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    Originally Posted by ItsWhatIDo View Post
    So since it can't be fixed in 4 years. We should just double our debt, and all is good? That seems to be the plan.
    no. actually more of our debt is due to all the tax cuts on the rich than it is due to the war. and that was Bush, a republican but more importantly a moron.
    edit: at least Obama is making legit efforts. But here is an unfortante truth: no one really knows whats best for this country. if problems arent fixed within a short time then the president will always be blamed/criticized.
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    Originally Posted by Sykonaut View Post
    *....You thought I was serious? Tried to lay the sarcasm on as thick as I could through text form...
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    ITT: A bunch of people who are worth less than 2 million dollars in assets hoping a republican gets elected...

    I never understood how people were so obsessed with voting republican despite the fact that they're not in the tax bracket to benefit. *I don't know how the party does it, but*they're*masterminds and I applaud them for being able to trick the masses into voting for them and helping support the lavish lifestyle I do lol -.-
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    Originally Posted by 2 D View Post
    You don't consider Obama a leftist?

    Could he be further left? Probably.

    Did he sort of move to the center when the dems got annihilated in the midterm elections? Sorta, at least temporarily.

    Did he take an entirely back seat role during the debt crisis negotiations to try and avoid controversy? Absolutely.

    He is no leader, plain and simple. And YES he is too the left of center for sure, all of his major legislature he has purposed and supported has been very left in nature.
    Almost every major change he has proposed has supported the largest of*corporations*in the United States. He is slightly left of Republicans, but right of the centre. He's a modern day "liberal", and a piece of ****. This is coming from a communist.
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    Originally Posted by paulkim9926 View Post
    LOL. obama has done everything his party and the partisan gov has allowed him to do. you guys act like he didnt inherit this problem...
    Everything WRONG he's been allowed to do.

    Thats like saying "DUDE...He's fuked us in the ass as MUCH as they allowed him to man!" Only you just LIKE getting fukd in the ass while we don't.
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    Originally Posted by tential View Post
    ITT: A bunch of people who are worth less than 2 million dollars in assets hoping a republican gets elected...

    I never understood how people were so obsessed with voting republican despite the fact that they're not in the tax bracket to benefit. *I don't know how the party does it, but*they're*masterminds and I applaud them for being able to trick the masses into voting for them and helping support the lavish lifestyle I do lol -.-
    because liberalism has been associated with young retarded kids who voted for obama because they felt like they could make history rather than choose an apt president. ty fox. you have made conservatism seem like the white man's party when its really the rich man's party

    Originally Posted by Sandman33 View Post
    Everything WRONG he's been allowed to do.

    Thats like saying "DUDE...He's fuked us in the ass as MUCH as they allowed him to man!" Only you just LIKE getting fukd in the ass while we don't.
    you're making it sound like he's trying to **** us in the ass... just because his bills didn't magically poof the economic crisis away doesn't mean he isn't trying to fix it.
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    Almost every major change he has proposed has supported the largest of*corporations*in the United States. He is slightly left of Republicans, but right of the centre. He's a modern day "liberal", and a piece of ****. This is coming from a communist.
    You're a communist?

    Well at least you're an educated one that knows what he's talking about.

    Mussolini described Fascism as the merger of the corporation and the state....and that describes Obama perfectly. If you want to call him anything call him a fascist.
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    Originally Posted by jaredmt View Post
    no. actually more of our debt is due to all the tax cuts on the rich than it is due to the war. and that was Bush, a republican but more importantly a moron.
    edit: at least Obama is making legit efforts. But here is an unfortante truth: no one really knows whats best for this country. if problems arent fixed within a short time then the president will always be blamed/criticized.
    So we should just tax the rich 100%, and that would solve everything? Nothing to do with entitlement spending, or lower income levels only putting their hands out?

    What effort has he made. He extended all of Bush's policies.
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    Originally Posted by ItsWhatIDo View Post
    So we should just tax the rich 100%, and that would solve everything? Nothing to do with entitlement spending, or lower income levels only putting their hands out?

    What effort has he made. He extended all of Bush's policies.
    So we should give tax breaks to the rich and tax the middle and lower class 100%?
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    Originally Posted by falco150 View Post
    ITT: many people still believe in "change"

    a de facto fascist with a commie heart.


    if there weren't so many restraints on his power, i'm damn sure we'd be slouching towards moscow right about now.
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    Originally Posted by Sandman33 View Post
    You're a communist?

    Well at least you're an educated one that knows what he's talking about.

    Mussolini described Fascism as the merger of the corporation and the state....and that describes Obama perfectly. If you want to call him anything call him a fascist.

    LOOOOL.................
    merger of corp and state.
    so.... obama wants you to go into the supermarkets and take whatever you want?
    the main different between fascism and socialism is that while lenin believed that communism would happen like a dominoe effect, mussolini wanted more violent reform....
    what goes through your mind? do you think you can be right in an argument without sufficient knowledge? wtf?
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    Originally Posted by ItsWhatIDo View Post
    So we should just tax the rich 100%, and that would solve everything? Nothing to do with entitlement spending, or lower income levels only putting their hands out?

    What effort has he made. He extended all of Bush's policies.
    You don't have to tax them 100% just take back some of the tax exemptions they currently enjoy.
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    Originally Posted by paulkim9926 View Post
    LOOOOL.................
    merger of corp and state.
    so.... obama wants you to go into the supermarkets and take whatever you want?
    the main different between fascism and socialism is that while lenin believed that communism would happen like a dominoe effect, mussolini wanted more violent reform....
    what goes through your mind? do you think you can be right in an argument without sufficient knowledge? wtf?
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    Originally Posted by jaredmt View Post
    i agree, this guy scares me because people actually like him and he would absolutely destroy the economy. he wants to remove personal income tax? really?? really..... really!?!?
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    Originally Posted by ItsWhatIDo View Post
    So we should just tax the rich 100%, and that would solve everything? Nothing to do with entitlement spending, or lower income levels only putting their hands out?

    What effort has he made. He extended all of Bush's policies.
    it would help.
    if you've ever taken a politics class you would know that the MAIN power of any government is taxation.
    And he doesn't want to extend the bush tax policies. there is a majority of republicans in congress.
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    in b4 we need more spending to fix the economy

    in b4 we all have to do our part


    in b4 the rich need more taxes

    in b4 we are on our way to recovery

    in b4 there is no recession

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    Originally Posted by OhioStateBucki View Post
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    loool. eliminate federal reserve. please tell me. what is the federal reserve and what are its functions?
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    Originally Posted by OhioStateBucki View Post
    Ron Paul

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    It's a shame people are too busy with ******** and other BS to read a god damn book. I can't imagine it'd be that difficult to at least read one book every 2 months about politics/economics or something of value and not Harry Potter/Twilight.
    Its a shame youre so uneducated you think this will solve our problems.
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    Originally Posted by Ramrod2615 View Post
    Saying nothing isnt an option...

    "If somebody was born for the job of rulershipd they'd at least do a better job" Strong rulership

    Nothing about this arguement should even be read. You sir are ill informed.
    You are still ruled. Some guy in some corporate office somewhere owns your soul. Regardless of what industry you work in, somebody owns your life, and any superiors you answer to are basically like a duke or other low level nobility to you. You don't even own the land you live on, you just pay below market rent to the government in the form of property tax.*

    Nothing has changed since feudalism except in the most superficial of ways, I don't know why anybody even pretends anymore. You are a serf, I am a serf, everybody here is a serf and your votes do nothing.
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    this is what i imagine the white house does everyday
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    Originally Posted by paulkim9926 View Post
    it would help.
    if you've ever taken a politics class you would know that the MAIN power of any government is taxation.
    And he doesn't want to extend the bush tax policies. there is a majority of republicans in congress.
    If you taxed the rich 100% it wouldn't do anything. What makes you think the government wouldn't blindly spend that money like they have already done?

    The government was established to protect our country. Not destroy it through taxing the rich. And making $250k doesn't make you rich, especially if you live in NYC, DC, or Southern Cal.
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    Originally Posted by Sandman33 View Post
    You're a communist?

    Well at least you're an educated one that knows what he's talking about.

    Mussolini described Fascism as the merger of the corporation and the state....and that describes Obama perfectly. If you want to call him anything call him a fascist.
    Yes, i'm a communist.*

    I would describe Obama as*pretty*much a Fascist.*
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    Originally Posted by ItsWhatIDo View Post
    So we should just tax the rich 100%, and that would solve everything? Nothing to do with entitlement spending, or lower income levels only putting their hands out?

    What effort has he made. He extended all of Bush's policies.
    let me explain this to you. *The top earners of our country dont have to pay an income tax. *if youre making 1 billion dollars annually and are taxed at 10% then it would be 100 million bucks in tax dollars. *Now times that by the numbers of the highest earners in the US and you could see how NOT taxing the rich is stupid. *Its not like multi-millionaires are will be taxed 90% or something. *financially, its retarded to*impose*a 28% tax the guy making 200k when you could tax the multi billionaire 10% and get a whole lot more.*
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