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    When is the best time consume complex carbs for energy?

    If your only having 1 serving of complex carbs a day, and you want that energy just for the gym, whens the best time?

    So say a cup of oats or rice? would it be right before the gym? or in the morning so they release later on?
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    The best time to consume carbs is when you're in the mood for carbs.
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    why can't you just give a serious answer?
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    Originally Posted by Chudz View Post
    why can't you just give a serious answer?
    My answer was entirely serious.

    Unless you're engaging in certain types of exhaustive endurance activities, particularly if such activities are repeated intraday, the timing of CHO intake is a function of personal preference much like the timing/frequency of your meals and the composition of your meals in general.
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    i would venture to guess like an hour before u work out. ps y u no eat more servings of carbs?
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    It was a serious answer. It makes no difference when you consume carbs, I eat the majority of mine at night because that's when I enjoy eating them
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    <-- eats nearly all daily carbs in first meal after workout
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    <-- drinks most of his carbs in the evening (chocolate milk), many hours after training fasted in the morning.
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    Yeah i understand that meal timing is irrelevant but i would like to know when the best time to consume them for energy? would you say an hour before workout?
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    Thanks for the reply, but im not talking about carbs and fat loss.. i'm talking about the energy
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    Originally Posted by Chudz View Post
    Yeah i understand that meal timing is irrelevant but i would like to know when the best time to consume them for energy? would you say an hour before workout?
    You don't need "carbs for energy", you have a large store of glycogen in the muscles which is highly likely to be sufficient for all but very long duration training (e.g. extended endurance training). This is why people doing IF get great workouts even after not eating for 16 hours.
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    ^ This x2.


    Originally Posted by Chudz View Post
    Yeah i understand that meal timing is irrelevant but i would like to know when the best time to consume them for energy? would you say an hour before workout?
    The best time would be when you prefer to consume them.

    Again, it's a matter of personal preference and individual reaction. If I consumed CHO an before my workout, I'd feel lethargic, but some react the opposite way.
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    I was going to write a long, detailed reply but I just don't have the energy.

    OP, just experiment and see what works best for you.
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    I prefer a small amount of carbs + protein about 60-90 minutes before I lift, but everyone is different as has been stated.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    The best time to consume carbs is when you're in the mood for carbs.
    Originally Posted by Chudz View Post
    why can't you just give a serious answer?
    Op, his answer would have pissed me off too a couple months ago. But I came to the realization all pug's siht is backed up scientifically and he filters it for laymen like me to understand.
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    I get what you're asking, but instead of asking here, why not experiment. If you feel timing affects YOUR body and energy, try them at different times. For me, I have a routine where I eat specific foods about two hours before gym time. That works for me.

    If you workout fasted, then great.
    If you workout 3 minutes after a Thanksgiving dinner and that works, then great.

    If you can go with the 'it doesn't matter' then go for it. For me personally, the 'it doesn't matter when you eat them' doesn't work for me. I need to spread my meals out and while some will say it shouldn't matter, for me it does. That's just what works for me.

    I'd say you should find the same for yourself.
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    I drink coffee for my "energy"
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    Thanks alot! definitely gonna experiment!
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    I was going to write a long, detailed reply but I just don't have the energy.
    On this basis, I would not have believed your answer
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    The best time to consume carbs is when you're in the mood for carbs.
    Couldn't have said it better myself..
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    Looking for the answer too.

    Originally Posted by Chudz View Post
    If your only having 1 serving of complex carbs a day, and you want that energy just for the gym, whens the best time?

    So say a cup of oats or rice? would it be right before the gym? or in the morning so they release later on?
    To come to body building site for important info & getting the random answers posted here shows me that not everyone does their research. And, this is a popular site to say the least. Even tho this post is 2 years old this is still a legit question. Carbs play a huge role in muscle building as well as regulating insulin etc. it IS important to know when to eat carbs correctly if you want certain results. I did find this website that gives great guidelines & an understanding of how the body uses carbs etc. so if you're still looking & really want to know here's a good place to start. Btw, I'm a nurse, massage therapist & someone who just started training in the gym & I want optimal results, just saying.... OK it won't let me post a link, so I will post the info if it will let me.

    If you want to optimize your diet for muscle gain and fat loss itís important to know how to integrate carbohydrates into your diet. Thereís nothing complex about it, you just have to follow a few simple rules.

    TO MINIMIZE FAT STORAGE FOLLOW THESE RULES

    Eat complex carbohydrates
    Complex carbohydrates are found in whole foods like brown rice, potatoes, whole grain cereal and oatmeal. Complex carbohydrates should make up the bulk of your daily calorie intake because they form muscle glycogen, the long lasting fuel that your body needs to train hard. Complex carbohydrates are slow burning which means you get longer lasting energy. They also help keep your blood sugar levels constant, this reduces fat storage and fatigue and promotes the release of insulin. Insulin is the bodyís natural anabolic hormone and is essential for muscle development.
    Eat carbohydrates directly after training
    When you train hard you reduce your blood sugar level considerably. Eating carbohydrates straight after a training session provides your body with an insulin spike. This insulin spike puts your body into an anabolic (muscle building) state. If you do not get the right nutrients after training itís possible that your body could enter a catabolic (muscle breakdown) state. This is why post workout nutrition is so important.
    Eat small amounts of carbohydrates more often
    Eating smaller servings of carbohydrates more often helps keep a steady flow of insulin into the body. If you eat large amounts of carbohydrates in one sitting your body is much more likely to store them as fat. Eating to much is one sitting is unnecessary; your body doesnít need that much nutrients at one time.
    Eat high fiber carbohydrates
    This goes hand-in-hand with point number 1 because most sources of complex carbohydrates are rich sources of fiber. Fiber helps to build muscle by making muscle tissue absorb amino acids faster and more efficiently.
    Avoid fruits
    This may sound insane because we all know that fruit is high in vitamins, low in calories and very good for general health and wellbeing. But, fruit contains fructose which is a very simple sugar. The body converts fructose into glycogen which is used as a building block for fat tissue.
    Have carbohydrates and protein in the same meal
    When you mix protein and carbohydrates together in the same meal you minimize the chance of the carbohydrates being stored as fat. Protein is harder for the body to process, so it increases your metabolism. Also, carbohydrates help transport the nutrients from protein to the muscle cells which aids in muscle growth.
    Follow these rules, and you can use carbohydrates to your advantage to build more muscle faster. If you find youíre gaining too much fat then you should cut out carbs after 7pm. Unless you have a fast metabolism, eating carbs late at night is generally not a good idea. Your body does not need the energy while youíre sleeping so itís likely to store the carbs as fat.

    Another point worth mentioning here is meal sizes. Like I stated in point 3, you should eat small meals more often. Have you ever felt really tired after eating? Then youíve eaten too much. Your body has to use a lot of energy to process the food which leaves you feeling tired and energy-less. This style of eating will also decrease your metabolic rate. To keep your metabolism high you need to constantly stimulate it with small meals every 3 hours or so.

    So the main points you need to remember here are; eat good complex carbohydrates, eat small amounts more often, always have a good serving of complex carbohydrates about 1 hour before your workout (for energy) and straight after your meal (for insulin spike) and if you are gaining excess fat stop eating carbohydrates after 7pm.
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    Originally Posted by CThunderdance1 View Post
    To come to body building site for important info & getting the random answers posted here shows me that not everyone does their research. And, this is a popular site to say the least. Even tho this post is 2 years old this is still a legit question. Carbs play a huge role in muscle building as well as regulating insulin etc. it IS important to know when to eat carbs correctly if you want certain results. I did find this website that gives great guidelines & an understanding of how the body uses carbs etc. so if you're still looking & really want to know here's a good place to start. Btw, I'm a nurse, massage therapist & someone who just started training in the gym & I want optimal results, just saying.... OK it won't let me post a link, so I will post the info if it will let me.

    If you want to optimize your diet for muscle gain and fat loss it’s important to know how to integrate carbohydrates into your diet. There’s nothing complex about it, you just have to follow a few simple rules.

    TO MINIMIZE FAT STORAGE FOLLOW THESE RULES

    Eat complex carbohydrates
    Complex carbohydrates are found in whole foods like brown rice, potatoes, whole grain cereal and oatmeal. Complex carbohydrates should make up the bulk of your daily calorie intake because they form muscle glycogen, the long lasting fuel that your body needs to train hard. Complex carbohydrates are slow burning which means you get longer lasting energy. They also help keep your blood sugar levels constant, this reduces fat storage and fatigue and promotes the release of insulin. Insulin is the body’s natural anabolic hormone and is essential for muscle development.
    Eat carbohydrates directly after training
    When you train hard you reduce your blood sugar level considerably. Eating carbohydrates straight after a training session provides your body with an insulin spike. This insulin spike puts your body into an anabolic (muscle building) state. If you do not get the right nutrients after training it’s possible that your body could enter a catabolic (muscle breakdown) state. This is why post workout nutrition is so important.
    Eat small amounts of carbohydrates more often
    Eating smaller servings of carbohydrates more often helps keep a steady flow of insulin into the body. If you eat large amounts of carbohydrates in one sitting your body is much more likely to store them as fat. Eating to much is one sitting is unnecessary; your body doesn’t need that much nutrients at one time.
    Eat high fiber carbohydrates
    This goes hand-in-hand with point number 1 because most sources of complex carbohydrates are rich sources of fiber. Fiber helps to build muscle by making muscle tissue absorb amino acids faster and more efficiently.
    Avoid fruits
    This may sound insane because we all know that fruit is high in vitamins, low in calories and very good for general health and wellbeing. But, fruit contains fructose which is a very simple sugar. The body converts fructose into glycogen which is used as a building block for fat tissue.
    Have carbohydrates and protein in the same meal
    When you mix protein and carbohydrates together in the same meal you minimize the chance of the carbohydrates being stored as fat. Protein is harder for the body to process, so it increases your metabolism. Also, carbohydrates help transport the nutrients from protein to the muscle cells which aids in muscle growth.
    Follow these rules, and you can use carbohydrates to your advantage to build more muscle faster. If you find you’re gaining too much fat then you should cut out carbs after 7pm. Unless you have a fast metabolism, eating carbs late at night is generally not a good idea. Your body does not need the energy while you’re sleeping so it’s likely to store the carbs as fat.

    Another point worth mentioning here is meal sizes. Like I stated in point 3, you should eat small meals more often. Have you ever felt really tired after eating? Then you’ve eaten too much. Your body has to use a lot of energy to process the food which leaves you feeling tired and energy-less. This style of eating will also decrease your metabolic rate. To keep your metabolism high you need to constantly stimulate it with small meals every 3 hours or so.

    So the main points you need to remember here are; eat good complex carbohydrates, eat small amounts more often, always have a good serving of complex carbohydrates about 1 hour before your workout (for energy) and straight after your meal (for insulin spike) and if you are gaining excess fat stop eating carbohydrates after 7pm.


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    Originally Posted by CThunderdance1 View Post
    To come to body building site for important info & getting the random answers posted here shows me that not everyone does their research. And, this is a popular site to say the least. Even tho this post is 2 years old this is still a legit question. Carbs play a huge role in muscle building as well as regulating insulin etc. it IS important to know when to eat carbs correctly if you want certain results. I did find this website that gives great guidelines & an understanding of how the body uses carbs etc. so if you're still looking & really want to know here's a good place to start. Btw, I'm a nurse, massage therapist & someone who just started training in the gym & I want optimal results, just saying.... OK it won't let me post a link, so I will post the info if it will let me.

    If you want to optimize your diet for muscle gain and fat loss it’s important to know how to integrate carbohydrates into your diet. There’s nothing complex about it, you just have to follow a few simple rules.

    TO MINIMIZE FAT STORAGE FOLLOW THESE RULES

    Eat complex carbohydrates
    Complex carbohydrates are found in whole foods like brown rice, potatoes, whole grain cereal and oatmeal. Complex carbohydrates should make up the bulk of your daily calorie intake because they form muscle glycogen, the long lasting fuel that your body needs to train hard. Complex carbohydrates are slow burning which means you get longer lasting energy. They also help keep your blood sugar levels constant, this reduces fat storage and fatigue and promotes the release of insulin. Insulin is the body’s natural anabolic hormone and is essential for muscle development.
    Eat carbohydrates directly after training
    When you train hard you reduce your blood sugar level considerably. Eating carbohydrates straight after a training session provides your body with an insulin spike. This insulin spike puts your body into an anabolic (muscle building) state. If you do not get the right nutrients after training it’s possible that your body could enter a catabolic (muscle breakdown) state. This is why post workout nutrition is so important.
    Eat small amounts of carbohydrates more often
    Eating smaller servings of carbohydrates more often helps keep a steady flow of insulin into the body. If you eat large amounts of carbohydrates in one sitting your body is much more likely to store them as fat. Eating to much is one sitting is unnecessary; your body doesn’t need that much nutrients at one time.
    Eat high fiber carbohydrates
    This goes hand-in-hand with point number 1 because most sources of complex carbohydrates are rich sources of fiber. Fiber helps to build muscle by making muscle tissue absorb amino acids faster and more efficiently.
    Avoid fruits
    This may sound insane because we all know that fruit is high in vitamins, low in calories and very good for general health and wellbeing. But, fruit contains fructose which is a very simple sugar. The body converts fructose into glycogen which is used as a building block for fat tissue.
    Have carbohydrates and protein in the same meal
    When you mix protein and carbohydrates together in the same meal you minimize the chance of the carbohydrates being stored as fat. Protein is harder for the body to process, so it increases your metabolism. Also, carbohydrates help transport the nutrients from protein to the muscle cells which aids in muscle growth.
    Follow these rules, and you can use carbohydrates to your advantage to build more muscle faster. If you find you’re gaining too much fat then you should cut out carbs after 7pm. Unless you have a fast metabolism, eating carbs late at night is generally not a good idea. Your body does not need the energy while you’re sleeping so it’s likely to store the carbs as fat.

    Another point worth mentioning here is meal sizes. Like I stated in point 3, you should eat small meals more often. Have you ever felt really tired after eating? Then you’ve eaten too much. Your body has to use a lot of energy to process the food which leaves you feeling tired and energy-less. This style of eating will also decrease your metabolic rate. To keep your metabolism high you need to constantly stimulate it with small meals every 3 hours or so.

    So the main points you need to remember here are; eat good complex carbohydrates, eat small amounts more often, always have a good serving of complex carbohydrates about 1 hour before your workout (for energy) and straight after your meal (for insulin spike) and if you are gaining excess fat stop eating carbohydrates after 7pm.
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    i eat 400G+ of carbs prior to bed sometimes. you mad OP?
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    Originally Posted by MAGnitude View Post
    i eat 400G+ of carbs prior to bed sometimes. you mad OP?
    ^ THIS. Literally just ate 460 grams of carbs last night immediately before bed. Went a little over for the day, but the ice cream and bread pudding was well worth it. Woke up full as f*ck too, don't think I'll be eating 'til later in the day today.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    I was going to write a long, detailed reply but I just don't have the energy.
    try eating more complex carbs
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