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    Clinton,

    Here is the skinny, no pun intended. You are on the right track, you just need to stay away from the sneaky foods responsible for you holding some weight and replace them with better choices.

    Ditch the milk, fruit and nuts. Those three together can be problematic in the hunt for reduced body fat.

    Here is nice and simple…get all your caloriess for meat, starchy veggies and fat (coconut oil and olive oil). Check my TTMJ post on “Just tell me what to eat.”

    If leaning out is you goal, cut the calories back to 15 cals per lb of body weight, which should put you around 3500 cals a day.

    The standard…1 gram of protein per lb of body weight or around 23% to 25% of your total caloric load. Get this from meat…no protein shakes, milk…straight up animal flesh.

    Carbs should be about 25-30% of total caloric load done in the pre/post workout meals. Remember to keep fat to a nil in the pre/post workout meal, as we want things to hit the system fast., as fat slows absorption in the gut. While not advantageous in the pre/post workout meal, this is key in the other meals.

    Just to say it again, no shakes. The insulin response from the whey/dairy (lactose) can problematic for leaning out. Avocados are a no-no for leaning out. I learned this from my friend, Josh Bunch, from Practice CrossFit. Keep fats with saturated fat (animal and coconut) and mono-unsaturated fats in the form of olive oil.

    Drink 1 oz of water per 2 lbs of body weight. Not staying well hydrated is a major player in the fight to lean out.

    Get 8 hours sleep, at minimum.

    Limit coffee to 1 cup a day in AM, as too much coffee can cause cortisol release and that can be a problem. Supplement with green tea extract, I take a decent handful in the AM, as this will get **** started right.

    Ditch anything responsible for systemic inflammation. Beans, gluten, corn, rice, processed sugars or anything you cannot pronounce.

    Start supplementing with BCAAs (10 grams) pre/post workout. Leucine is the key player for an anabolic effect and will keep you from losing muscle.

    Lastly, cut the drinking back or ditch all together. And I don’t imagine you smoke pot because you have a job, are highly motivated, don’t live with your mom and don’t steal from your friends, but just for anyone reading, I would like to quote my friend, Jim Wendler, “Don’t smoke weed, what are you 16 years old? What the ****?”

    I think this covers it for lean out time. Take a before pix, and a weekly pix and hopefully along the way you will take a pix where you think, “Hey, I am not chubby anymore.” Visual feedback from a pix is great, as mirrors lie.

    Hope you can make Tampa seminar, as I will have some new information to drop. The only way I wont be there is if the girls are kicking and screaming.

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    Excuse me, but he referenced Crossfit. I'm pretty sure that makes this a legitimate article.
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    To think I used to actually believe some of this shi-t.
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    Bookmarked. Solid read

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    Originally Posted by Bro John Brah
    Clinton,

    Here is the skinny, no pun intended. You are on the right track, you just need to stay away from the sneaky foods responsible for you holding some weight and replace them with better choices.

    Ditch the milk, fruit and nuts. Those three together can be problematic in the hunt for reduced body fat.

    Here is nice and simple…get all your caloriess for meat, starchy veggies and fat (coconut oil and olive oil). Check my TTMJ post on “Just tell me what to eat.”

    If leaning out is you goal, cut the calories back to 15 cals per lb of body weight, which should put you around 3500 cals a day.

    The standard…1 gram of protein per lb of body weight or around 23% to 25% of your total caloric load. Get this from meat…no protein shakes, milk…straight up animal flesh.

    Carbs should be about 25-30% of total caloric load done in the pre/post workout meals. Remember to keep fat to a nil in the pre/post workout meal, as we want things to hit the system fast., as fat slows absorption in the gut. While not advantageous in the pre/post workout meal, this is key in the other meals.

    Just to say it again, no shakes. The insulin response from the whey/dairy (lactose) can problematic for leaning out. Avocados are a no-no for leaning out. I learned this from my friend, Josh Bunch, from Practice CrossFit. Keep fats with saturated fat (animal and coconut) and mono-unsaturated fats in the form of olive oil.

    Drink 1 oz of water per 2 lbs of body weight. Not staying well hydrated is a major player in the fight to lean out.

    Get 8 hours sleep, at minimum.

    Limit coffee to 1 cup a day in AM, as too much coffee can cause cortisol release and that can be a problem. Supplement with green tea extract, I take a decent handful in the AM, as this will get **** started right.

    Ditch anything responsible for systemic inflammation. Beans, gluten, corn, rice, processed sugars or anything you cannot pronounce.

    Start supplementing with BCAAs (10 grams) pre/post workout. Leucine is the key player for an anabolic effect and will keep you from losing muscle.

    Lastly, cut the drinking back or ditch all together. And I don’t imagine you smoke pot because you have a job, are highly motivated, don’t live with your mom and don’t steal from your friends, but just for anyone reading, I would like to quote my friend, Jim Wendler, “Don’t smoke weed, what are you 16 years old? What the ****?”

    I think this covers it for lean out time. Take a before pix, and a weekly pix and hopefully along the way you will take a pix where you think, “Hey, I am not chubby anymore.” Visual feedback from a pix is great, as mirrors lie.

    Hope you can make Tampa seminar, as I will have some new information to drop. The only way I wont be there is if the girls are kicking and screaming.

    John
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    Why is it that there are people out there that make a good living off preaching this misinformation?


    Srs, this sounds like EXACTLY something I would hear from a guy I know who owns several fitness businesses that are all doing very well.
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    Originally Posted by Chuck2600 View Post
    Why is it that there are people out there that make a good living off preaching this misinformation?


    Srs, this sounds like EXACTLY something I would hear from a guy I know who owns several fitness businesses that are all doing very well.
    anecdotal evidence> scientific evidence. imagine you're 15 again. You wanna start BBing but don't know correct nutrition. Do you follow what Jay cutler says? or do you follow what some guy who doesn't even lift say? it is most likely the former so Supp companies pay the pros to tell the public what they are doing (diet,supps) in order to get them to buy whatever. It's all about the money man, but that's a given...
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    Originally Posted by Chuck2600 View Post
    Why is it that there are people out there that make a good living off preaching this misinformation?


    Srs, this sounds like EXACTLY something I would hear from a guy I know who owns several fitness businesses that are all doing very well.
    Because most people are out to find the "magic fix" and are to blind to realize that there isn't one and it is as simple as cals in vs cals out while getting enough fat and protein.
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    I particularly enjoyed this part:

    Just to say it again, no shakes. The insulin response from the whey/dairy (lactose) can problematic for leaning out.
    * * *
    Start supplementing with BCAAs (10 grams) pre/post workout. Leucine is the key player for an anabolic effect and will keep you from losing muscle.
    I guess the University of Crossfit forgot to teach him that leucine is known to promote insulin secretion.
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    Clinton,

    Here is the skinny, no pun intended. You are on the right track, you just need to stay away from the sneaky foods responsible for you holding some weight and replace them with better choices.

    Ditch the milk, fruit and nuts. Those three together can be problematic in the hunt for reduced body fat...
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    Replace fruits and nuts with starches? This article is so bro, it went full circle and is anti-bro. It's catabrolic.
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    Stumbled upon this gem today... http://talktomejohnnie.com/diet/leaning-out



    Take a shot every time you read a piece of broscience. You'll be wasted before you finish the article.
    Takehome lesson: The minute you start doing Crossfit, you are automatically qualified to preach the Paleo bullsh!t.
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    The funniest part is that I replied to that article with a rather long explanation of what was wrong and why. It was deleted in a matter of hours. Not only is the guy ignorant, he's willfully ignorant.
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    Originally Posted by nobrah View Post
    The funniest part is that I replied to that article with a rather long explanation of what was wrong and why. It was deleted in a matter of hours. Not only is the guy ignorant, he's willfully ignorant.
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