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    I'll stick with BioForge.


    I trust Biotivia, and willingly pay for quality.
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    Disclaimer: The above post is my personal opinion and does not represent the official position of any company or entity.

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    Originally Posted by fibercarbon View Post
    i wouldnt send any of my money to this shady website.. the person who posted the 10% off code on suppdeals is using the "Earn Cash/Product" method on that shady website...



    stay away!
    So some people still have working brain cells apparently. Good.

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    Originally Posted by RebuildMe View Post
    So some people still have working brain cells apparently. Good.
    took 2 seconds of research to figure out someone named Andrew was trying to make some profit off of this ! lol

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    Daniel,

    You have immense patience... Good luck with these idiots.
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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    PrimaVie:
    Lead (Pb) ≤ 0.002%
    Arsenic (As) ≤ 0.0005%
    Mercury (Hg) ≤ 0.0001%

    Sensoril:
    Lead ≤5ppm
    Arsenic ≤2ppm

    EuryGold:
    Lead 0,0002ppm
    Arsenic not detected
    Mercury not detected
    Cadmium not detected
    underdosed or what! will take many years to have any effect
    Tell your Girlfriend i said thanks....

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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    I'll stick with BioForge.


    I trust Biotivia, and willingly pay for quality.
    Thank you sir.

    Originally Posted by Da Main Man View Post
    underdosed or what! will take many years to have any effect
    LOL
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    Originally Posted by fibercarbon View Post
    took 2 seconds of research to figure out someone named Andrew was trying to make some profit off of this ! lol
    Meh...further proof that idiot is either trolling or working for/with that Andrew.

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    lol that looks like ****

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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    It's not advertised as an "anabolic" supplement of course, if that's what you mean. Guess what? It won't add 20lbs of LBM to your frame like an heavy AAS cycle. Shocking, I know.

    What its ingredients are proven to do is boosting testosterone, modulating cortisol, increasing ATP and even improving power. Guess what? People are interested in these effects and it does exactly what it claims.

    /story.
    wrong. You need to /mouth. Because bodybuilders want the above effects ONLY if they lead to increased LBM. By your line of thinking, if a guy gives a hooker $20, it doesn't matter if he gets his BJ or not, because simply giving the $20 is the goal. That makes no sense. Go show some relevance to your product man. It doesn't bother me. I'd love to see it. Show that the claims actually lead to the desired results that bb'ers are looking for.

    It's like you're saying, "As long as your car makes good numbers on the dyno, it doesn't matter if it actually runs fast." Wrong. People aren't buying your products to get better blood test results. They're buying them to get the RESULTS that those increased values SHOULD lead to, but you (and all OTC test boosters are oddly unable to prove hrrrmmmm) aren't able to show any correlation.

    THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING IT IN THE QUOTED POST. IT IS REALLY GREAT TO SEE A COMPANY ADMIT THAT THEIR PRODUCT FAILS TO GIVE THE DESIRED RESULTS TO THE PHYSIQUE.
    Your body = a building under construction
    Food = bricks
    Hormones = workers
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    You can bring in all the workers you want, but if you don't bring in extra bricks for them to use, they can't do any more work.

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    Originally Posted by N4cer View Post
    wrong. You need to /mouth. Because bodybuilders want the above effects ONLY if they lead to increased LBM. By your line of thinking, if a guy gives a hooker $20, it doesn't matter if he gets his BJ or not, because simply giving the $20 is the goal. That makes no sense. Go show some relevance to your product man. It doesn't bother me. I'd love to see it. Show that the claims actually lead to the desired results that bb'ers are looking for.

    It's like you're saying, "As long as your car makes good numbers on the dyno, it doesn't matter if it actually runs fast." Wrong. People aren't buying your products to get better blood test results. They're buying them to get the RESULTS that those increased values SHOULD lead to, but you (and all OTC test boosters are oddly unable to prove hrrrmmmm) aren't able to show any correlation.

    THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING IT IN THE QUOTED POST. IT IS REALLY GREAT TO SEE A COMPANY ADMIT THAT THEIR PRODUCT FAILS TO GIVE THE DESIRED RESULTS TO THE PHYSIQUE.
    I can't speak for version 3 but the original was great for me. I only ran one bottle and I did see an increase in lean body mass for my 28 day run (did 2 caps morning 1 cap evening), 3lbs while decreasing fat going from 18 to 14 percent. Keep in mind everyone responds differently to products and for me this has been the best t booster for my cuts and I am a HUGE fan, no pun intended.

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    Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    I'll let THEHUGE fight his own battles, but see my post directly above this for a little insight into the industry. Some companies do meticulous testing on raws, many do not (hence the government hating our industry lol).

    If you think all raw ingredients are created equal you are under a false impression, 100% beef at McDonalds isnt the same as 100% beef at a high end steak house.

    Companies like BioForge are the steak houses of this industry, fly by night companies without the integrity are still trying to get to McDonalds status.
    This is summed up perfectly. You guys can't seriously think it's of the quality of BioForge v3 selling it at that price... price of raws come to mind.

    This company even has reps on other forums trying to market this product. What a joke.
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    Originally Posted by SarcoPlato View Post
    I bought 3 bottles. Saved me the price of a whole bottle of Bioforge. Better hope this stuff works or otherwise I'll never buy a Biotivia's product again.
    You bought the counterfeit BioForge v3 and if it doesn't work, you put the blame on the original product with proven quality? That makes no sense to me because even some of the ingredients are the same, the quality could be different, you get what you pay for.

    Originally Posted by SarcoPlato View Post
    Thanks, but I'm still not wasting 150 bucks on a product that's only backed up by shady Indian studies. No offence, but for a couple of rupee you can bribe those researchers so they can buy more curry for their family.
    Herbs existed and have been used widely for thousands of years in the East but long ignored by Western medicine, there are many people who remain skeptical about herbs but I don't think herbs can withstand the test of time if they don't work.
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    It seems obvious to me the OP either works for the company or is getting some kind of kickback. Nobody is that dumb...are they?

    Edit: didn't mean OP, meant SarcoPlato

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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    I'll stick with BioForge.


    I trust Biotivia, and willingly pay for quality.
    totally agree with this

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    Bioforge is the biggest rip off ever!!! 150.00 lol please! Hahaha the huge is a scam artist that inject test!! Lmao....what a joke!!!

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    Originally Posted by OneSwoleBro View Post
    This is summed up perfectly. You guys can't seriously think it's of the quality of BioForge v3 selling it at that price... price of raws come to mind.

    This company even has reps on other forums trying to market this product. What a joke.
    Have you tried it or tested it? If not, your argument holds no water.

    EDIT: Biotivia doesn't exactly have the best record when it comes to the FDA, including but not limited to false claims of being manufactured in a GMP-certified facility. Do a little searching if you don't believe me.

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    Originally Posted by manofmany View Post
    Have you tried it or tested it? If not, your argument holds no water.

    EDIT: Biotivia doesn't exactly have the best record when it comes to the FDA, including but not limited to false claims of being manufactured in a GMP-certified facility. Do a little searching if you don't believe me.
    Whether either of them are of a high quality, it doesn't matter. I can't hold respect for a company when they copy the profile of another product.
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    Originally Posted by N4cer View Post
    Blah blah blah
    We both know why you're posting in this thread. I mean the only actual reason.
    Now your buddy ironman88 (my stalker) is permabanned so you have to do his retarded job. Frauds help each other. Feel free to just disappear.

    Originally Posted by FREE4ALL View Post
    Bioforge is the biggest rip off ever!!! 150.00 lol please! Hahaha the huge is a scam artist that inject test!! Lmao....what a joke!!!
    Awesome posts history bud. You really deserve some respect.

    Originally Posted by manofmany View Post
    Have you tried it or tested it? If not, your argument holds no water.

    EDIT: Biotivia doesn't exactly have the best record when it comes to the FDA, including but not limited to false claims of being manufactured in a GMP-certified facility. Do a little searching if you don't believe me.
    False. This is just a blatant lie. You read some random crap on the net written by a competitor and believe it. You spread disinformation. Well sorry, you're terribly naive.
    No excuse for what you posted.

    http://www.biotivia.com/company/news...dbiotivia.html
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    ur all just dumb supptards

    real test, meat and potatoes

    dummies

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    Originally Posted by Outside backer View Post
    ur all just dumb supptards

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    i start to like you...

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    Originally Posted by Outside backer View Post
    ur all just dumb supptards

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    lol oh hai N4cer
    LOL @ that low level drugs dealer pretending to be the king of juice. Such a loser.
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    Originally Posted by manofmany View Post
    Have you tried it or tested it? If not, your argument holds no water.

    EDIT: Biotivia doesn't exactly have the best record when it comes to the FDA, including but not limited to false claims of being manufactured in a GMP-certified facility. Do a little searching if you don't believe me.
    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    False. This is just a blatant lie. You read some random crap on the net written by a competitor and believe it. You spread disinformation. Well sorry, you're terribly naive.
    No excuse for what you posted.

    http://www.biotivia.com/company/news...dbiotivia.html

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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    Correct. We use ABC testing, a FDA registered independent testing laboratory.
    Not to mention our products always passed ConsumerLab's test.
    I believe he meant to inquire whether or not you've run tests on the ripoff BioForge (VidaTest).

    Originally Posted by FREE4ALL View Post
    Bioforge is the biggest rip off ever!!! 150.00 lol please! Hahaha the huge is a scam artist that inject test!! Lmao....what a joke!!!
    How are you even green?

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    Can someone help me neg this retard into the red?

    And lol at calling the swolenone a kid.
    Did no one notice that he called THEHUGE a kid too? lol

    Originally Posted by SarcoPlato View Post
    The product contains the same ingredients as bioforge. If I buy a CEE product from BSN and it sucks I also know the CEE product of Gaspari sucks. Simple reasoning kid.
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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    We both know why you're posting in this thread. I mean the only actual reason.
    Now your buddy ironman88 (my stalker) is permabanned so you have to do his retarded job. Frauds help each other. Feel free to just disappear.
    Sorry I don't know who you're talking about bud. But good maturity. Can't show that your product actually DOES anything for a bodybuilder in reality instead of just on paper? No problem. Insult people instead. It's ok cause it's BB.com and nobody has integrity anyway.

    FYI: the real reason is the same reason I post about any supplements. Because people deserve to see both sides. Not just the company's side, which oddly this board relies upon like good little ignorant consumers. So I do my part simply to point out the parts that are rarely mentioned. You seem to love having people say that BioForge increases free test, but hate to have people point out that even you have zero evidence correlating that to increased LBM. Bb'ers want free test, but only if it results in a better physique. Otherwise it's pointless. Free test on a sheet of paper from a lab means nothing other than that somebody wasted his money.

    Beautiful. So far all the boards I've linked to this thread are enjoying the refusal to show results.
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    Originally Posted by N4cer View Post
    Sorry I don't know who you're talking about bud. But good maturity. Can't show that your product actually DOES anything for a bodybuilder in reality instead of just on paper? No problem. Insult people instead. It's ok cause it's BB.com and nobody has integrity anyway.

    Beautiful. So far all the boards I've linked to this thread are enjoying the refusal to show results.
    Why do you have to be so ignorant? Increased strength and size comes from micro tears in your muscle fibers. You can take legit steroids but if you don't workout, how do you expect to get bigger or stronger? Diet, nutrition and resistance training give you results. Increased testosterone has been shown to increase recovery of those micro tears. That's why Biotivia doesn't advertise their product to guarantee x amount of LBM gain. Because it is heavily user dependant.

    I kept hearing how you are a good poster, but this latest rant of yours proves your own bias towards something you manipulated to suit your own agenda. You're a bad troll.

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    Originally Posted by N4cer View Post
    Sorry I don't know who you're talking about bud.
    Liar. Shameless liar. Refrain from posting any further lie. You have no dignity.
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    Uh, read up son. Straight androgens with no weight training will still add LBM, just not strength. And not as much as if you had worked the muscle. So next time you want to correct someone, come correct or just stay on the porch man. No offense but don't try to correct someone without knowing what you're talking about.
    Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Why do you have to be so ignorant? Increased strength and size comes from micro tears in your muscle fibers. You can take legit steroids but if you don't workout, how do you expect to get bigger or stronger? Diet, nutrition and resistance training give you results. Increased testosterone has been shown to increase recovery of those micro tears. That's why Biotivia doesn't advertise their product to guarantee x amount of LBM gain. Because it is heavily user dependant.

    I kept hearing how you are a good poster, but this latest rant of yours proves your own bias towards something you manipulated to suit your own agenda. You're a bad troll.

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    Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Why do you have to be so ignorant? Increased strength and size comes from micro tears in your muscle fibers. You can take legit steroids but if you don't workout, how do you expect to get bigger or stronger? Diet, nutrition and resistance training give you results. Increased testosterone has been shown to increase recovery of those micro tears. That's why Biotivia doesn't advertise their product to guarantee x amount of LBM gain. Because it is heavily user dependant.

    I kept hearing how you are a good poster, but this latest rant of yours proves your own bias towards something you manipulated to suit your own agenda. You're a bad troll.
    He believes to know the art of dialectic. He obviously doesn't and his lame weak arguments aren't worth a damn. He's posting on behalf of his boyfriend now permabanned(I'm sure you remember that insane moron who used to create a new account a day to stalk me). Waste of time, put on ignore.
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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    Liar. Shameless liar. Refrain from posting any further lie. You have no dignity.
    THAT is your answer? Wow!
    Educate me. Who is the guy you're talking about? I can't say that I've ever met any Ironman88. Sorry to break your heart. Apparently you WANT to know about me but I can't say that I'm aware of that person.

    So back to the topic, or keep avoiding the discussion on your product's inability to produce realistic, noticeable changes in one's physique?

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    LOL @ that low level drugs dealer pretending to be the king of juice. Such a loser.
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