Deadlifts instead of squats on 5x5

[Jevastus]

Greetings. So I'm doing Stronglifts 5x5.

Workout A:

Squat
Bench
Row



Workout B:

Squat
OHP
DL 1x5

Both include chin-ups (3 sets x failure)

2.5 K increases every workout, but now I'm dropping squats for deadlifts (5x5 DLs)--please do not try to change my mind--, so my questions are:

If I drop squats for DLs, will that affect my 2.5 increases? And should I drop chin-ups to avoid overtraining my back? Should I make rows 3x5 instead of 5x5?

I'm doing sumo DLs btw.

Thanks heaps.

[isaku900]

no one is going to help you because the only proper advice to give is to not do what you're planning on doing. Since you've asked us to "please not try to change your mind" there is no helpful response possible.

[arian11]

no one is going to help you because the only proper advice to give is to not do what you're planning on doing. Since you've asked us to "please not try to change your mind" there is no helpful response possible.

Haha, this.

[ChecksandGiggles]

Can we at least hear why you want to not do Squats?

[John Prophet]

Greetings. So I'm doing Stronglifts 5x5.

Workout A:

Squat
Bench
Row



Workout B:

Squat
OHP
DL 1x5

Both include chin-ups (3 sets x failure)

2.5 K increases every workout, but now I'm dropping squats for deadlifts (5x5 DLs)--please do not try to change my mind--, so my questions are:

If I drop squats for DLs, will that affect my 2.5 increases? And should I drop chin-ups to avoid overtraining my back? Should I make rows 3x5 instead of 5x5?

I'm doing sumo DLs btw.

Thanks heaps.

What is the "B" workout going to look like now?

[Black_Spit]

Can we at least hear why you want to not do Squats?

lol this

[John Prophet]

how old is your mom? is she fly?

[bmontgomery87]

no one is going to help you because the only proper advice to give is to not do what you're planning on doing. Since you've asked us to "please not try to change your mind" there is no helpful response possible.

agreed. follow the program. you can add in some deads. but if it says to squat, be a man and squat.

[Jevastus]

What is the "B" workout going to look like now?

Ummm... I'm not sure if you meant to scorch me or... but anyways. 5X5 DLs like I said. Both workouts.

[Elemental1]

Only Mehdi himself could really reply properly to this,after all,its his strength program. I'm currently doing it also even though squats are my downfall too,just get on with it.

[bmontgomery87]

In for answer on why you're choosing to skip one of the best lifts known to man.

[joelash302]

Dude, I think you're deciding on my behalf what's "proper" and "helpful" to me... I know you're tryna help but going back to squats is not really the subject now. I just want my questions answered.

I'd sure as fuck listen to someone with a 2,200 total that's taken the time to help me.

[SoulZeppelin]

If you DL instead of squat it isn't SL 5x5 anymore.

What would the B day look like? Going to 5x5 DL, 5x5 OHP then 1x5 DL? Seems odd...

I'm on SL right now and I love DL days. I still squat every workout.

Honestly - why no squats? If you don't want to do them a different program might be better for you. Most of the beginner programs include them though.

[Incensed]

Man the **** up OP this is pathetic

[SoulZeppelin]

I'd sure as fuck listen to someone with a 2,200 total that's taken the time to help me.

This.

[Jevastus]

Only Mehdi himself could really reply properly to this,after all,its his strength program. I'm currently doing it also even though squats are my downfall too,just get on with it.

This is a bit off topic but since you brought this up, I think Mehdi is overrating the squat like most people do. Even if they're slightly more productive than deadlifts, I don't mind...

I might get back to squats later on when I get a rack and see what the problem with my knees is, but I'm not going to stop lifting just because I can't squat.
This might after all be temporary. Or not. I've done really heavy research on squats vs deadlifts and even though most people choose the former, most just never give an explanation.


Anyways keep up.

[Jevastus]

I'd sure as fuck listen to someone with a 2,200 total that's taken the time to help me.

Am I not listening?

I listened to someones with 2,200, 5000 and 20. And I've made my mind.

[isaku900]

Dude, I think you're deciding on my behalf what's "proper" and "helpful" to me... I know you're tryna help but going back to squats is not really the subject now. I just want my questions answered.

deadlifting that much is counterproductive and will slow or reverse any progress you might be making.

[Jevastus]

deadlifting that much is counterproductive and will slow or reverse any progress you might be making.

Well thank you very much sir. Any suggestions to avoid both? Oh and without squatting?

[Saqmanz]

Might as well drop the whole idea of weightlifting and take up darts instead at your local pub.

[Jevastus]

If you DL instead of squat it isn't SL 5x5 anymore.

What would the B day look like? Going to 5x5 DL, 5x5 OHP then 1x5 DL? Seems odd...

I'm on SL right now and I love DL days. I still squat every workout.

Honestly - why no squats? If you don't want to do them a different program might be better for you. Most of the beginner programs include them though.

Haha. Nah.

It's one workout.

DL 5x5

Bench or OHP

Row

-Ups.

[John Prophet]

Ummm... I'm not sure if you meant to scorch me or... but anyways. 5X5 DLs like I said. Both workouts.

scorch u? huh? no clue what u mean


The "b" workout ALREADY has deads. So are you going to deadlift twice??



The way I see it, if a program only has 5 exercises and you are going to change the main one....then you simply arent doing the program anymore.

So if you are going to change the main aspect of the program....why not just make your own program up???

[isaku900]

Well thank you very much sir. Any suggestions to avoid both? Oh and without squatting?

if you're not squatting because you don't have a squat rack, and your knee hurts you need to do two things:

1) find another gym, immediately.
2) fix your squat form, if your knee is actually injured (something is torn) then get it surgically repaired, if your knee hurts because you squat poorly, learn how to squat.

[Jevastus]

scorch u? huh? no clue what u mean


The "b" workout ALREADY has deads. So are you going to deadlift twice??



The way I see it, if a program only has 5 exercises and you are going to change the main one....then you simply arent doing the program anymore.

So if you are going to change the main aspect of the program....why not just make your own program up???

I meant scold LOL


Anyways see above. I already am I think.

[Jevastus]

if you're not squatting because you don't have a squat rack, and your knee hurts you need to do two things:

1) find another gym, immediately.
2) fix your squat form, if your knee is actually injured (something is torn) then get it surgically repaired, if your knee hurts because you squat poorly, learn how to squat.

Thanks for the advice.

[bmontgomery87]

if you're not squatting because you don't have a squat rack, and your knee hurts you need to do two things:

1) find another gym, immediately.
2) fix your squat form, if your knee is actually injured (something is torn) then get it surgically repaired, if your knee hurts because you squat poorly, learn how to squat.

agreed

[Wilsonator]

In to hear OP's progress deadlifting that much and to lol at major CNS fatigue

[SoulZeppelin]

Haha. Nah.

It's one workout.

DL 5x5

Bench or OHP

Row

-Ups.

Lol makes much more sense

What about zerchers/front squats? If it's just that you don't have stands you could still do those.

[Jevastus]

Lol makes much more sense

What about zerchers/front squats? If it's just that you don't have stands you could still do those.

I did a research on those.

Front/z squats no. I'm fine with less weight and slower progress but I really don't think I'd be able to clean it every set. I'd have to stop sometime.

I did a research on hack squats and the folks over there said it wasn't as effective?
I won't mind doing em I think.

[Jevastus]

In to hear OP's progress deadlifting that much and to lol at major CNS fatigue

O ya but you could've had everybody reading your comment get more out of their precious time couldn't ya?

Oh of course you couldn't. You're you. And that's... oh I'll stop.