Who actually thinks Obama will lose in 2012

**kalifornian** · 07-31-2011, 03:27 AM

seriously

**Dan916** · 07-31-2011, 04:01 AM

I think a male candidate can beat him. I think Romney will beat him. If its bachmann she'll scare away the independents. But really its hard to guess.

**Shortfuze** · 07-31-2011, 05:34 AM

I think Obama will resign even before the 2012 elections.

**reyalp** · 07-31-2011, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by kalifornian

seriously

i see no reason they couldn't repeat 2004.

either way, we all lose. either we get some ****bag republican or we keep obama. that's like choosing Hep-C or Syphilis.

**flairon** · 07-31-2011, 05:42 AM

He has had a huge amount of opposition since he took office not just from legal peers, but from every day people. I'd say the chance of him getting re-elected are slim to none.

**cavymeister** · 07-31-2011, 06:24 AM

It all depends on who the republicans come up with. Honestly, it's the Republican's election to lose.

**Lord_Lemon** · 07-31-2011, 07:16 AM

Elmer Fudd could win a 2012 election against Obama.

**Judgment** · 07-31-2011, 07:20 AM

He better not win again. I already plan to key every car that has an "Obama '12" bumper sticker on it.

**Sodao** · 07-31-2011, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Judgment

He better not win again. I already plan to key every car that has an "Obama '12" bumper sticker on it.

notsureifsrs

**Das Gildenmeister** · 07-31-2011, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by reyalp

i see no reason they couldn't repeat 2004.

either way, we all lose. either we get some ****bag republican or we keep obama. that's like choosing Hep-C or Syphilis.

More like gonorrhea and herpes…

I’ll take a socially fascist republican that will really have no effect on our leftward momentum, over a fiscally retarded democrat that will do long-term damage.

**tentex87** · 07-31-2011, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon

Elmer Fudd could win a 2012 election against Obama.

really? Why do you think that? You don't think a vast number of minorities will vote for Obama? You don't think he's got a ton of money to campaign with again?

**Streetbull** · 07-31-2011, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by kalifornian

seriously

By Nov of 2012, the economy should be way worse than it is now -- our credit rating being cut to AA, state and municipal employees being fired (450,000 this year alone), prices really beginning to take off from the soon to be enacted QE III. Unemployment should be officially 10.5% or higher by then too.

People will begin to see that there actually are consequences to electing an inexperienced naif who should have been kept in the classroom. They will go for someone with gravitas -- Rick Perry comes to mind; or a hard-nosed realist like Chris Christie.

**tentex87** · 07-31-2011, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by cavymeister

It all depends on who the republicans come up with. Honestly, it's the Republican's election to lose.

Explain why you think this. Does Romney not have a healthcare plan similar to the dreaded Obamacare?

**tentex87** · 07-31-2011, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by Streetbull

By Nov of 2012, the economy should be way worse than it is now -- our credit rating being cut to AA, state and municipal employees being fired (450,000 this year alone), prices really beginning to take off from the soon to be enacted QE III. Unemployment should be officially 10.5% or higher by then too.

People will begin to see that there actually are consequences to electing an inexperienced naif who should have been kept in the classroom. They will go for someone with gravitas -- Rick Perry comes to mind; or a hard-nosed realist like Chris Christie.

Exactly. Good luck getting those guys into office.

**Streetbull** · 07-31-2011, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Shortfuze

I think Obama will resign even before the 2012 elections.

He's far too egotistical to do that. Besides, all of his actions indicate that he is disconnected from reality -- passing a trillion dollar health care bill and 10 years of trillion+ deficits...he's a kook.

**Lord_Lemon** · 07-31-2011, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by tentex87

really? Why do you think that? You don't think a vast number of minorities will vote for Obama? You don't think he's got a ton of money to campaign with again?

I could type out a lengthy post on various points on why I feel this way but I'll just make a long story short and say the biggest reason is that his voters will be staying home.

**Tekkendo** · 07-31-2011, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Streetbull

He's far too egotistical to do that. Besides, all of his actions indicate that he is disconnected from reality -- passing a trillion dollar health care bill and 10 years of trillion+ deficits...he's a kook.

and claims with a straight face that he is saving money with those..... in addition to creating/saving millions of jobs...

Of course, this is the same guy who spent 20 years with a hate preacher who yells God damn America, but never heard the hatemonger said anything bad... *shrug*

this is the same guy who criticized Bush policies to sneak into the WhiteHouse, and then sheepishly continued on many of the same policies he criticized... *shrug*

this is the same guy who voted against raising the debt limit claiming that it is a sign of bad leadership, but now wants to raise it by many times more.... *shrug*

What a hypocritical lying piece of.........democrat

**saloman** · 07-31-2011, 07:59 AM

I think he will be reelected if simply because there are no good alternatives. The GOP is more tea-party/bat-**** crazy than ever before.

**e_smith** · 07-31-2011, 08:05 AM

depends... if dumb phucks like these show up to the voting booths, who knows.....

**Sodao** · 07-31-2011, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by e_smith

depends... if dumb phucks like these show up to the voting booths, who knows.....

you could do that with any candidate (and i'm pretty sure that has been done with most candidates in the past 10 or so years)

**cavymeister** · 07-31-2011, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by tentex87

Explain why you think this. Does Romney not have a healthcare plan similar to the dreaded Obamacare?

If the republicans come up with a decent candidate they'll win easily. If they put up another democrat light, they'll easily lose.

**T150** · 07-31-2011, 09:51 AM

I don't see Obama having too much trouble with what the GOP have lined up.

**leafs43** · 07-31-2011, 09:55 AM

A startling stat is that no president has been re-elected with an approval rating less than 50%.

Obama is just above 40%.

So just going by past results, Obama seemingly doesn;t have a chance.

**Streetbull** · 07-31-2011, 10:04 AM

Republican Opponent, in debate: "Mr. President, could you detail for us your accomplishments in office the past 4 years?"

...crickets....crickets....then, Obama: "Well...uh...George Bush was...uhhh...and then we...uhhh...our troops came...and I closed Git...uhhh..."

**T150** · 07-31-2011, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by leafs43

A startling stat is that no president has been re-elected with an approval rating less than 50%.

Obama is just above 40%.

So just going by past results, Obama seemingly doesn;t have a chance.

Bush averaged 43% shortly before relelection.

Obama's current avarage is 46.

..And it looks like they have something else in common. Obama looks to be facing a republican John Kerry (romney).

**leafs43** · 07-31-2011, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by T150

Bush averaged 43% shortly before relelection.

Obama's current avarage is 46.

..And it looks like they have something else in common. Obama looks to be facing a republican John Kerry (romney).

Nope, he was right around 53% according to Gallup

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm

**urdaddyishere** · 07-31-2011, 10:13 AM

who actually thought he would get elected in 2008? The 2008 election made me realize that the voters of this country do not vote based on the issues or candidate background. Because of that, I would say anything is possible no matter who is involved.

**T150** · 07-31-2011, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by leafs43

Nope, he was right around 53% according to Gallup

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm

"Averaged"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...gacy/timeline/
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ush-poll_x.htm

I remember when gallup had Obama at 51, while rasmussen has him at 42.

**leafs43** · 07-31-2011, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by T150

"Averaged"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...gacy/timeline/
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ush-poll_x.htm

I remember when gallup had Obama at 51, while rasmussen has him at 42.

Nope. Need 50% around election day and maybe a week or two leading up to it.

If people don't approve of you at this time, they don't show up and vote for you.

**Fist-Of-Freedom** · 07-31-2011, 10:25 AM

I think he it a two term president. I also think the debt ceiling won't be passed this Tuesday on purpose and for a couple days there will be major panic. Then once again, everyone will throw there principles out the window and beg for QE3. Obama comes swooping in as the savior, "saving the country".

That's what I would do anways... if I were a spineless goon too.

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