I hate tipping people for doing a job they are PAID to do...

[GotHostBr]

How about this...

pay the ****ing employees more money so we don't have to tip them?


It's especially worse when the restaurants encourage the tipping too..

[Tex24]

please stop posting...permanently

[Eyesthetics]

I actually agree with you... but since you negged me earlier

**** you

[chessgeeksam]

How about this...

pay the ****ing employees more money so we don't have to tip them?


It's especially worse when the restaurants encourage the tipping too..

how about it's up to the customers' discretion based on how well the employees do their job? the whole point of not paying them more is so that they will (ideally) make what the deserve in terms of their customer service and work ethic.

why is this so hard for people to understand?

[sofakingswole]

So go eat at mcdonalds or any other establishment where service isnt a priority

[kevinl215]

then your food would cost more kunt. (im a bussboy btw)

[syddak1llakyd]

How about this...

pay the ****ing employees more money so we don't have to tip them?


It's especially worse when the restaurants encourage the tipping too..

poor/lower class people will absolutely agree with you

[GotHostBr]

how about it's up to the customers' discretion based on how well the employees do their job? the whole point of not paying them more is so that they will (ideally) make what the deserve in terms of their customer service and work ethic.

why is this so hard for people to understand?

when you work, its expected for you to work your best. thats what they are paid to do.

Then I am supposed to already reward them for doing their job?

NO!

[vaako12]

inb4 page 10+

[Lunu]

We don't tip here and food prices are greatly increased to cover the cost of paying for employees. To top it off, the service is awful in comparison to the US.

[waitwat]

lol i dont really mind most the times the tips are like 10 bucks lul
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[tk217]

then your food would cost more kunt. (im a bussboy btw)

Doubtful. The reality is these establishments got away with screwing you over.

[John L]

[CdtCox]

inb4 mr pink

[SRSmiscerIZsrs]

no one forces you to tip anything, if you dont your a cheap dbag though.

tip based upon service received not because you are obligated too. ive given huge tips for great service (30-40%) and ive given terrible tips to prove a point (5%)

[plzhelpme]

Mr. Pink

[craig84]

customers will absorb the costs of higher wage rates through meal prices. in the end you will pay the same just with ****tier service. you are the same person who will be bitching when your food takes a half hour to get to you and you cannot get a re-fill for ****, all because the place you are eating at is understaffed because instead of having 20 servers making 3 dollars an hour, they have 6 making 10. now the servers no longer have an incentive to be fast and get a table turnover because that wont effect their wages. think outside the box for a second

[irasceris]

Why don't people understand this? It's extremely simple.

You get to directly control how much the servers get paid, instead of the restaurant charging you more and paying them a flat wage. This incentivizes good service to every single guest.

They're supposed to get the money for the work either way; this way ensures they're not a dick to you, ever.

[SniXSniPe]

Doubtful. The reality is these establishments got away with screwing you over.

Doesn't mean they still wouldn't do it.

Just look at To-go prices. They tend to be slightly more at most restaurants. Of course, this is also factoring in for boxes/bags/etc., but the reality is many restaurants would charge more.

The national minimum wage for servers is 2.13 an hour IIRC, and the majority follow that rule trying to make as much profit as possible. Raising prices due to an increase in server pay would most likely be a response from all these restaurants.


also, you don't tip well for ****ty service

[tk217]

customers will absorb the costs of higher wage rates through meal prices. in the end you will pay the same just with ****tier service. you are the same person who will be bitching when your food takes a half hour to get to you and you cannot get a re-fill for ****, all because the place you are eating at is understaffed because instead of having 20 servers making 3 dollars an hour, they have 6 making 10. now the servers no longer have an incentive to be fast and get a table turnover because that wont effect their wages. think outside the box for a second

Don't believe this.

If these people are paid a reasonable wage - they're paid a reasonable wage. They will work regardless of tips at that point. If they offer ****ty service they may be fired and more than likely will be.

I'd much rather a ****ty waitress get fired than just get a bad tip.

[sofakingswole]

Doubtful. The reality is these establishments got away with screwing you over.

Any business will increase product costs when direct labor costs increase. You think they would contnue to account wages for waiters at $3.50/hr (or around there) when they are paying them $10+/hr. I think not

[CoreMaster75]

please stop posting...permanently

this

[dassivemick]

what happens if u dont tip, like if a forienger comes in etc

[chessgeeksam]

when you work, its expected for you to work your best. thats what they are paid to do.

Then I am supposed to already reward them for doing their job?

NO!

tell that to anyone else in a position where their income fluctuates based on performance (from a valet to a corporate CEO)

this is why you are red >.>

[Brosidius]

I actually agree with you... but since you negged me earlier

**** you

lol, but did his neg even do anything to you except add a red dot on your cp?

If you get negged by a guy thats deep into the red, shouldn't that positively increase your rep points?

[tk217]

Doesn't mean they still wouldn't do it.

Just look at To-go prices. They tend to be slightly more at most restaurants. Of course, some restaurants also charge for boxes/bags/etc., but the reality is many restaurants would charge more.

The national minimum wage for servers is 2.13 an hour IIRC, and the majority follow that rule trying to make as much profit as possible. Raising prices due to an increase in server pay would most likely be a response from all these restaurants.


also, you don't tip well for ****ty service

I see no difference in to-go prices?

If they do - do this - they'll end up seeing less business as a result. This is basic economics.

[vaako12]

fuuukkk and it finally begins

here we go ladies and gents. hold the bar tight.

its gonna be one wild ride.

[wilson33]

when you work, its expected for you to work your best. thats what they are paid to do.

Then I am supposed to already reward them for doing their job?

NO!

totally agree. This is why there is no tipping is Aus, its a ridiculous concept.

[tk217]

Any business will increase product costs when direct labor costs increase. You think they would contnue to account wages for waiters at $3.50/hr (or around there) when they are paying them $10+/hr. I think not

Then they will lose business as a result. There is an equilibrium here and it will be met. As price goes up -> demand goes down.

[BalkanLifterr]

poor/lower class people will absolutely agree with you

You joking? GF works at a resturant, she says it's always the rich people rolling in fukking cash that are greedy with their money and wont tip.