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Is it possible to gain muscle while losing fat?
I am on a cut right now and was wondering is there a way to gain muscle while also losing weight if i ate my reccomended protein per day along with heavy weights etc?
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Noob gains, maybe. Generally, no.
Cal Surplus = Gain Weight
Cal Deficit = Lose Weight
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Absolutely. If you're new to lifting you can rely on beginners gains to add strength whilst losing fat.
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Originally Posted by Dopeshow16
Noob gains, maybe. Generally, no.
Cal Surplus = Gain Weight
Cal Deficit = Lose Weight
As long as its something is cool with me
Originally Posted by Spanishdream
Absolutely. If you're new to lifting you can rely on beginners gains to add strength whilst losing fat.
Yeh some strength gains would really help aswell
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Originally Posted by Pump ma Bicep
I am on a cut right now and was wondering is there a way to gain muscle while also losing weight if i ate my reccomended protein per day along with heavy weights etc?
Yes if you get plenty of protein, weight train hard youll get gains here and there but dont expect much
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Once your beginner gains come to an end any strength gains whilst be minimal.
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Originally Posted by Spanishdream
Once your beginner gains come to an end any strength gains whilst be minimal.
What about if you up the intensity of your workouts, eat clean, do plenty of cardio and get sufficient rest ?
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Originally Posted by Saqmanz
What about if you up the intensity of your workouts, eat clean, do plenty of cardio and get sufficient rest ?
Without a surplus of calories, to add the mass, any strength games would be minimal.
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what about a combination of a small deficit + stored calories. Wouldn't that yield muscle gain/fat loss. lol i duno though
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In short, yes.
The de facto thing of deficit to cut, surplus to gain generally holds true. The thing is, that surplus doesn't have to come from food. Put stress on your muscles, and your body wants to grow them bigger to better be able to handle that stress. If it can find the energy, it will. If it can't, it will maintain their current state. Fat=energy surplus. Fat cells won't magically change shape and become muscle cells. But, your body can tap into those stores to utilize the energy for muscle growth. Works better for people with lots of excess fat, harder to do if your like 10-15% body fat.
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for you yes
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Gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time is really just a mind set. Once I took Skip La Cour's advice and always stepped into the gym to gain muscle/strength regardless of how much or little I ate I gained muscle. While dieting for a show and getting dunked to test my body fat from 8 weeks out to 5 weeks out I had gained 4 solid pounds of muscle. I had been training for 7 plus years prior to competing. Never think you can't gain muscle all the time. Once you think that you'll lose muscle because you mentally made that choice.
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Originally Posted by jsmoor09
In short, yes.
The de facto thing of deficit to cut, surplus to gain generally holds true. The thing is, that surplus doesn't have to come from food. Put stress on your muscles, and your body wants to grow them bigger to better be able to handle that stress. If it can find the energy, it will. If it can't, it will maintain their current state. Fat=energy surplus. Fat cells won't magically change shape and become muscle cells. But, your body can tap into those stores to utilize the energy for muscle growth. Works better for people with lots of excess fat, harder to do if your like 10-15% body fat.
Finally, a proper explanation. It's hard to twist around the general views and the real view.
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Wouldn't underestimate the loss of body fat giving the allusion that one has actually gained muscle while losing "weight".
Have seen plenty who have looked fat then lost weight and actually looked bigger just because of the change in BF %.
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Originally Posted by daveel
Wouldn't underestimate the loss of body fat giving the allusion that one has actually gained muscle while losing "weight".
Have seen plenty who have looked fat then lost weight and actually looked bigger just because of the change in BF %.
Without a doubt. You can see significant definition with smaller amounts of mass if you get your bf low enough. But countless people have seen their lifts skyrocket, have had their measurments in their chest, back and arms increase, despite shedding weight and fat.
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Originally Posted by Spanishdream
Once your beginner gains come to an end any strength gains whilst be minimal.
Is there a general timeframe of "beginner gains" i keep hearing about?
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Originally Posted by TNJen
Is there a general timeframe of "beginner gains" i keep hearing about?
Eh, you hear about some people gaining x amount of muscle mass in a given year. I wouldn't put any stock into a time frame anyone gives you. If you're cutting, you need to lift hard to preserve as much muscle as you can anyways. If put get some strength/mass gains, it's gravy.
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varies from one person to another, but yes its possible. Strength gains for sure. I'm steadily making strength gains and i'm 4-5 months in, 3rd month of powerlifting. My traps have grown significantly lo(i'm attributing this to genetics though)l.
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B: 335 tng / 315 paused
D: 475c/425s
P: 205
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Originally Posted by jsmoor09
Eh, you hear about some people gaining x amount of muscle mass in a given year. I wouldn't put any stock into a time frame anyone gives you. If you're cutting, you need to lift hard to preserve as much muscle as you can anyways. If put get some strength/mass gains, it's gravy.
Alright, thanks
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Strength gains, despite being a noob or not, while cutting is very possible as neuromuscular efficiency improves.
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happened to me when i first started lifting, and its happening again. i think its called recomping.
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I have never been on a specific diet regime. I do carb cycle on days I do not work out but I never counted calories. I am 6'0 193 lbs and 9% bf. I strongly believe being a Green/Oolong tea fanatic has been my key secret to staying lean while adding muscle. So many studies about these tea's that lead to fat loss and boosting metabolism. One study from a natural magazine article (Will try to find source) stated that subjects who drank 4 hot cups of green tea a day for 8 weeks lost more weight/fat with no diet change than subjects who did not.
Also, I am a yoga practitioner and I have been doing yoga twice a day for 2 years. Many guys turn away from this but this is the holy grail of getting abs. I started meditation and Yoga when I was in the army, since being in the IDF was very stressful. Yoga has so many health benefits, from flexibility, massaging the organs, to elongating your muscles to appear leaner. I have noticed a drastic improvement in my mid section since practicing yoga. Plus, stretching the muscles out will give you more improvement for muscle growth and definition in the processes, how do you beat that?
I do not take supplements, I don't take pills, and I have not been sick since I was 16. The combination of Yoga, Diet, Tea's and healthy lifestyle will reach all your health and fitness goals in one.
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