If estrogen closes growth plates.....

[DisregardLegs]

Hypothetically speaking, what if you gave a kid a bunch of anti estrogen pills and GH. Growth plates never close - GH stimulates growth...endless growth?

[DisregardLegs]

wat

[Cronoz]

Well I read about some guy who used estrogen blockers and HGH and he gained a lot of height.

[rawrburritos]

you risk enlarging everything with rhgh though

[dopamine72]

I actually think about this a lot.

Get a top male and women BBer to mate. Then feed the kid low dose AI's and LARGE DOSE HGH/PEPTIDES + Myostatin inhibitors.

We really need to do this misc.

[Azn_Asian]

I actually think about this a lot.

Get a top male and women BBer to mate. Then feed the kid low dose AI's and LARGE DOSE HGH/PEPTIDES + Myostatin inhibitors.

We really need to do this misc.

This would be a long term project. It'd be years before we see any solid results

[AssyrianBrah]

This would be a long term project. It'd be years before we see any solid results

i can live with that

[ExEctomorph]

You can have endless hypertrophy but not hyperplasia. So you'll stop brah.

[tetrasarin]

AIs slow growth plate closure but doesn't completely stop it, so it will eventually close either way. I'm planning on running an AI, hopefully my growth plates haven't closed yet.

[Roke]

Hypothetically speaking, what if you gave a kid a bunch of anti estrogen pills and GH. Growth plates never close - GH stimulates growth...endless growth?

Sure. If he was given enough hgh he would develop gigantism and be insanely tall, although he won't go to infinity because of bones limited androgen receptors.

[dixon]

Hypothetically speaking, what if you gave a kid a bunch of anti estrogen pills and GH. Growth plates never close - GH stimulates growth...endless growth?

Estrogen doesn't simply "close" growth plates, it *prematurely* closes growth plates. ie, When someone introduces exogenous testosterone into their body (a teenager juicer) and it aromatises to estrogen significantly, their growth plates may close prematurely. But there is no difference in the estrogen levels of a 14 year old who is still growing and a 17 year old who has his growth plates phused.

[dixon]

By the way, when I have children, if my teenage son shows potential in a sport that requires both height and mass and he agrees and considers the consequences, then I will help put him on a non-aromatisable androgen and low doses of GH. Androgens also increase predicted height. Therefore he would develop muscles and other attributes that would make him outclass his fellow athletes and get more playing time, allowing his ability to snowball. Even if it pays off in a mere 4 year college scholarship, it will have impacted his life insanely well. If it meant a contract into a pro sports league, the choice would have made his life spectacular.

[SwayWay]

google antonio bigfoot silva that's what your head would look like.

[DisregardLegs]

By the way, when I have children, if my teenage son shows potential in a sport that requires both height and mass and he agrees and considers the consequences, then I will help put him on a non-aromatisable androgen and low doses of GH. Androgens also increase predicted height. Therefore he would develop muscles and other attributes that would make him outclass his fellow athletes and get more playing time, allowing his ability to snowball. Even if it pays off in a mere 4 year college scholarship, it will have impacted his life insanely well. If it meant a contract into a pro sports league, the choice would have made his life spectacular.

don't all androgens aromatize to a certain degree.....?

[Anubis18]

It would not be limitless, but yes you would grow taller than you would have naturally. Letrozole is used sometimes in the treatment of boys with very small stature, start it early enough and it will increase the height at which you stop growing. HGH can do the same but would not be worth the price and all the side effects that can come with using it too early in life. As far as androgens, testosterone + AI has also been studied for increasing height, and is effective. But to get the full benefit one would have to use it for quite a while meaning TRT would probably be inevitable. These all only work if you start early enough though.

[sherenk]

Fail?

[hashish]

endless growth??? no.

potential, yes.