Jack3d - an all to deadly crash? please read (srs)

[BipolarBrah]

if you have any mood disorders, please read.



I recently bought the preworkout supplement jack3d. I take it 3-4 times a week, 1 scoop (1 serving) each use. I have been taking it for 2 weeks.

First off, let me tell you that this is by far the greatest preworkout supplement I've tried. It gives clear headed focus, energy, and a great pump - everything you could want in a PW supp. I think everyone has heard of the infamous 'jack3d crash'... you may or may not get physical symptoms akin to any bad caffeine crash.. exhaustion, aching, slow movement (for me at least).

Before I go on I'd like to tell you I'm very prone to stims, and I realize that some may not even be affected my jack3d..

Important:
jack3d may not just give you a physcial crash, but a mental/emotional crash as well... Let me warn you now, if you have any mood disorders, be wary of taking jack3d. Just a mere 3 hours after a workout, I usually notice a great change in my mood.. I get defensive, sad, feelings of despair.. thoughts of suicide.. granted I have a history of mood disorders, but I've noticed a jack3d crash will trigger some of my depression. This crash for me can last up to 4 hours from the start time of my workout! (that's 7 hours after my initial workout)

I know this isn't a likely side affect of jack3d, so this may not be applicable to most of you.. but I would really like some feedback from some of you. I've been thinking about stopping taking jack3d. the emotional turmoil just isn't worth the energy I get during my workouts

[ChrisLB]

Good post. Your will and motivation should be the only thing giving you the energy to work out. Getting dependent on a supplement will greatly have negative effects. I highly dis recommend prework out supplements.

[JeremyDB]

inb4 jack3d causes suicide

[aec32094]

inb4 jack3d causes suicide

do people think it does?

[BipolarBrah]

Good post. Your will and motivation should be the only thing giving you the energy to work out. Getting dependent on a supplement will greatly have negative effects. I highly dis recommend prework out supplements.

yeah I agree I suppose.. but I already have a love for working out.. I starting using preworkouts to break strength plateaus and magnify my motivation to create a better workout

[BipolarBrah]

inb4 jack3d causes suicide

do people think it does?

I don't know.. I can tell you now that I have suicidal thoughts at least twice a week during my crashes. this doesn't mean jack3d is to be blamed.. imo it means that taking jack3d in-conjunction with a mood disorder may be dangerous

[woahhh]

Idk why no one ever thinks of this.. Work out at night! If your crashing from a PWO just work out at night so you can sleep at night right after you lift

[BipolarBrah]

Idk why no one ever thinks of this.. Work out at night! If your crashing from a PWO just work out at night so you can sleep at night right after you lift

good idea, this works for the physical symptoms.. but jack3d doesn't necessarily just cause a physical crash, it can cause an emotional one as well. if anyone has a mood disorder, they knew it's a lot harder coping with thoughts of despair at night time..

read my OP

[woahhh]

good idea, this works for the physical symptoms.. but jack3d doesn't necessarily just cause a physical crash, it can cause an emotional one as well. if anyone has a mood disorder, they knew it's a lot harder coping with thoughts of despair at night time..

read my OP

Take 2 scoops so you get a physical crash too? maybe some sleeping pills. If jack3d makes you suicidal you should probably just stop taking it lol

[DamianWeber]

I've heard a couple of things like this about jack3d from multiple people.

[MagnusEro]

DMAA can also cause erectile dysfunction. The risk is very low, but I'm not going to risk.

[T00thus]

I've heard a couple of things like this about jack3d from multiple people.

It's dat dere 1,3 DMAA. This stuff makes me act like I'm on crack. I also become hyper aggressive.

[BipolarBrah]

Take 2 scoops so you get a physical crash too? maybe some sleeping pills. If jack3d makes you suicidal you should probably just stop taking it lol

this of course, I plan on stopping it. I'm crashed right now and let me tell you, I have never felt so f**king bad.. it's gonna be hard to let a 3/4 tub of jack3d go unused but it's really not worth it. I really want to finish it, but I guess I'll give it to a friend or something.

I've heard a couple of things like this about jack3d from multiple people.

so I'm not alone, good

[SoE3]

Really? Im usually the most relaxed guy, but i consider myself almost bipolar in going through cycles of small/ big ego

































































































































































































Ive been taking jack3d every training sesh (3-4 times a week) and had no problems so far, been using it for about a month, except for staying up to 8 am the first time i took it.

[babylover]

No whey! Apparently taking an adrenal stimulant which leads to spikes in cortisol is going to have a negative effect on people with cortisol dependent mood disorders. No ****.

[Ethzz]

i tried jack3d for a while. did not have any mood changes, and it felt great.

also tried hemo, no3, c4, white flood, and 1mr none of them compared to jack3d.

but the best by far is Mesomorph. use it everyday, no crash, no side effects, no jittery feelings. just a smooth clear mind and tons of rushing blood to the muscles , extra strength +reps

[Kingmarchil]

this of course, I plan on stopping it. I'm crashed right now and let me tell you, I have never felt so f**king bad.. it's gonna be hard to let a 3/4 tub of jack3d go unused but it's really not worth it. I really want to finish it, but I guess I'll give it to a friend or something.

so I'm not alone, good

trust me its from the geranium (1,3 dimeth) that crash you so hard after your workout, exact same thing happens to me.. i workout like a king..so focused n happy etc.. and after the workout very good sense of well being but 30mins-1hr later i crash hard and get emotional n sad, depressed..just like what you described.

also same thing happens to me from Oxyelite pro..it has 1,3 in it too but the emotional swings were more dramatic...i cried once while on it (srs)

[BipolarBrah]

No whey! Apparently taking an adrenal stimulant which leads to spikes in cortisol is going to have a negative effect on people with cortisol dependent mood disorders. No ****.

I've taken other pre-workouts without this side affect. are you saying jack3d is the only supp to spike cortisol levels?

i tried jack3d for a while. did not have any mood changes, and it felt great.

also tried hemo, no3, c4, white flood, and 1mr none of them compared to jack3d.

but the best by far is Mesomorph. use it everyday, no crash, no side effects, no jittery feelings. just a smooth clear mind and tons of rushing blood to the muscles , extra strength +reps

I'll have to look into that supp, thanks for the post.

trust me its from the geranium (1,3 dimeth) that crash you so hard after your workout, exact same thing happens to me.. i workout like a king..so focused n happy etc.. and after the workout very good sense of well being but 30mins-1hr later i crash hard and get emotional n sad, depressed..just like what you described.

also same thing happens to me from Oxyelite pro..it has 1,3 in it too but the emotional swings were more dramatic...i cried once while on it (srs)

shieeeet.. I guess from the posts it must be the 1,3 dimeth

[CanadianKush]

for to get the crazy feeling that everyone goes on about took me 4 scoops and ended up crashing in the middle of my workout. jacked usually just makes me tired. i have depression but jacked doesnt trigger any mood swings for me.

EDIT: some good non stim pre's are pumpbol, ultima, hemavol and bodyoctane.

[Mr.NoPrint]

1,3 dimeth and caffeine are not good for mental-illness-brahs.
Ive had similar problems mainly when I didnt cycle preworkout supps off for about 9 month straight...
1,3d is like synthetic adrenaline. When you have a disorder you already struggle with larger than normal cortisol levels. Stims just exacerbate it.
Overstim and its worse again.

If youve got issues its best not to use it. Im back on it again though and feeling ok because im dosing right [more scoops =/= better effect] and I cycled off it for 2 months because it did get really bad.
Im only back on it because a cracked up gym experience is just helping me get back in the gym. Im coming off overtraining and literally did not want to be in the gym. By taking it I enjoy working out more and hoepfully ill get hooked on the gym again before I get hooked on 1,3dimethyl.

[SienZ]

It's dat dere 1,3 DMAA. This stuff makes me act like I'm on crack. I also become hyper aggressive.

DMAA is very similar to Amphetamine, that may be the reason

Now, i live in Denmark, it's illegal to sell, and it contains Ephedrine wich will get you a positive drug-test, but only for contests. But you are still able to import it so far. It has just been illegal to sell and use in Sweden aswell, because of the side-effects it may cause.

I wouldn't use it. Especially not if i had pshyoclogical problems.

[BipolarBrah]

1,3 dimeth and caffeine are not good for mental-illness-brahs.
Ive had similar problems mainly when I didnt cycle preworkout supps off for about 9 month straight...
1,3d is like synthetic adrenaline. When you have a disorder you already struggle with larger than normal cortisol levels. Stims just exacerbate it.
Overstim and its worse again.

If youve got issues its best not to use it. Im back on it again though and feeling ok because im dosing right [more scoops =/= better effect] and I cycled off it for 2 months because it did get really bad.
Im only back on it because a cracked up gym experience is just helping me get back in the gym. Im coming off overtraining and literally did not want to be in the gym. By taking it I enjoy working out more and hoepfully ill get hooked on the gym again before I get hooked on 1,3dimethyl.

interesting, thanks for sharing your experience

DMAA is very similar to Amphetamine, that may be the reason

Now, i live in Denmark, it's illegal to sell, and it contains Ephedrine wich will get you a positive drug-test, but only for contests. But you are still able to import it so far. It has just been illegal to sell and use in Sweden aswell, because of the side-effects it may cause.

I wouldn't use it. Especially not if i had pshyoclogical problems.

this really hit home. thanks for the post, very enlightening

[azzzy]

I am on my second jar of Jack3d. I noticed recently that I started feeling depressed after the workouts. It wasn't happening during the first month, if not longer. Perhaps it started after I upped the dose to 2.5 scoops (I'm 200 lb.). One thing I found that after I eat a good meal - especially one rich in carbs - the depression goes away. It's hard to get it started, but once you work through the malaise and get your ass up to cook the meal and eat it - generally the bad mood disappears. I remember when I tried fat-burners about 10 years ago - they had an even worse effect on me. I was constantly depressed and borderline suicidal. Jack3d is not as bad. Anyway, try eating a good meal (when you feel depressed) - it might help.

[MyAvatar]

It makes me highly irritable at times. I think thats normal if you're going from feeling great to feeling not so great tho

[jbball92]

about 2 months ago I was at my friends house and used some of his jack3d before a workout, the workout was awesome, but we got high after, and the weed in cmbination with jack3d made me feel like i was gunna die lol

[gameingkine]

Jack3d is great just finished off my first box and orderd my second.. only had 1 problem with it and thats if u push yourself to like past what you can do physically u may get home and just passout for a few hours but its only*happened*to me once so i couldve just been me. Jack3d is EpiX

[unknown007]

I THOUGHT MY PENOR WAS SHRINKING AND BROKEN!!!!lol glad i found this out.i just purchased a new lil tub and i'm 2days in, guess i'm finishing it and not purchasing again.weird thing is my cousin left a tub before and my penor was always the same but i guess this ones more potent o.O.i dont have crashes, bad thoughts or depression (i usually get these when i'm bored in general or got no way to release energy), i do feel high though, as if im floaty.i LOVE stimulants and i think that's why i like this stuff, one weird thing is stimualnts put me in a good positive mood, then after go back to normal >..< gonna switch to WHITE FLOOD or w.e. next.if it gives you suicidal thoughts then completely stop it before it gets worse or in other words cop with it and think positive.

im a hyper person in general.

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