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WASHINGTON (AP) — A top White House adviser is blaming the downgrade of the U.S. credit rating on tea party Republicans, whom he says were unwilling to compromise on how to reduce the federal debt.
The adviser to President Barack Obama, David Axelrod, tells CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday that the decision by the Standard & Poor's credit agency to downgrade the U.S. from AAA to AA+ for the first time was strongly influenced by weeks of standoff between Democrats and Republicans over the debt.
Axelrod calls the action, in his words, "a tea party downgrade" and says it's clearly on the backs of lawmakers who were willing to see the country default to get their way.
Axelrod also criticized GOP presidential candidates for not speaking up in favor of compromise.
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08-08-2011, 07:37 AM #1
White House adviser blames tea party for downgrade
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Obama's White House has the worst PR out of any sitting President I can remember. S&P said that the USA needed to eliminate at LEAST $3 trillion in future spending in order to NOT be downgraded. If was up to the Democrats, the debt ceiling would have been raised with $0.00 in spending cuts!!
Obama's got some really dishonest staff working really really hard to spin every story to make him look blameless.Jesus/Gators/ManUtd/Investing
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08-08-2011, 08:01 AM #7
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08-08-2011, 08:02 AM #8
S&P specifically states reason for downgrade was Republican unwillingness to increase taxes and revenues.
Obviously it wasn't the Tea Party that did this, as they have very little political influence. The Dems should simply be blaming the Republicans and repeating over and over again exactly what S&P stated in their report.
Although the way to a better economy and increased revenues can be debated ad nauseum, the reasons for the downgrade cannot, as they were specifically spelled out in the report.
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08-08-2011, 08:13 AM #11
Why do you retards argue against facts? It's not like this is some sort of opinion we can actually argue about.
In explaining their decision Standard & Poor’s cites both the decision by Republicans in Congress to turn the debt ceiling into a political football and the Republicans intransigence on tax increases. Some excerpts from the release:
[...]The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America’s governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy.
[...]It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options.
[...]The act contains no measures to raise taxes or otherwise enhance revenues, though the committee could recommend them.
[...]Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act.
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08-08-2011, 08:16 AM #12
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08-08-2011, 08:20 AM #14
HTF is making the debt ceiling a political issue, and trying to correct the problem a contributor the the problem rather than taking on more debt?? That does not even make sense.
And your exact statement was... "S&P specifically states reason for downgrade was Republican unwillingness to increase taxes and revenues." *That is not a fact, so I will*argue*it. *The downgrade was specifically due to debt/GDP ratio, and our unwillingness to do anything about it.
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The democrat plan that the republicans rejected had the 4 trillion in deficit reduction with both spending cuts and tax increases. The republicans unwillingness to go with it is why we were downgraded. You can read the S&Ps update and they specifically call out the pledge to not increase revenue as one of the primary reasons.
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." – John F Kennedy.
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08-08-2011, 08:30 AM #18
OMG rogues post was beyond stupid..
In explaining their decision Standard & Poor’s cites both the decision by Republicans in Congress to turn the debt ceiling into a political football and the Republicans intransigence on tax increases. Some excerpts from the release:
[...]The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America’s governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy. that statement does not shine the light specifically on anyone party, but rather both of them. *If the Dems would have followed the Tea Party on their plan, the the cuts would have been enough to avoid the downgrade
[...]It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options. Again, the Dems were*against*sufficient*cuts as well
[...]The act contains no measures to raise taxes or otherwise enhance revenues, though the committee could recommend them. The act also did not contain enough cuts, because the Dems were against it.
[...]Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act.They also reinforcted that they are not serious about real cuts.. Thanks Dems
By the way, your post is nothing more than a C&P that is some herp derp analysis of the report that is floating around the internet. You're dumb ass needs to learn to think for yourself.
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08-08-2011, 08:33 AM #19
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08-08-2011, 08:42 AM #20
No they didnt. They stated they preferred the $4trillion deal. They did not specify $4trill in cuts had to be made to avert a downgrade.
If I am wrong, please link to the press release or report supporting your statement. I await your reply.
You normally make reasonable posts...try reading the report. One of the reasons they listed for the credit downgrade was due to political instability over the debt ceiling.
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08-08-2011, 08:45 AM #21
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08-08-2011, 08:47 AM #24
The quotes are directly from the report. What you and many people fail to realize is that cuts in spending alone will not get our deficit low enough to prevent the debt/gdp ratio from climbing, and we can increase revenue without raising taxes.*
The S&P report is clear that the two parties inability to bridge the divide between them was a major influence on their decision to downgrade. IMO the biggest hurdle to bridging this gap is a handful of freshmen legislators who have taken a bogus oath to not increase the debt.*
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Pls go, you are completely wrong. This downgrade has been decades in the making, with overspending on social security, medicare, redundent Government programs and entitlments. The Tea Party wanted TRUE cuts to Government spending - not these fake "future spening cut", nor did they want to take MORE MONEY from it's citizens. The US Government debt is so far out of control, even 40%-50%-60% tax rates (which would absoltuely destroy our economy) wont solve our problems, only spending reform will!
Low taxes, freedom, minimal government and the American dream is what made our small country into a super power in 200 years - Not more taxes, more medicare, more social security, more wastful goverment programs and handouts. - These things didn't turn us into a super power, they've erroded the core of what made our country great.Jesus/Gators/ManUtd/Investing
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08-08-2011, 08:57 AM #30
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