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    Niacin supposedly boosts natural growth hormone(No bro science)

    Original Creator is a guy who goes by the name Hakker, if you like this please thank him
    http://hakker.betaboard.net/t29-method-1-mens

    So was reading this forum about how people can grow taller from stretching and this one routine for young adults involves niacin supplementation, which increases GH levels thus resulting in growth, some people grew up to 3 inches taller. The guy does alot of researcher and has alot of success.*http://hakker.betaboard.net/

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    A just-published study in Archives of Internal Medicine (Guyton, et al, 2000) confirms my long-held belief in the superiority of niacin (vitamin B3) as a lipid-lowering agent. A proprietary timed-release version of niacin (Niaspan) was compared to the pharmaceutical drug gemfibrozil (Lopid). The study involved 399 male and female subjects ranging in age from 21 to 75, all of whom had low levels of HDL (high density lipoproteins—“good cholesterol”) less than 40 mg/l. Other criteria for inclusion in this study were triglycerides less than 400 mg/l, and LDL (low density lipoproteins—“bad cholesterol”) less than 260 mg/l. Niacin was administered once daily at bedtime. The niacin dosage was begun at 375 mg/day, and then increased progressively over the course of the study, and maintained at a level of 2,000 mg nightly for 8 weeks. The duration of the study was 16 weeks. Subjects took an aspirin as-needed to prevent flushing. Gemfibrozil 600 mg was administered twice daily over the entire 16 weeks.
    Niacin increased HDL levels over 25%, compared to an increase of 13.3% due to gemfibrozil. Gemfibrozil actually raised LDL (the “bad” cholesterol, remember?), while niacin slightly lowered this fraction. Gemfibrozil lowered triglyceride levels by 40%, compared to a 30% decrease from niacin. Thus, niacin resulted in an overall improvement in the lipid profile which exceeded that induced by gemfibrozil (Fig. 1).
    However, niacin favorably altered several other cardiovascular risk factors as well. Apolipoprotein (a) levels were significantly (20%) reduced by niacin, but were not altered by gemfibrozil. Both substances reduced serum apolipoprotein (b) levels by the same amount. Fibrinogen, a third risk factor, was reduced by niacin, but increased 6-9% by gemfibrozil. The authors concluded, “Niaspan, 2,000 mg, had a significantly better effect on fibrinogen levels than gemfibrozil.”
    These results support many previous studies on the use of niacin as a lipid-lowering nutrient. For example, in the Coronary Drug Project, which enrolled men with a previous myocardial infarction, niacin use resulted in a 26% decrease in second non-fatal heart attacks over a six-year period, and an 11% decrease in total mortality after 15 years of followup (Canner, et al, 1986) (Fig. 2).
    Niacin Stimulates Growth HormoneWhile extolling the benefits of niacin, one frequently overlooked “side effect” is that niacin is a powerful releaser of growth hormone (Quabbe, et al, 1983) (Fig. 3). Quabbe and colleagues administered 500 mg niacin intravenously to humans, and noted a dramatic rise in growth hormone. In a second phase of their study, they simultaneously administered an infusion of fatty acids. Note that the fat completely blunted any rise in growth hormone. The practical take-home lesson of this study is that anyone using niacin as a growth hormone stimulant should take it on an empty stomach (glucose and insulin also inhibit growth hormone, as well as fatty acids).


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    This is the main guy who setup this routine, his site requires registration:http://hakker.betaboard.net/t29-method-1-mens
    Anyways the M.E.N.S. (Melatonin.Exercise.Niacin.Sleep) routine has gotten good success,young people with*thier*growth plates still open have grown 3+ inches from it
    Quoted from his site:
    In order to achieve a GH pulse from Niacin it is necessary to take the Flush version, Not the non-flush version as it will not work and will be a waste of time! Here's what you should look out for:Flush - Correct*NiacinNiacin as Vitamin B3Niacin as Nicotinic AcidNon-Flush - IncorrectNiacinamideInositol hexanicotinateAny other NiacinTimed release Niacin - Must chew upHow much do I take?
    Taking niacin for prolonged periods causes the liver to get used to it and requires you to increase the dosage, but increasing dosage above 500mg will damage your liver a lot!So to get around this, we have two options:1) Take 250mg - 500mg every odd day upon waking up. Then eat breakfast 3 hours later. Crucial.2) Take 250mg upon waking up as above. And then Take another 250mg 3 hours after supper but before bed. Every odd day.*
    When do I take it?In order for the Niacin to properly work, it is recommended to take on an empty stomach, 3+ hours after eating or in the morning upon waking up. After taking the niacin, you cannot eat for another 3 hours so it is best to take it at night before bed or morning right after waking up.
    Take every odd day, take melatonin every odd day before sleep, Melatonin helps decrease excess estrogen and promotes good sleep.
    Sprint for 5 minutes every other day, sprinting increases GH.
    Sleep 8-10 hours a day.



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    THE FORMULA FOR HEIGHT INCREASE (final version):
    M + E + N + S
    Melatonin (3mg before bed) + Exercise (high intensity resistance, high intensity sprinting) + Niacin (500mg/day on empty stomach) + Sleep (8hrs +)Cliffs:
    1. Increase growth hormone
    2. Reduce estrogen. Estrogen seals the growth plates and causes the cessation of growth, although some is required for a pubertal growth spurt.(This for in terms of height, only works if your still a teen/young adult with your growth plates still open)
    3.Niacin has shown to quadruple GH for a short period of time
    4. For niacin to work one should take a flush-version (non*flushing*doesn't*work) in the morning and eat breakfast 3 hours later, food inhibits Niacin from producing GH
    5. Teens who go on this routine have grown 3+ inches.

    Routine (Cliffs):
    1.Take a flush version of niacin(250-500mg) in the morning , do not eat for 3 hours, non flush/timed release niacin will not work.*http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846
    2.Take niacin every other day, 4 weeks on 2 weeks off so you dont get used to it.
    3.3mg Melatonin before bed , helps get rid of excess estrogen and promotes deep sleep
    4. Sprint 5 minutes 3 times a week, increases GH by a ton.
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    cliffs damn it not reading all that bs
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    pls tell me this is legit and its cheap.
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    Originally Posted by SoccerBrahh View Post
    pls tell me this is legit and its cheap.
    Hey man, take a look into this.

    Soviet Sports Scientists are legit as fuk and basically all modern training is built off of research done back then.

    This is called "The School of Height".

    http://flexcart.com/members/elitefts...d=222&pid=2488


    Other than that, make sure you sleep 10-12 hours a night. That is probably the single best way to increase GH production. Other than that, get plenty of dietary fat and vegetables/fruits.
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    Take Niacin 2 hours before lifting. Become a god?? WINNING
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    I supplement with niacin frequently...haven't grown an inch in years...just FYI.
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    A doc was recently telling me about how, for the sake of growth hormone boosting, you should NOT trigger an insulin spike until an hour after a workout... info in the OP backs it up
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    Originally Posted by CCAurora View Post
    A doc was recently telling me about how, for the sake of growth hormone boosting, you should NOT trigger an insulin spike until an hour after a workout... info in the OP backs it up
    yo brah, I sent you a pm earlier
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    Originally Posted by SoccerBrahh View Post
    pls tell me this is legit and its cheap.
    It is both. You are still 15, get on this sh!t.

    Start up with 100mg then up it all the way till 500mg/day. Do it every other day or 5 days on 2 days off, it's up to you. Make sure you get the real NIACIN, not flush free.
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    Originally Posted by UnivLifter View Post
    I supplement with niacin frequently...haven't grown an inch in years...just FYI.
    You're already done growing. Even growth hormones wouldn't help you grow.... your growth plates are closed.*
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    OP's right, also l-ornithine

    check out C-bols profile

    also, it does increase GH levels, but not even a fraction of what pure GH does
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    Cliffs added

    This is safer because the GH is naturally produced by your body, not sythetic
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    Originally Posted by Ilovemyamazingboo View Post
    It is both. You are still 15, get on this sh!t.

    Start up with 100mg then up it all the way till 500mg/day. Do it every other day or 5 days on 2 days off, it's up to you. Make sure you get the real NIACIN, not flush free.
    holy fuk im getting this. I take it in the morning?
    Originally Posted by Ballr4Life View Post
    Hey man, take a look into this.

    Soviet Sports Scientists are legit as fuk and basically all modern training is built off of research done back then.

    This is called "The School of Height".

    http://flexcart.com/members/elitefts...d=222&pid=2488


    Other than that, make sure you sleep 10-12 hours a night. That is probably the single best way to increase GH production. Other than that, get plenty of dietary fat and vegetables/fruits.
    bout to check out that link but are you srs with 10-12 hours? The most ive ever slept i think was 9 and my body's natural sleep rythem is 7.5 more or less.
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    Originally Posted by IEatPowerRacks View Post
    You're already done growing. Even growth hormones wouldn't help you grow.... your growth plates are closed.*
    Very probable. But it's also probable that the growth hormone raising effects of Niacin are negligible. There are PLENTY of things, from doing very high rep leg extensions to even going for short evening walks that have been shown to raise growth hormone levels. However, in most cases, the spike is either temporary or not large enough to cause significant differences in height. Niacin supplementation might fall under that category as well.
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    Originally Posted by SoccerBrahh View Post
    holy fuk im getting this. I take it in the morning?

    bout to check out that link but are you srs with 10-12 hours? The most ive ever slept i think was 9 and my body's natural sleep rythem is 7.5 more or less.
    No take it on an empty stomach (2+ hours of not eating). You will get a flush feeling, makes you look like you've burnt yourself tanning. This will last a while, but this is GOOD.

    Edit: I think you aren't supposed to eat for 1-2 hours after taking it as well, to optimize results. Not sure ask OP

    @ OP what does the graph illustrate, I don't really seem to understand. What happens around 150 minutes that is so interesting? Theory behind it? Yes read it but still don't get it
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    This is the main guy who setup this routine, his site requires registration:
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    Anyways the M.E.N.S. (Melatonin.Exercise.Niacin.Sleep) routine has gotten good success,young people with*thier*growth plates still open have grown 3+ inches from it

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    In order to achieve a GH pulse from Niacin it is necessary to take the Flush version, Not the non-flush version as it will not work and will be a waste of time! Here's what you should look out for:
    Flush - Correct*
    NiacinNiacin as Vitamin B3Niacin as Nicotinic Acid
    Non-Flush - Incorrect
    NiacinamideInositol hexanicotinateAny other Niacin
    Timed release Niacin - Must chew up
    How much do I take?

    Taking niacin for prolonged periods causes the liver to get used to it and requires you to increase the dosage, but increasing dosage above 500mg will damage your liver a lot!
    So to get around this, we have two options:
    1) Take 250mg - 500mg every odd day upon waking up. Then eat breakfast 3 hours later. Crucial.
    2) Take 250mg upon waking up as above. And then Take another 250mg 3 hours after supper but before bed. Every odd day.*

    When do I take it?
    In order for the Niacin to properly work, it is recommended to take on an empty stomach, 3+ hours after eating or in the morning upon waking up. After taking the niacin, you cannot eat for another 3 hours so it is best to take it at night before bed or morning right after waking up.

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    Got my x rays, growh plates havent closed

    Where do i get flush free niacin? Amazon?

    How do i take it?/cycle/use it?

    Also what else to promote growth? Wanna be 5'10, docs says ill hit 5'9
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    i buy this at a pharmacy or online? also i cant buy that book so any other realistic things i can do to really boost growth would be appreciated.
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    @BeastMode you would not want to get flush free.. and read instructions my above post and OP's posts
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    Originally Posted by BeastMode101 View Post
    Got my x rays, growh plates havent closed

    Where do i get flush free niacin? Amazon?

    How do i take it?/cycle/use it?

    Also what else to promote growth? Wanna be 5'10, docs says ill hit 5'9
    Information added in OP, niacin can be found at GNC, i checked target and walmart but they only carry non flush niacin. The guy who created the *routine guarantees I can grow an inch from this.*

    No links to gnc but this kind will work*

    What i Take*http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846
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    Niacin is great for giving to your friends at parties.... they'll start tingling and turning red and wonder why you poisoned them...
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    Originally Posted by lincolnmkv View Post
    Niacin is great for giving to your friends at parties.... they'll start tingling and turning red and wonder why you poisoned them...
    This!!! I did it to my friend last year

    800mg of Niacin

    sht got real lol
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    Originally Posted by SoccerBrahh View Post
    i buy this at a pharmacy or online? also i cant buy that book so any other realistic things i can do to really boost growth would be appreciated.
    dude, if you're actually serious about getting taller, that book is probably the best purchase that you can make. It's 25$ dude, not like it's going to break the bank
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    I take a 5 hours energy shot extra strength everyday, I buy boxes of them from Costco. They contain 200% Niacin.

    They also lower bad*cholesterol.*
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