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    How much protein can I absorb?

    I've heard a lot of different things. What I think I know is that your body can only absorb 20 grams of Whey protein in an hour span. So I thought if i mixed Whey and Egg White protein that I could get a protein shake that was 60 grams of protein. While I was buying the powder someone seemed to be under the impression that you can't absorb more than 20 grams of ANY typw of protein which I dont think is true.

    So I'm wondering: Is there a way to get a 50-60 gram Protien shake that I will absorb? And what's the best way?

    Thank you so much
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    How much protein can I absorb? Pretty much all of it. "The body can only absorb X grams" is bullshiit, within reason of course.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Originally Posted by Tragic66 View Post
    I've heard a lot of different things. What I think I know is that your body can only absorb 20 grams of Whey protein in an hour span. So I thought if i mixed Whey and Egg White protein that I could get a protein shake that was 60 grams of protein. While I was buying the powder someone seemed to be under the impression that you can't absorb more than 20 grams of ANY typw of protein which I dont think is true.

    So I'm wondering: Is there a way to get a 50-60 gram Protien shake that I will absorb? And what's the best way?

    Thank you so much
    Your body only being able to handle so much protein at once is a myth.
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    drink your shake. your body will absorb as much protein as you put in it. wouldn't you think that after several hundred thousand years that humans would be able to absorb more than 20 grams?
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    Originally Posted by Tragic66 View Post
    So I'm wondering: Is there a way to get a 50-60 gram Protien shake that I will absorb? And what's the best way?
    Let's put your question in perspective.

    What do you think happens when someone eats a big steak? Do you think they absorb the nutrients contained therein, including the protein? Do you know that a big steak can easily contain 150 to 175 grams of protein or even more?
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    yesterday in a 3 hour time period I took in 205g protein, satiated beyond belief
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    Science has not been able to figure out how much protein a person can effectively absorb at a time. However there are several different published studies that do show advantages to people that exercise taking 1.5 grams of protein compared to lesser amounts. This is certainly more then 20-40 grams per meal. I dont know if there are any studies comparing even higher amounts of protein intake.
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    like many have said the body can only absorb "X" amount of protein at a time is totally a myth, and not true!

    and the best way to get your protein is personal preference! if that is by eating 6 meals or 1 meal! (And btw just incase you are wondering you do not need 6 meals a day to keep your metabolism running)
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    Thank you very much for all of your responces. I knew that protein from meats was okay to eat as much as you can. Just with whey protein i was told i could only have 20 at a time or it was all wasted. So Ill be putting 3 scoops in my shakes now. Thanks everyone
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    Originally Posted by SugarFree1 View Post
    However there are several different published studies that do show advantages to people that exercise taking 1.5 grams of protein compared to lesser amounts.
    Please cite those studies.
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    Can't believe this article hasn't been posted yet. OP read this.

    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...a-single-meal/
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    Dr. Lemon is one. If ya want more then that I'd have too look it up. Which I will do for you, since I hate when people point to studies and dont back up the source. Give me a bit and I'l find some of them.
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    Originally Posted by Tragic66 View Post
    Thank you very much for all of your responces. I knew that protein from meats was okay to eat as much as you can. Just with whey protein i was told i could only have 20 at a time or it was all wasted. So Ill be putting 3 scoops in my shakes now. Thanks everyone
    From a personal note, whenever I down more than 2 scoops I get sick. Unless it's with some bread, or something. Don't know if you will get the same side effect or not. If you don't, good on ya. There have been threads discussing this. Check out Wavelength's super thread "losing fat for noobs" in the losing fat section where he discusses his approach of sipping a 4 scoop shake throughout the day. Also, a lot of people here will encourage you to get your protein through whole food for saitey purposes and not to depend on whey shakes as it invites over eating at one time or another.
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    Originally Posted by SugarFree1 View Post
    Dr. Lemon is one. If ya want more then that I'd have too look it up. Which I will do for you, since I hate when people point to studies and dont back up the source. Give me a bit and I'l find some of them.
    Please cite studies and not simply list someone's name. Also, please make sure the studies are peer-reviewed and journal published.
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    Originally Posted by ejb20782 View Post
    yesterday in a 3 hour time period I took in 205g protein, satiated beyond belief
    That's it?
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    Originally Posted by in10city View Post
    How much protein can I absorb? Pretty much all of it. "The body can only absorb X grams" is bullshiit, within reason of course.
    Since I caught you, has there ever been an amount that has been the generally accepted upper limit? It would be somewhat individual, but I was unaware of any study that specifically stated a maximum. Granted, it's splitting hairs and probably not applicable in most real world settings, but it was just something I've been curious about.
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    That's it?
    touche, still a lightweight lol
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Please cite studies and not simply list someone's name. Also, please make sure the studies are peer-reviewed and journal published.
    Ya know what, I just wasted time looking up exactly that as I said I would but apparently your just looking to disprove something. In which case, I already gave you the name of the study you can look it up for yourself.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Please cite studies and not simply list someone's name. Also, please make sure the studies are peer-reviewed and journal published.
    so you buy into the broscience that the supplement companies have given you telling you to eat 1.5grams per lbs +

    and here i thought you were anti broscience
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    Originally Posted by SugarFree1 View Post
    Ya know what, I just wasted time looking up exactly that as I said I would but apparently your just looking to disprove something. In which case, I already gave you the name of the study you can look it up for yourself.
    You're so busted

    I asked for citations because I have never encountered such research. I presume you have not either and just made a bald assertion about it, and now you're busted.
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    Originally Posted by Bramble View Post
    so you buy into the broscience that the supplement companies have given you telling you to eat 1.5grams per lbs +

    and here i thought you were anti broscience
    Are you trying to bramble up another thread, laddie?
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    Originally Posted by SugarFree1 View Post
    Ya know what, I just wasted time looking up exactly that as I said I would but apparently your just looking to disprove something. In which case, I already gave you the name of the study you can look it up for yourself.
    How about posting the link to that study? I too would be very interested to read it.
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    I think this is the study SugarFree1 was referring to:

    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/suppl_5/513S.full

    Originally Posted by SugarFree1 View Post
    Ya know what, I just wasted time looking up exactly that as I said I would but apparently your just looking to disprove something. In which case, I already gave you the name of the study you can look it up for yourself.
    You looked it up but you couldn't be bothered to post it yourself because you thought someone wanted to prove it wrong? Sheesh.
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    Wow, another thread about how much protein can be used by the body!

    And why are we all arguing about it? If you don't feel like you are not taking in enough protein, take in more. If you feel like you are taking in too much and having digestion problems...take in less. Why are we focusing on studies? Who cares? Most of the "studies" don't even relate to a hardcore athlete / bodybuilder, so the information contained in the "study" is worthless.

    Sugarfree1: You are right, there have been studies. But, why waste time trying to find them? You have nothing to prove. You know what works for you and I know what works for me.

    OP: Your body will metabolize more than 20g of whey at a time. Whey digests very fast. I usually take 50g whey at a time, never had a problem with it.

    Wonderpug: Why would you try to discredit someone's post. That's not cool, and I noticed you like to be the devil's advocate on this subject. Trying to hurt people's feelings on this forum will not gain you respect.
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    Originally Posted by SugarFree1 View Post
    Science has not been able to figure out how much protein a person can effectively absorb at a time. However there are several different published studies that do show advantages to people that exercise taking 1.5 grams of protein compared to lesser amounts. This is certainly more then 20-40 grams per meal. I dont know if there are any studies comparing even higher amounts of protein intake.
    Originally Posted by x-ray vision View Post
    I think this is the study SugarFree1 was referring to:

    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/suppl_5/513S.full


    You looked it up but you couldn't be bothered to post it yourself because you thought someone wanted to prove it wrong? Sheesh.

    SugarFree, if x-ray posted a link the study that you're referring to, then please be aware that they are talking about kg and not pounds per the following quote:

    "These studies indicate that for physically active individuals daily protein intake needs could be as high as 1.6–1.8 g/kg (about twice the current recommendation). "

    That equates to 0.73 to 0.82 grams per pound and not the 1.5 grams per pound that you cited.




    Originally Posted by kelly.brandt View Post
    Wonderpug: Why would you try to discredit someone's post. That's not cool, and I noticed you like to be the devil's advocate on this subject. Trying to hurt people's feelings on this forum will not gain you respect.
    I didn't try to discredit him, but rather asked him to provide the source of the information he was asserting, as I've never seen studies conclude such high protein intake provided special benefits.

    Per the above, it looks like SugarFree was wrong in his assertion as he appears to have misread the research.

    And this is why it's important to post citations.


    Originally Posted by kelly.brandt View Post
    Sugarfree1: You are right, there have been studies. But, why waste time trying to find them?
    Because just saying there are studies does a disservice to those that might believe you are reporting accurately.

    Where are those studies?
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    Originally Posted by kelly.brandt View Post
    Why are we focusing on studies? Who cares? Most of the "studies" don't even relate to a hardcore athlete / bodybuilder, so the information contained in the "study" is worthless.
    Not all studies use subjects or protocols that pertain EXACTLY to the goal in question, but they are pieces of evidence nonetheless. Thus they should be taken into consideration, rather than completely dismissed. Ignoring research outcomes would be a bias toward ignorance, just as embracing them as universally applicable would be a bias against individual response.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    That equates to 0.73 to 0.82 grams per pound and not the 1.5 grams per pound that you cited.
    In SugarFree1's defense, he never said per pound; he just said "taking 1.5 grams of protein" and didn't bother to tell us what that number was in regards to.
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    Originally Posted by x-ray vision View Post
    In SugarFree1's defense, he never said per pound; he just said "taking 1.5 grams of protein" and didn't bother to tell us what that number was in regards to.
    Good point.
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    Not all studies use subjects or protocols that pertain EXACTLY to the goal in question, but they are pieces of evidence nonetheless. Thus they should be taken into consideration, rather than completely dismissed. Ignoring research outcomes would be a bias toward ignorance, just as embracing them as universally applicable would be a bias against individual response.
    I didn't say they should be "completely dismissed" or "ignored." I tried to gain muscle mass for years with the same amount of protein that these studies advocate. Only after I upped my protein did I start to grow again. I have always believed in trial and error with your own body....see what works for you. I don't know any big bodybuilders (natural or otherwise) that have been able to keep growing year in and year out without taking in at least 1g protein per pound.

    I concur with with your post, especially the last sentence. I just don't like it when people are treated like they are an idiot...He was just trying to help.
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    In the most recent trial, researchers from Australia's Victoria University looked at the impact of two different levels of protein intake on gains in muscle size and strength in a group of well-trained recreational bodybuilders, all of whom had been training for around five years [6].

    The men were matched for strength and placed into a whey protein or carbohydrate group. In addition to their normal diet, they were told to consume 1.5 grams of the supplement per kilogram of bodyweight per day in three divided doses, one mid-morning, one after training (or mid-afternoon) and one in the evening before sleep.

    For example, an 80-kilogram (176-pound) subject in the whey protein group consumed 120 grams of a supplement containing approximately 103 grams of protein, 6 grams of carbohydrate, and 1.2 grams of fat. The same individual in the carbohydrate group consumed the same dose of a supplement containing 106 grams of carbohydrate and 0 grams of protein or fat.

    Men in the carbohydrate group consumed 0.77 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight (1.7 grams per kilogram) — the same amount recommended by Dr. Peter Lemon based on his nitrogen balance data from the 1980's and 90's.

    Protein intake in the whey group was 1.36 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight (3 grams per kilogram) or 1.6 grams per pound of lean body mass (3.5 grams per kilogram), which was roughly double that of the carbohydrate group.

    At the end of the study, the protein group had gained 2.3 kilograms (5.1 pounds) of lean mass, compared to just 0.7 kilograms (1.5 pounds) in the carbohydrate group.

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