You are a MORON. Absolute MORON.
You do NOT hit the same muscles at even 20% of the same intensity of the Squat or Deadlift with your garbage routine.
You are deadlifting & squatting once a week.
NOT 3 TIMES.
I'm sorry
SHEIKO / SMOLOV...the Programs that are creating 800-1,000pound Squat/Deadlifters is better than your lousy 17 year old terrible "herp derp" brain.
Get out of here.
Wow, no wonder you are such an idiot..
Telling me CHEST/BACK/LEGS/SHOULDERS whatever bs is better than squat/deadlift/bench 3x a week.
What a joke...
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07-29-2011, 01:23 PM #31
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07-29-2011, 01:26 PM #32
So, you're saying your triceps know when you are benching, compared to when your doing tricep isolation exercises?
Lol wat? Muscles don't know many things. They DO, however, know if they are getting worked. That's about it.
So tell me, please. Which routine is better?
The one where muscles get worked 2x-3x a week?
Or the one where muscles get worked 2x-3x a week?
Ps, I never said splits were better. Only that they are equal.
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07-29-2011, 01:28 PM #33
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07-29-2011, 01:28 PM #34
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07-29-2011, 01:31 PM #35
No. I actually made a post, and you DODGED it.
Please demonstrate to me how your CRAP 5 day split hits:
#1) Your Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Abdominals, Lower back + more at the *SAME HEAVY INTENSITY* as squatting 3x a week.
Now, do the same with DEADLIFTING.
Now, do the same with BENCH PRESS 3x a week.
Can't?
Peace.
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07-29-2011, 01:32 PM #36
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07-29-2011, 01:33 PM #37
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07-29-2011, 01:35 PM #38
Squat hits quads , hamstrings, glutes, lower back
Bench hits chest,triceps,shoulders
Deadlift hits quads,hamstrings,glutes,lower back
I posted:
Chest:
Bench pressing movements
Fly movements
Back:
Row movements
Pull up movements
Deadlift movements
Shoulders:
Pressing movements
Raising movements (front, rear, etc)
Legs:
Squatting movements
Deadlift movements (sldl, etc)
Arms:
Benching movement
Dip movement
Rowing movement
Curls
On a split,
Chest would get hit twice (chest day, arms day)
Upper back would get hit twice (back day, arms day)
Lower back would get hit twice (back day, leg day)
Shoulders would get hit three times (Shoulder day, chest day, arms day)
Legs would get hit twice (legs day, back day)
Triceps would get hit three times (chest, shoulders, arms day)
Biceps would get hit twice (arms day, back day)
Do you have comprehension issues brah?
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07-29-2011, 01:51 PM #39
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07-29-2011, 01:52 PM #40
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07-29-2011, 01:58 PM #41
NO. YOU DO NOT HIT THE SAME MUSCLES 3x A WEEK .
YOU DO ***NOT***
Comprende ENGLISH???
Nowhere in your routine do you hit the same MUSCLES as SQUATS 3x a week, nor would it come anywhere CLOSE to the same intensity/hypertrophy as the squat would provide.
JUST STOP.
STOP
STOP
STOP
*!@()#()!@#()!@#()!
YOUR ROUTINE IS NOT BETTER THAN SHEIKO OR SMOLOV. NOT EVEN 10% close
BYE
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07-29-2011, 01:58 PM #42
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07-29-2011, 02:00 PM #43
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07-29-2011, 02:01 PM #44
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07-29-2011, 02:02 PM #45
The only muscle that doesn't get hit nearly as hard as the rest would be quads. And for that it's a simple solution of adding a squatting movement on another day.
Herp derp, that was hard.
Basically, you're comparing hitting legs 2x a week to 3x a week. And we all know (or atleast should) that there is little to difference in that.
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07-29-2011, 02:03 PM #46
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07-29-2011, 02:04 PM #47
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07-29-2011, 02:04 PM #48
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07-29-2011, 02:04 PM #49
Ok.
Go tell every single Olympic Lifter, Power Lifter, Sheiko program, and Smolov program followers that hitting legs 2x a week is not better than 3x , or 4x.
I am laughing so hard right now.
Tell you what "Buddy",
Go follow the Smolov Routine please.
When you gain +100pounds on your squat in 8-12 weeks, come back to me and tell me your 5 day split was superior
Bye
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07-29-2011, 02:07 PM #50
So what you're saying is 2x a week is inferior to 3x a week?
http://forum.body-fitness.nl/The-inf...y-m500296.aspx
This is the very study that people like Jarekd, b1g, bruno, etc praise. Guess what it says?
For hypertrophy, studies suggest that training two or three times per week is superior to training one time per week, even when volume is equal. However, there doesn't appear to be a benefit of three sessions per week over two.
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07-29-2011, 02:08 PM #51
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07-29-2011, 02:09 PM #52
So, where are your studies that prove 3x is better than 2x per week?
Ps: I don't give a **** about strength , I'm arguing for hypertrophy.
edit: Especially considering this a bodybuilding forum, of course we would be talking about hypertrophy.
Power lifting section.. go back to it
edit2: It's pretty retarded of you to start arguing about strength when OP was asking about hypertrophy.
Brah.. just go.
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07-29-2011, 02:14 PM #53
I'm not even going to bother explaining about the Central Nervous System learning to recruit more muscle fibers with fast switch movements.
You have wasted enough of my time,
There is a reason that people at the Olympics who weigh 160pounds, and don't look like they have ANY muscle clean and jerk 400+ pounds.
Do you know why?
Because muscle hypertrophy does NOT constitute strength.
The same reason why the 220 pound ripped guy at the gym with massive muscles is struggling to deadlift 275, while I am 175 deadlifting 315 x10 with no problem while looking smaller.
All he did was train for hypertrophy/muscle size. There is nothing wrong with this, the principles of Myofibular & Sarcoplasmic Hyperatrophy.
However, I can pull much more than him because I have been Deadlifting 2x a week, Squatting 3x a week for ~ 5 months; and my body has learned how to utilize the muscles through the CNS.
Instead of taking information from me and wasting MY TIME and everybody elses for your IGNORANT brain.
Go do some research about how Olympic Athletes, Powerlifters and others train for strength.
Do you know why Mothers who never touched a weight in their life can suddenly pull up a 2,000lb car just enough to take their little baby stuck under it out?
Your Central Nervous system can do it, it just needs to be forced to recruit the muscle fibers enough.
I'm done..just done.
You're right..
Sheiko / Smolov Routine / Powerlifters/ Strength Atheletes + olympic weightlifters are all wrong.
Your garbage 360 deadlift is right. God knows how much you weigh & how long you even lifted to attain that ...
Probably years and weighing 200+pounds
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07-29-2011, 02:15 PM #54
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07-29-2011, 02:29 PM #55
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07-29-2011, 02:33 PM #56
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07-29-2011, 02:34 PM #57
Idiots calling idiots idiots. Only on bodybuidling.com. You heard it here first, folks.
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