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    gimme your top 5 for this league setup

    Start 1 RB, 1 WR , 2 rb/wr flex, 1 qb.

    Point for 50 yards passing , 4 pts tds.

    Point per 25 yards rushing/receiving
    6 pts td.


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    Let's break this down. On a good day a rb/wr breaks 100 yards. Amonst the top 10 RB's they will net 8 td's on average. Amongst the top 10 WR's they will net 6.5 TD's per year. The TD's are very top heavy in talent. Ok, so let's throw WR's out entirely knowing this. RB's can gain ground and air yardage and over the course of a season 1700 total yards is a top, top season. Now a top QB will earn you on average 285 yards a game and two TD's. All of this said, I think QB is clearly the value play here so my list is as follows: Aaron Rodgers, 2)Phillip Rivers 3) Drew Brees 4)Tom Brady 5)Peyton Manning. Don't get tricked into grabbing a RB or WR first because the difference between a top 6 QB and QB 10 is huge in your league.
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    1. Arian Foster
    2. Chris Johnson
    3. Ray Rice
    4. Adrian Peterson
    5. Jamaal Charles

    the settings would make me less likely to burn a 1st or 2nd rounder on a QB.
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    Originally Posted by MooseLaddin View Post
    1. Arian Foster
    2. Chris Johnson
    3. Ray Rice
    4. Adrian Peterson
    5. Jamaal Charles

    the settings would make me less likely to burn a 1st or 2nd rounder on a QB.
    Please explain your thinking. Extrapulate the numbers and there will be a 60 point difference between QB5 and Rb1. That's the QB's advantage. I think if you are giving advice on something that could cost this guy money you should give a detailed reason explaining your thinking.
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    Originally Posted by angstandirony View Post
    Please explain your thinking. Extrapulate the numbers and there will be a 60 point difference between QB5 and Rb1. That's the QB's advantage. I think if you are giving advice on something that could cost this guy money you should give a detailed reason explaining your thinking.
    QB's always end up with the highest points in every league. On default yahoo scoring Vick was #2, Rodgers #3, Brady #4, Peyton Manning #5, Phillip Rivers #6, Drew Brees #7. Doesn't change the fact that RB's dominate the first round of drafts. Josh Freeman was #12, where does he get picked? Ryan #13, Schaub #15... Total points is not how you rate the most "value" on a fantasy draft board atleast that's not what I do. QB's are a much deeper position overall than RB's and the RB's are definitely way more risky outside of the top few every year, which is why I will always have RB's as my top 5 on my board, the varying of the scoring usually doesn't make a difference either. The scoring in this guys league gives QB's even less points, making them even less significant IMO.
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    This is not your typical league. Also, QB is absolutely in no way deep in this league. The difference between the top 6 QB's in this league to the next tier is huge. You want to maximize your chances of getting high yardge and high TD's every week here. Josh Johnson is projected to have a gap of 1000 yards between Rodgers and Rivers. Also at least 10 TD's. Also, the fail rate of a top 5 RB is through the roof from one season to the next. I usually target a RB in the first and second round and wait on QB's, but in this case there is no sound reasoning in waiting on a QB.
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    I should note that I am being very low in the numbers I'm throwing out here, giving the opposite side of the argument the benefit of the doubt in the stats. Josh Freeman is actually projected to throw for 1300 yards less and 12 td's compared to Rivers and Rodgers and the projected gap between QB5 and RB1 is actually well over 100 points. Rivers and Rodgers gap is too large to sound realistic so I'll stay mute on that.
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    Originally Posted by angstandirony View Post
    but in this case there is no sound reasoning in waiting on a QB.
    I will be going RB with the #4 overall. I should have mentioned that In this league the draft history is very heavily trended towards picking RB in the first 2 rounds.

    I do agree that this year I want one of your top 5 QBs listed, but I'm fairly confident at least 2 of them will be left at my 3rd round pick. The top 5 QBs in my league last year (outside vicks short season) were within 11 points of each other. I will be able to see or anticipate the run on QBs so I will gladly wait and take the leftover of the top 5 QBs.

    It will depend how the draft is shaping up, but right now I'm thinkin first three rounds look like this. RB, wr/rb, qb.
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    Do you or do you not use decimal based scoring? That minor difference literally makes a world of difference in this case.

    It turns a league from a low scoring version of a 1QB/1RB/1WR/2 flex in the case of decimal based scoring, to a very complex tiering system without.
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    Originally Posted by ty247 View Post
    Do you or do you not use decimal based scoring? That minor difference literally makes a world of difference in this case.

    It turns a league from a low scoring version of a 1QB/1RB/1WR/2 flex in the case of decimal based scoring, to a very complex tiering system without.
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    Originally Posted by UgotMISClold View Post
    Yes, League uses decimal based scoring.
    Touchdowns are what you are chasing

    In this scoring system,

    A 1000 yard receiver who scores 5 touchdowns.. gives you 70 points
    A 250 yard receiver who scores 10 touchdowns.. gives you 70 points

    That put's the value of the TD's in perspective

    but touchdowns are quite variable.. so I'm boosting the value of guys who are playing in an explosive offense and/or get all of the goalline and/or Red Zone looks

    My top 5 doesn't change as much as much as my tiering of players and picks past the first 6-7 do.. and that being said, a fantasy league isn't won or even necessarily lost in the first round, it's much more important to hit in the later rounds.

    Top 5 in that system? There's so much that would go into projections, for redraft off the top of my head..

    Vick would be in the discussion, Arian Foster, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, possibly Rashard Mendenhall, maybe Calvin Johnson who will probably be a top 3 lock at the WR spot in that scoring system barring health.

    I'd keep an eye on Ray Rice and the goalline situation with him, as his value would probably be boosted into that top 5 range if we expect him to get double digit TD's but I'm not expecting that.. same with Jamaal Charles..
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