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    Bulking and bodyfat: I want to gain 20lbs...

    Across the next 10 months or so, gaining 0.5lbs per week, 2lbs a month.
    In order to do this I plan to eat at around a 250 calorie surplus.
    Will my bf% be much higher after 10 months of 0.5lb/week gains?*
    Say I was lifting heavy and doing cardio, at a 250 cal surplus, and I started at 13%. Where would I end up do you think?
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    Your body fat will likely increase unless your body can manage energy storage well (which is possible given your age). The worse you train/eat/sleep, the worse your bulk will be. You don't have to do everything perfectly to improve, but the better you do these things the better your results will be.

    You sound like you have the right idea though. Lift hard, do some cardio, and eat at a calorie surplus. Just make sure you get your essential amount of proteins and fats. Try not to overdo it on carbohydrates, but don't be scared of overdoing it either.
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    I dont believe in bulking....WHY SHOULD I LOOK LESS ATTRACTIVE for parts of the year?
    Because bulking actually helps the production of lean body mass?

    Also, if you bulk correctly (10-20% above your maintenance), fat gains will be minimal.
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    I dont believe in bulking....WHY SHOULD I LOOK LESS ATTRACTIVE for parts of the year?
    Seriously bro. You gotta be real careful with bulking if youre looking to get stronger. Bulk for a week or two then go on a hard month cut afterwards. Looking less attractive is a scary thing.
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    Yes I mean I know body fat WILL increase, it's inevitable. it's just my bodyfat percentage I'm worried about. Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    I dont believe in bulking....WHY SHOULD I LOOK LESS ATTRACTIVE for parts of the year?
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    You should probably bulk, cut, bulk, cut, bulk.

    2 month cycle of each.
    I ended up cutting for a year and a half... umm look at my profile picture.
    Look at my profile picture....
    I strongly advice you not to turn into the monster ughly looking figure that you just witnessed.
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    Originally Posted by peteyboy1015 View Post
    Because bulking actually helps the production of lean body mass?

    Also, if you bulk correctly (10-20% above your maintenance), fat gains will be minimal.
    yeah thats fine but some people go too far. I should have probably worded my comment better.
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    i feel like you should have some experience to lifting before you consider bulking... I mean 17 years old? Im done with this topic though
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    i feel like you should have some experience to lifting before you consider bulking... I mean 17 years old? Im done with this topic though
    2 lbs a month is an excellent goal. Out of curiosity, what would you have the OP do?
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    I dont believe in bulking....WHY SHOULD I LOOK LESS ATTRACTIVE for parts of the year?
    Bulking = eating at a caloric surplus
    eating at a caloric surplus = the only way to add muscle

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    Originally Posted by FunkymonkAW View Post
    Bulking = eating at a caloric surplus
    eating at a caloric surplus = the only way to add muscle

    So you're against building muscle? Awesome.
    EATING IS THE ONLY WAY TO ADD MUSCLE????? You get a SMH from me
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    EATING IS THE ONLY WAY TO ADD MUSCLE????? You get a SMH from me
    says the cool guy that said:
    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    I dont believe in bulking....WHY SHOULD I LOOK LESS ATTRACTIVE for parts of the year?
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    Originally Posted by lovingit View Post
    2 lbs a month is an excellent goal. Out of curiosity, what would you have the OP do?
    The only issue with aiming for your maximum muscular potential so precisely is that water/weight fluctuations make it almost impossible to estimate progress accurately. You can end up spinning your wheels for months before realizing you're right where you started and all the time and money you put into improving your body has been wasted.
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    As long as I don't gain more than 1% bodyfat my jawline isn't gonna go anywhere. I feel skinny and have maintained my weight for months, so I'm just thinking fuk it - I want to gain some muscle now.

    It'll be winter anyway so I can afford to gain a little fat, but I don't want to out of preference.

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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    your jaw line is not as profound and you look less attractive.....The bodybuilder look is not attractive to women. And im sorry for my screaming haha
    Hey look, it's opposite day!


    No but seriously, I'm not into guys with bony jaws and I find guys with a good bit of muscle on their frames quite attractive. You are making some odd claims.
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    When you increase your bodyfat your jaw line is not as profound and you look less attractive.....Im not against bulking... im just not for it either. I dont want to look like a bodybuilder. The bodybuilder look is not attractive to women. And im sorry for my screaming haha
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    There are egotistic people out there who go on bulking phases and gain 30lbs and say "I gained 30 lbs of muscle!!!" then they cut and realize they gained about 5lbs. EGOS. There the same people that are still doing crunches, side bends, and leg extensions............
    But if I control my bulk and gain only 2lbs a month, I'm hardly going to gain loads of fat.. it should be minimal. The only reason why I haven't bulked properly sooner is because I was scared to gain any fat at all, so this bulk is going to be pretty careful anyway
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    But if I control my bulk and gain only 2lbs a month, I'm hardly going to gain loads of fat.. it should be minimal. The only reason why I haven't bulked properly sooner is because I was scared to gain any fat at all, so this bulk is going to be pretty careful anyway
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    Originally Posted by lovingit View Post
    Hey look, it's opposite day!


    No but seriously, I'm not into guys with bony jaws and I find guys with a good bit of muscle on their frames quite attractive. You are making some odd claims.
    You think Jay Cutler looks better than ryan reynalds? Extreme example i know but im just trying to make the point that a lean look is better than a bulky look and that bulking is not necessary for muscle gain unless your you want to be ronnie coleman or jay cutler (again extreme i know)
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    You think Jay Cutler looks better than ryan reynalds? Extreme example i know but im just trying to make the point that a lean look is better than a bulky look and that bulking is not necessary for muscle gain unless your you want to be ronnie coleman or jay cutler (again extreme i know)
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    The person wanting to bulk here is 17 years old...is that really necessary? CMonnn (Chris Tucker Voice)
    Eating at a small caloric surplus is great for adding lean muscle AND WILL NOT automatically turn you into a huge bulky guy that girls arent attacted to.

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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    You think Jay Cutler looks better than ryan reynalds? Extreme example i know but im just trying to make the point that a lean look is better than a bulky look and that bulking is not necessary for muscle gain unless your you want to be ronnie coleman or jay cutler (again extreme i know)
    You trollin? I seriously can't tell. Gotta be.

    And actually, the OP is primed to put on muscle due to his age. If he eats at a slight surplus, he won't gain much fat. Why do you think "bulking" automatically means big fat gains (or mutant muscles)? That's simply not true.
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    Originally Posted by lovingit View Post
    You trollin? I seriously can't tell. Gotta be.
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    The person wanting to bulk here is 17 years old...is that really necessary? CMonnn (Chris Tucker Voice)
    17 is the perfect age to bulk. You can add alot of muscle mass in a small time frame due to high test and being a growing teen. He's in a great situation to put on size
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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    Remember when everyone thought fats were bad? It took time for people to discover the truth....there are people that still avoid whole eggs and think reduced fat peanut butter is bettter than a full fat natural one. Its going to take time but im telling you (just my belief) bulking is not necessary....Why do you believe in bulking? I mean im never too biased or one sided to view others beliefs even if they dont reflect my own
    WTF are you talking about? How else are you going to add muscle? Unless you're a COMPLETE NOOB to lifting, you cannot gain muscle not eating at a caloric surplus (a caloric surplus = a bulk).

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    Originally Posted by jmr8u View Post
    Remember when everyone thought fats were bad? It took time for people to discover the truth....there are people that still avoid whole eggs and think reduced fat peanut butter is bettter than a full fat natural one. Its going to take time but im telling you (just my belief) bulking is not necessary....Why do you believe in bulking? I mean im never too biased or one sided to view others beliefs even if they dont reflect my own
    Bulking does not mean going on a "see food" diet, it means eating more than your burn.
    There is a difference between a controlled surplus and a massive gorge-fest.
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    Originally Posted by FunkymonkAW View Post
    Bulking does not mean going on a "see food" diet, it means eating more than your burn.
    There is a difference between a controlled surplus and a massive gorge-fest.
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    My my my...that jaw line is terribly unattrative haha jk. I think the 2 lbs a month is a great goal. I personally don't bulk (I do a lot more cardio than lifting) but i have good friends who do and it works great for them and when they do they don't add on tons of fat...they might develop a small layer of "fat" but after a week of two of strictly watching their diet (and i don't mean dieting to lose wieght) and eating much healthier...it disappears. I'm not against bulking...i've seen it work great...but I've also seen it put on a lot of fat on guys 'cause they eat everything in sight without any consideration to their diet and hit the gym and expect no consequences of their nutrition...and 17 is a great age to start building muscle...my brother is 16...turning 17 in a couple months and works out avidly...he also eats correctly but he has put on almost ten pounds of muscle over this summer and looks great....as for jaw lines and attrativeness....people are entitled to their own opinions haha

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