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    Originally Posted by HARRYBEAST View Post
    So you have been talking me into hook grip just to wuss out on it yourself?

    I am on the fence myself. I keep going back and forth with whether or not I like it.
    You may talk smack once you hook grip over 505 sir

    Seriously though, I just never felt in a good position with it and I don't have the feel like I could grind out a weight if I was in the position do grind. I gave it 15 weeks on all my working sets....it was a good run.

    Originally Posted by MakeGoBoom View Post
    decent day man. i think hook is a stronger grip in general but i don't really see the huge scare of bicep tear either
    I'm not scared of a tear but I'm not here claiming to be superman either. I have a preexisting injury to it from a strongman contest prep gone horribly wrong.
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    Originally Posted by bigwade800 View Post
    I have a plan...
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    I have a plan...
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    You may talk smack once you hook grip over 505 sir

    Seriously though, I just never felt in a good position with it and I don't have the feel like I could grind out a weight if I was in the position do grind. I gave it 15 weeks on all my working sets....it was a good run.



    I'm not scared of a tear but I'm not here claiming to be superman either. I have a preexisting injury to it from a strongman contest prep gone horribly wrong.
    I know man. I feel weird with it still too, but it used to feel weird to Dead without straps. So I am going to give it some time to decide
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    Yeah just be smart about it. When does your bicep hurt doing deads? Is it at a certain weight or doing reps?
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    Warm Up
    Bike
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    COLD in the gym tonight!!!

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    Just getting some work in...nothing crazy

    I'm going to be switching back to mixed grip (I used it tonight) and squatting in flat soled shoes just to kinda test it out and see how I do. I'm hoping it will help me to sit back more and help me make strides to correcting my lean.

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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    Does it involve shorter cycles?
    We knew this was going to be a marathon. That's what he signed up for. He felt, and some others, due to a week that wasn't full of pr's, etc. that he was off track. He didn't miss a work out, he had a good decline session that week and was less than a 100% going into that week. He let it get away from him. Everything he learned on squat when faced with a grinder, went away, etc. Watching his video from last night, he is clearly stronger, in way better condition.

    So, the long answer is, yes, eventually...we haven't started the real PL training yet.
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    Originally Posted by bigwade800 View Post
    We knew this was going to be a marathon. That's what he signed up for. He felt, and some others, due to a week that wasn't full of pr's, etc. that he was off track. He didn't miss a work out, he had a good decline session that week and was less than a 100% going into that week. He let it get away from him. Everything he learned on squat when faced with a grinder, went away, etc. Watching his video from last night, he is clearly stronger, in way better condition.

    So, the long answer is, yes, eventually...we haven't started the real PL training yet.

    Can't wait to see what PL training you have for Thad. You have done a great job guiding him this far. Oh yeah and Thad did a little of the work to.
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    It will be subtle changes and/or additions.

    As for the hook, I still say it's a better way to pull but, it can take time to really get the groove with it. I have pulled 700 geared with the hook but, even today, after trap and floor pulls, my thumbs were on fire.
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    Originally Posted by colonel_swizzle View Post
    Yeah just be smart about it. When does your bicep hurt doing deads? Is it at a certain weight or doing reps?
    It never actually hurts during deads (now) it used to feel bad afterwards for days. Pulling hook has been good as I can actually straighten out my left arm now.
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    If nothing else, it will allow you to train longer and harder and prevent injury. You didn't seem to have any issue with going back to the alt grip. If I tried the alt grip, I'd crap myself, It feels so off and awkward but, I remind you again, I fooled with this grip for a long, long time.
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    nice lifting boss. I recently went back to hook grip cause all u ****gs made it sound like sooo much fun. It feels a lot more natural to me. Doing mixed grip, I always used underhand grip with my left, and that bicep has always given me trouble.
    But, Ive also never hook gripped the weight your doing
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    Originally Posted by liftingson View Post
    nice lifting boss. I recently went back to hook grip cause all u ****gs made it sound like sooo much fun. It feels a lot more natural to me. Doing mixed grip, I always used underhand grip with my left, and that bicep has always given me trouble.
    But, Ive also never hook gripped the weight your doing
    I think it's good to experiment and see what works best...there are so many variations to stance, grip width, etc. that there is definitely no "one size fits all" for getting strong.
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    you got that snow out your way yet?
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    Originally Posted by liftingson View Post
    you got that snow out your way yet?
    Yeah. We got a little bit. Enough to make people go nuts at least!!
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    Yeah. We got a little bit. Enough to make people go nuts at least!!
    I got 5" of snow this afternoon....shoveling the driveway before farmer's walks tomorrow ought to be fun....
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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    I got 5" of snow this afternoon....shoveling the driveway before farmer's walks tomorrow ought to be fun....
    we ended up with 2-3" here. (twss)
    was enough for everyone except my department to leave work early, and added a few minutes to my commute home.

    my dog loves the snow, it's pretty funny

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    Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 View Post
    we ended up with 2-3" here. (twss)
    was enough for everyone except my department to leave work early, and added a few minutes to my commute home.

    my dog loves the snow, it's pretty funny
    we got about the same as you..our kids love the snow..got a hill across the street they tried sliding down with their boogie board...work well it did not.

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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    Yeah. We got a little bit. Enough to make people go nuts at least!!
    Was it a blizzard??

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    Originally Posted by LoveMyInk View Post
    Was it a blizzard??
    For NE NC....yes.

    For you and Paul it would be just another day of the week.
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    For NE NC....yes.

    For you and Paul it would be just another day of the week.
    It doesn't even snow here anymore

    Was in the teens for a week and now its in the 50s

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    damn bro, you have a lot of raw strength. still looking like a lot of core movement to me out of the hole but you power through it like nothing (still dont know as much about power form squatting as i should). that would topple me.

    how did you hurt your bicep if you dont mind me asking. when i said i dont worry about it it's because i dont feel i pull enough for it to be a concern. i worry more about doing something ot my back or lat randomly
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    gets pinned under 425, comes back a week later and doubles 415.
    you're doing it right.


    chucks FTW

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    Originally Posted by MakeGoBoom View Post
    damn bro, you have a lot of raw strength. still looking like a lot of core movement to me out of the hole but you power through it like nothing (still dont know as much about power form squatting as i should). that would topple me.

    how did you hurt your bicep if you dont mind me asking. when i said i dont worry about it it's because i dont feel i pull enough for it to be a concern. i worry more about doing something ot my back or lat randomly
    I honestly hurt it training like an idiot.

    Cliffs...

    Hit PR dead @ 565

    Try to pull 585 the next week and miss. Did assistance of rack pulls over 600 with no straps then finish with Husafel carries. Tweaked it.

    Stones the following week up to 330 and car deads.

    Take one week off and the compete in a strongman comp.
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    Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 View Post
    gets pinned under 425, comes back a week later and doubles 415.
    Wade's doing it right.


    chucks FTW
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    Awesome work doubling 415!

    shoot man pulling some heavy weight in here no wonder you tweaked your bicep
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    I wish I could double 415

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