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    I was being serious in previous posts, I am in line for a "cut" anyway.....
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    Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    I am staying away. I don't get it either. I love working out, I wanna get bigger, but the risks people take for muscle is crazy IMO. For the young people that say this about fertility...people do change their minds.

    I just figured a post use study could stop the contraversy.
    I totally agree, a study in humans period would be nice as well

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    I was being serious in previous posts, I am in line for a "cut" anyway.....
    There are plenty of other incredibly effective compounds you can use that would preserve muscle and help shed pounds...
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    Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    Has there been any studies post use?
    Our product is part ursolic acid and part oleanolic acid. They are very similar compounds with very similar effects.
    Have a look at this study:

    The effect of oleanolic acid on sperm motion characteristics and fertility of male Wistar rats

    In the study, the rats that received oleanolic acid were unable to impregnate the lady rats during the time they were taking the OA, but as soon as the OA was removed, they all knocked up their rat girlfriends.
    Treated males failed to impregnate females, whereas control and oleanolic acid withdrawn males achieved 100% pregnancies.
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    Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Our product is part ursolic acid and part oleanolic acid. They are very similar compounds with very similar effects.
    Have a look at this study:

    The effect of oleanolic acid on sperm motion characteristics and fertility of male Wistar rats

    In the study, the rats that received oleanolic acid were unable to impregnate the lady rats during the time they were taking the OA, but as soon as the OA was removed, they all knocked up their rat girlfriends.
    Do you have any on ursolic acid? Do you have any on humans?
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    Thanks for the effort and that study, but I will wait until more information is out before thinking about using. Just wanna play it safe.
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    I totally agree, a study in humans period would be nice as well


    There are plenty of other incredibly effective compounds you can use that would preserve muscle and help shed pounds...
    Ok, I am totally confused. Isn't UA in apples? So a person shouldn't eat too many apples? I'm not quite getting the code red. Can you please draw me a picture of your concerns with it cuz I would definately like to know as much as possible...

    EDIT: I have been googling everything I can find on it too and haven't found anything detrimental "yet" in them.
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Do you have any on ursolic acid? Do you have any on humans?
    UA and OA work by the same mechanism. There aren't any studies on humans and UA (except in vitro studies).
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    Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    I am staying away. I don't get it either. I love working out, I wanna get bigger, but the risks people take for muscle is crazy IMO. For the young people that say this about fertility...people do change their minds.

    I just figured a post use study could stop the contraversy
    I don't blame you. I never understood why people will risk so much just for a chance to enhance their appearance. Almost every new hype that comes out, claimed good for you turns out to cause super serious problems 10 years later, hence all the recalls. I say go natural or go home.
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