't realize that I forgot an exercise until I was copying and pasting from my Nov 5 workout: Dumbbell Hang Clean & Press I'm now so bloated with my after-workout shake that there's no way I'm going back downstairs to do them again
    It happens when you get in 'the Zone'

    Great lifting again Mark ---- 330 x 8 on the deads and 137 x 5 on the OHPs (even if in error)
    How do you like the roman chair sit-ups now that you've added them back?
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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    How do you like the roman chair sit-ups now that you've added them back?
    Thanks, Andrew, and regarding the sit-ups, I like them a lot.
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    Nov11, 2012 (183.5#)

    Trapbar Deadlift
    warmups
    330x8

    OHP
    137x5
    137x5
    137x5
    I realized after my first set that this should have been 136, but I figured to stay with it. Very heavy but doable.

    Squat (Light day)
    warm-ups
    160x5
    160x5

    Roman Chair Sit-ups
    BWx15
    BWx15
    BWx15

    I didn't realize that I forgot an exercise until I was copying and pasting from my Nov 5 workout: Dumbbell Hang Clean & Press I'm now so bloated with my after-workout shake that there's no way I'm going back downstairs to do them again
    I have done that countless times. Rest assured you still got great stimulation. Heck, your warm up is like many folks' max effort.
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    What Bubba said...never seen anyone warm up like that

    When I came here earlier your OHP Vid was jumpy but tonite it worked well. Counting skills were spot on I don't know much about OHP's except it looked good and you pushed through well to the end.

    Nice work on the squat PR! Question now is, will you go for the 200 or not? Buy more of the bulk size pack M&M's..

    I bet it was especially nice to get positive feedback from your high school friends!
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    Tempted. tempted.

    For those who complain about not gaining mass, you would think it obvious but the scale MUST move! I sometimes struggle getting enough calories, but I've supplemented with trail mix (nuts, raisins, and M&Ms) and butter pecan ice cream.

    My wife and I had dinner with some high school friends that we haven't seen in over 10 years, and both said that it was "obvious" that I work out (feelsgood.jpg)


    That knife cuts both ways. I'm mirin' the progress that you've made with that 245x5 squat!
    Glad to see there are others that know how to enjoy bulking the right way (seriously). I don't advocate a diet of junk food. You have to get the nutrients from lean meats, fruits, vegetables, etc., but adding the extra treats DO NOT interfere with progress. My past bulk, I added 12lbs of most muscle and increased strength dramatically. My secret....3 chocolate homemade muffins my wife would bake and at least 2x/week, a huge bowl of ice cream. Of course I still have my hang-ups, and made sure the muffins were of a multi-grain and the ice cream was Breyers Lite, but the reality was, it was the extra calories, along with a good supply of ALL the major nutrients that did the trick. Could I get away with eating like this all year long? Only if I was I just concerned with strength. Fortunately, I have enough vanity that keeps my health in check, as well. Great to see your hard work was noticed by your old HS friends Payton. That should be very motivating. Also, your Trapbar DLs and OHPs are looking strong. Your new weight increase in paying off. If you decide to diet down again, you should end up at a higher bodyweight than last time. Just do it slowly, so you don't lose that hard-earned muscle.
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post

    I didn't realize that I forgot an exercise until I was copying and pasting from my Nov 5 workout: Dumbbell Hang Clean & Press I'm now so bloated with my after-workout shake that there's no way I'm going back downstairs to do them again
    I lol'ed. I know the exact feeling. Fuark!!!...!!! lol ya,blood in belly, fuh-ged-a-bowd it...Log's still doing fantastic. Loving it. You're zooming along.
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    Good work yesterday brother. Well done, "lite" or otherwise.
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    Originally Posted by Sillybubba View Post
    I have done that countless times. Rest assured you still got great stimulation.
    Agreed.

    Originally Posted by Lou1se View Post
    I bet it was especially nice to get positive feedback from your high school friends!
    My wife even criticized my shirt before we left. She said "don't you have something with tighter and shorter sleeves?" You're right: it was very nice.

    Originally Posted by fbcoach View Post
    Glad to see there are others that know how to enjoy bulking the right way (seriously). I don't advocate a diet of junk food. You have to get the nutrients from lean meats, fruits, vegetables, etc., but adding the extra treats DO NOT interfere with progress.
    You're right. Everyday (or most days) I eat eggs, tuna, salad, steamed veggies, and lean meat or chicken. As such, I have ZERO guilt in eating a bowl of ice cream every now and then.

    Originally Posted by drudixon View Post
    You're zooming along.
    A surplus of calories makes this possible

    Originally Posted by FlaIronMind View Post
    Good work yesterday brother. Well done, "lite" or otherwise.
    Thanks. My legs were quite sore last night, so either the deads or the squat from several days ago were certainly affecting the right muscles
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    Nov 14, 2012 (183.5 lbs)

    Dec Bench
    241x4.5 *ARRRRGH!*
    250x3 (Very, very heavy)

    Rows
    135x5
    150x5
    160x5
    170x5

    Squats
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    195x5
    195x5
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    Nov 14, 2012 (183.5 lbs)

    Dec Bench
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    250x3 (Very, very heavy)

    Rows
    135x5
    150x5
    160x5
    170x5

    Squats
    195x5
    195x5
    195x5
    195x5
    195x5 Volume PR
    250 on the bench! It is very, very heavy........great job Mark!
    And great job on hitting all those squats!
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
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    Some really good work here, Mark. Did you have a spotter for that half rep, or did you have some safeties to set it down on? I have failed on declines before and had to set the bar on the safeties, and then figure out how to climb out from under it.
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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    And great job on hitting all those squats!
    I suppose "better late than never," but I'm sure I'd be a lot bigger if I had been doing squats over the last 25 years!!! I'm probably as excited about my squat numbers as anything else as of late. And when you wrote several weeks ago that I'd be repping 225, I initially thought "no way," but now that seems possible. In fact, if I decide to extend this caloric surplus much longer after Thanksgiving, then further improvement to my squat #'s will be the reason!

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    Did you have a spotter for that half rep, or did you have some safeties to set it down on? I have failed on declines before and had to set the bar on the safeties, and then figure out how to climb out from under it.
    Unfortunately, I have no safeties. Until recently, I just knew my limit and wouldn't go beyond it. I've failed to get a bench rep sans spotter three times in the last 15 years, and two of those have been in the past month! I've been pushing too far on that exercise, and I need to either get a spotter (only my 12 year old son was home last night, but he could have done it) or quit pushing the envelope.
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    250 x 3... Dayum man. That's nuts! Great job. Do you leave the collars off so you can dump to the sides? It's loud and sorta scary, but better than the alternative of trying to roll 250lbs over your abs to your lap. My safeties are the wrong height for me, so I don't use them for bench. If I get them high enough to help me in case of failure, then they're in the way. I wouldn't mind those rope things with the quick release, but I'm not sure the I beams in the ceiling will support very much.
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    Originally Posted by drudixon View Post
    Do you leave the collars off so you can dump to the sides?
    DEFINITELY! I've never had to dump the weights, but I know that option exists
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    I suppose "better late than never," but I'm sure I'd be a lot bigger if I had been doing squats over the last 25 years!!! I'm probably as excited about my squat numbers as anything else as of late. And when you wrote several weeks ago that I'd be repping 225, I initially thought "no way," but now that seems possible. In fact, if I decide to extend this caloric surplus much longer after Thanksgiving, then further improvement to my squat #'s will be the reason!
    Squats and deads for mass, strength and balance!
    I suspect that you'd be good for reps of 225 already, but I like the way you've been progressing so I don't see any point in pushing it. You'll be there with 225 x 5 x 5 sometime in the New Year as long as you keep up the cals!
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    Ruh-roh! Tweaked my back on Rep #2 doing 332# deads. This time I was smart enough to abandon the set (the whole workout in fact). I immediately too ibuprofen and iced, so let's hope this doesn't get bad.

    Looks like I have an unexpected break. If I'm 100% by mid-week, I'll be back at it.
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    Oh. Sorry to hear it, take all the time you need. I did that not too long ago. Came back into it after almost a week off deads, very carefully to test the waters and gradually worked my way back where I left off. Training when tired can cause you to lose concentration, form goes out the window. Hopefully next time I will recognize when to drop the weight or to abandon it altogether :/

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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    Ruh-roh! Tweaked my back on Rep #2 doing 332# deads. This time I was smart enough to abandon the set (the whole workout in fact). I immediately too ibuprofen and iced, so let's hope this doesn't get bad.

    Looks like I have an unexpected break. If I'm 100% by mid-week, I'll be back at it.
    At least you were smart Mark! I'm sure that your back will get better soon ---- I want to see you getting 350 x 8 on those deads in the new year!
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    Originally Posted by Lou1se View Post
    Oh. Sorry to hear it, take all the time you need.
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    At least you were smart Mark! I'm sure that your back will get better soon
    Thanks, guys. I guess I'll have to take my own advice: this is just a short break that won't even be noticeable 6 months from now. And regardless where I start back, each workout I'll incrementally make progress and will approach and hopefully exceed my present numbers.
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    Just a minor speed bump in the highway we call working out. Ha, I know that's some metaphorical nonsense I'm spewing, but you get the point. I've thrown my back out probably 10 times in 15 years, but I actually used deads to rehab my back, contrary to what folks say. Was it a bit heavy or just tweaked form on the said rep?
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    Uh oh. Where was the tweak? Low, mid, high?
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    Originally Posted by Sillybubba View Post
    Was it a bit heavy or just tweaked form on the said rep?
    Probably both.

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    Uh oh. Where was the tweak? Low, mid, high?
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    Probably both.


    Low.
    Damn man. How's it feel today? I've tweaked my mid back many times, so much so I know how to fix it. I have my wife find the top insertion point and mash the absolute bejesus out of it. A day later, fine. I have no idea where it'd be for lower, or if it'd work.GLGLGL
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    Originally Posted by drudixon View Post
    Damn man. How's it feel today? I've tweaked my mid back many times, so much so I know how to fix it. I have my wife find the top insertion point and mash the absolute bejesus out of it. A day later, fine. I have no idea where it'd be for lower, or if it'd work.GLGLGL
    It still hurts like a son-of-a-gun. I was hoping to be back at it Wed, but it might take a couple of weeks.

    With your problem, do you think it's muscle or skeletal related? I'm fairly certain mine is muscle, and I'm just assuming that it's going to take time. I hit it with the TENS device for quite a while this weekend, but I felt no better afterwards
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    With any muscle strain, first ice and NSAIDs, then after a day get in and stretch it. It's a few torn fibres and there will be a bit of bleeding and hence scarring when it heals. You want to stretch so that the adjacent muscle stays pulled to length rather than all hunched up by a scar so it will tear again. The stretching will be painful initially, but do it


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