hitting everything once a week or twice...

[onsidekick]

what do you think works better in for growth, mainting, ect. i'm actually on a cut and hate doing cardio so im ditching the 3 days lifting 3 days cardio routine. this is what im thinking-

monday: legs/shoulders
tuesday: chest/tris
wednesday: back/bis
thursday: legs/shoulders
friday: chest/tris
saturday: back/bis
sunday: OPTIONAL abs+basketball

i feel that all the compound lifting (deadlifts on back and bis days bench press on chest/tris day and squats,1 legged squats and BB military press on legs and shoulders day) would be enough to develop some tight abs. if not i can do 100 crunches a day when i wake up. and also i jog a mile a day but i have to, i go to my friends house and were rebuilding a canoe together his house is half a mile away so i jog there, do work and jog back, is running a mile a day going to affect me? thanks for the input guys- inexpierneced noob.

[berkim]

You look like you are doing bodybuilding body-parts. Rather than doing 50 different exercises, do Rippetoes, drink some milk and gain some decent strength+size.

I <3 BB.com

[ighairynutsack]

what do you think works better in for growth, mainting, ect. i'm actually on a cut and hate doing cardio so im ditching the 3 days lifting 3 days cardio routine. this is what im thinking-

monday: legs/shoulders
tuesday: chest/tris
wednesday: back/bis
thursday: legs/shoulders
friday: chest/tris
saturday: back/bis
sunday: OPTIONAL abs+basketball

i feel that all the compound lifting (deadlifts on back and bis days bench press on chest/tris day and squats,1 legged squats and BB military press on legs and shoulders day) would be enough to develop some tight abs. if not i can do 100 crunches a day when i wake up. and also i jog a mile a day but i have to, i go to my friends house and were rebuilding a canoe together his house is half a mile away so i jog there, do work and jog back, is running a mile a day going to affect me? thanks for the input guys- inexpierneced noob.

try an upper/lower or lower/upper push/upper pull style routine for a bit you are young you shouldnt need anything complicated for years to come hit those compound lifts and enjoy your teen hormones for a bit. also you grow while resting not while lifting. take some more days off and play more basketball or get out and have fun more times a week.

[onsidekick]

try an upper/lower or lower/upper push/upper pull style routine for a bit you are young you shouldnt need anything complicated for years to come hit those compound lifts and enjoy your teen hormones for a bit. also you grow while resting not while lifting. take some more days off and play more basketball or get out and have fun more times a week.

so this would be better?
Monday: back/bis
Tuesday:20 mins cardio+abs
Wednesday: chest/tris
Thursday: 20 mins cardio+abs
Friday: legs/shoulders
Saturday: 20 mins cardio+abs

I am just trying to drop body fat ATM, bulk later.

[berkim]

Look no further than Rippetoes here is the link Guide to Novice Barbell Training, aka the Official RIPPETOE-STARTING STRENGTH FAQ

[ighairynutsack]

so this would be better?
Monday: back/bis
Tuesday:20 mins cardio+abs
Wednesday: chest/tris
Thursday: 20 mins cardio+abs
Friday: legs/shoulders
Saturday: 20 mins cardio+abs

I am just trying to drop body fat ATM, bulk later.

personally that just looks like little boy pudginess not fat or anything it will go away when you pack on some mass. or get a little older i looked similar at your age. when i was 170 i looked like a skeleton. and that might be too much cardio+abs. fatloss is all about just eating below maintenance. cardio+abs doesnt do what i think you think it does.

i personally bounce around between...
lower
upper(shoulder focus)
off
lower
upper(chest focus)
off

or
mon-cardio
tue-upper(shoulders)
wed-lower
thur-off
fri-upper(chest)
sat-lower
sun-off


different strokes for different folks

i sometimes even just lift every other day and alternate between upper and lower days.i always take a walk for an hour almost every night though. you dont need to give cardio its own day just do a little bit after lifting or seperated a few hours from your main lifting session. on another note i try to hit everything twice a week just because it works well for me. try some different things out but remember to focus on building strength and hitting compound lifts size will come soon enough. be patient.

[onsidekick]

personally that just looks like little boy pudginess not fat or anything it will go away when you pack on some mass. or get a little older i looked similar at your age. when i was 170 i looked like a skeleton. and that might be too much cardio+abs. fatloss is all about just eating below maintenance. cardio+abs doesnt do what i think you think it does.

i personally bounce around between...
lower
upper(shoulder focus)
off
lower
upper(chest focus)
off

or
mon-cardio
tue-upper(shoulders)
wed-lower
thur-off
fri-upper(chest)
sat-lower
sun-off


different strokes for different folks

i sometimes even just lift every other day and alternate between upper and lower days.i always take a walk for an hour almost every night though. you dont need to give cardio its own day just do a little bit after lifting or seperated a few hours from your main lifting session. on another note i try to hit everything twice a week just because it works well for me. try some different things out but remember to focus on building strength and hitting compound lifts size will come soon enough. be patient.

thanks man, but you havent seen me turned around =p, and yeah my lifts are going up, mostly just in squat but i am dropping body fat, and as far as riptoes, il look into it.

[Heavy_Beats]

You look like you are doing bodybuilding body-parts. Rather than doing 50 different exercises, do Rippetoes, drink some milk and gain some decent strength+size.

I <3 BB.com

Do this.

170lb is too skinny, do you even lift? Get up to 200lb with above quoted program within a year maximum.

[ighairynutsack]

Do this.

170lb is too skinny, do you even lift? Get up to 200lb with above quoted program within a year maximum.

this. get to 190-200ish and double your strength and you wont have a need to cut since you will be already. unless you are extremely overweight cutting weight as a teen is usually a mistake. put those supercharged hormones to use and focus on getting your numbers up mass will follow.

[arian11]

Do this.

170lb is too skinny, do you even lift? Get up to 200lb with above quoted program within a year maximum.

This. Putting on mass will make the same bodyfat look like less while have more muscle. But cutting will make the bodyfat and possibly muscle go down making you just look skinny/fat and not like you lift. 20lbs bodyfat at 170 will be 12%, that same 20lbs bodyfat at 200 will only be 10%. And you will actually look big and like you lift at 200 lbs.

[rbelsito427]

You're 16 just focus on the main lifts, you should be able to grow no matter what, stop over complicating things.

[Achtung]

try an upper/lower or lower/upper push/upper pull style routine for a bit you are young you shouldnt need anything complicated for years to come hit those compound lifts and enjoy your teen hormones for a bit. also you grow while resting not while lifting. take some more days off and play more basketball or get out and have fun more times a week.

Science

personally that just looks like little boy pudginess not fat or anything it will go away when you pack on some mass. or get a little older i looked similar at your age. when i was 170 i looked like a skeleton. and that might be too much cardio+abs. fatloss is all about just eating below maintenance. cardio+abs doesnt do what i think you think it does.

i personally bounce around between...
lower
upper(shoulder focus)
off
lower
upper(chest focus)
off

or
mon-cardio
tue-upper(shoulders)
wed-lower
thur-off
fri-upper(chest)
sat-lower
sun-off


different strokes for different folks

i sometimes even just lift every other day and alternate between upper and lower days.i always take a walk for an hour almost every night though. you dont need to give cardio its own day just do a little bit after lifting or seperated a few hours from your main lifting session. on another note i try to hit everything twice a week just because it works well for me. try some different things out but remember to focus on building strength and hitting compound lifts size will come soon enough. be patient.

Science

this. get to 190-200ish and double your strength and you wont have a need to cut since you will be already. unless you are extremely overweight cutting weight as a teen is usually a mistake. put those supercharged hormones to use and focus on getting your numbers up mass will follow.

BROScience

[onsidekick]

hmmmmp. i got it

monday- squat 5x5, bench press and pushing excercises ( weighted dip push ups close and wide grip bench dumbel press)

tuesday-rest

wednesday squat 5x5 pulling excercise ( BB rows deadlift pull ups, bicep curls ect.)

thursday-rest

friday: squat 5x5 and shoulders (delts and traps) cool?

[JeromeWeinberg]

hmmmmp. i got it

monday- squat 5x5, bench press and pushing excercises ( weighted dip push ups close and wide grip bench dumbel press)

tuesday-rest

wednesday squat 5x5 pulling excercise ( BB rows deadlift pull ups, bicep curls ect.)

thursday-rest

friday: squat 5x5 and shoulders (delts and traps) cool?

why are you opting for an intermediate 5x5 if you're a novice? just do as the previous gentlemen have wisely suggested - do SS until linear progression is no longer possible, and eat lots of food.

[Curls4Gurlz]

Do you want to get stronger, or not?

If not, why are you asking questions in this section?

If so, do starting strength and don't eat crap.

[Heavy_Beats]

why are you opting for an intermediate 5x5 if you're a novice? just do as the previous gentlemen have wisely suggested - do SS until linear progression is no longer possible, and eat lots of food.

He probably does not understand what Starting Strength entails.