The reason i used celltech.

[safi connection]

only partially true. if you stop, you wont lose hair any faster than you would have if you never took the stuff to begin with. but yea it also causes ed.

it won't speed up your hair loss if you stop taking it, but you will have lost more hair then if you had never taken it.. as i said, when you first start taking fina you lose hair, EVEN if you aren't prone.. and if you ever stop using it you will lose all the hair you regrew including the first bit you lost.. hence making you balder then if you had never used it to begin with

[einsoft]

How can a individual who has no medical degree (with specific expertise) can do "proper research" about something complex as the human body?

[Heracles26]

How can a individual who has no medical degree (with specific expertise) can do "proper research" about something complex as the human body?

wikipedia

[BostonUrMyHome]

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[HalalBarbell]

Well i've always been confident and smart with my money. The thing that lifting has helped me in throughout the last 3 years is discipline. I'm not saying it should consume your life. Because i myself have a full time job aswell. My life withought muscles would of been more boring though. And i can see that now. Even though i would of probably filled that void with something else. I would never change a thing. Ever.

I admire a person who knows what they want and then gets it like they really wanted without hesitation. In fact I view your choice as more rational than a lot of aspiring bodybuilders who seem to think that an aesthetic body is all they need in life, its lack of is the reason for their mediocrity, and so covet it with the utmost intensity yet throws in all this 'feels proud to be natty' bull****.
You wanted jacked fibraz so you took it, others want it but they're so concerned about how they can say to others 'OH i'm natty!', but I guess for that reason they'll always be the guy who squats the 2nd most at the gym and that's fair enough.

Do you ever feel that other people neglect your other merits, distracted/outshined solely by your physique? I'm sure looking as you do 'how much do you bench?' is the elephant in the room to all your conversations.

[robbiek426]

I am a big cheater.

I agree op. Most importantly is I think everyone has the right to do whatever they want with their own bodies. Tech use is something that I am relatively new to (3 years) but I have had alot of fun with it. I actually enjoy the sense of well being more than the body. I love feeling good. Sometimes I feel too good to go to the gym so I will mow or something and hit Anytime fitness at 1030 when everyone goes to bed! Love the insane motivation to get **** done.

Gains are nice, if you diet and train properly then you will see results. If not then you will just feel ok and not change at all. Its not free muscle, its free muscle repair. GH is auto muscle, test is just the technician! I think every male over 30 should go on TRT. They would remember what 15-16 felt like again and we would have a WAY more productive middle aged population! Just my opinion guys. PM me if anyone needs additional info!

[psycho_626]

I like your muscles, op.

[cobhc]

I have zero hate against brahs who do it, especially if they're not competing in natural shows and stuff.

I agree that it's not that dangerous and that it's not that big of a deal

but... There's a certain feeling that you get after months of hardwork and transformation that makes you feel really proud that you did it on your own and you did it utilizing your body's genetic potential.

I've got a long way to go and it's going to take a LONG time but I know that everytime I consider a bike ride, a few months go by of deliberation and I see the progress that I've been waiting for and it no longer matters.

It feels good pushing your body to its' maximum potential without introducing foreign hormones.

[MeatFlops]

WTF does prone to hair lose mean? Srs isnt every old man bald? Does prone mean fully bald or half way bald? My dad is in his 40s and has very thin hair but hes not bald yet is that prone?

[Staliyo_Lycan]

How can a individual who has no medical degree (with specific expertise) can do "proper research" about something complex as the human body?

you can ask people who have been on cycles about their experience with it?

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[CB5]

You make some very good points (namely that is your body and you can do what you want).

I would personally stay natty because when I eventually hit 180lbs at 7-8% body fat,I can say I did it natty. And also,we ain't hating on anyone using tech. It's just when Chestbrah used it to get to 160lbs at 5'10-surely you can see why we would think why not do that natty? Anyway good post.

[TYLERDURDEN69]

I admire a person who knows what they want and then gets it like they really wanted without hesitation. In fact I view your choice as more rational than a lot of aspiring bodybuilders who seem to think that an aesthetic body is all they need in life, its lack of is the reason for their mediocrity, and so covet it with the utmost intensity yet throws in all this 'feels proud to be natty' bull****.
You wanted jacked fibraz so you took it, others want it but they're so concerned about how they can say to others 'OH i'm natty!', but I guess for that reason they'll always be the guy who squats the 2nd most at the gym and that's fair enough.

Do you ever feel that other people neglect your other merits, distracted/outshined solely by your physique? I'm sure looking as you do 'how much do you bench?' is the elephant in the room to all your conversations.

That is the ***giest thing i have ever read, jesus why dont you just put your tongue up his ass

[KickbackAndCurl]

WTF does prone to hair lose mean? Srs isnt every old man bald? Does prone mean fully bald or half way bald? My dad is in his 40s and has very thin hair but hes not bald yet is that prone?

the male pattern baldness "gene" comes from your mothers said AFAIK

[kingtung]

Tony Doherty once said; the best natural bodies are the average beach body looking juicer.

Gold words to be honest.

[jackjonez]

I don't have a problem with cell tech users, its good when people come clean instead of lying about it and giving people false hope.

I won't take cell tech, i don't like the associated health risks, however slim you suggest they might be. Plus i think if i did one bicycle ride i'd become a bit addicted and end up on it for life. I just want to be lean now, i have thoughts about taking some special supplements, shall we say, to lean down.

I actually find cell tech quite fascinating, i enjoy your 240lb thread, was good to follow.

[supaturk]

Feel bad for the young miscer that looks up to op, then they go out grab some roids without knowing what they are or what they will do to them internally or mentally and inject them or swallow them.

I use but sometimes i wish i hadnt started its a vicious cycle once you start using you can never going back to natty lifting, you loose drive everytime your off it fuks with you mentally.

I dont condone for the average 17-18 year old to use it. Nor will i give advice to someone of that age. It should only be done with thought out careful consideration. A good knowledge. And discipline/dedication principles.

does it take up a lot of your income, just for the tech, not supps/food etc

If you think about it. What you would spend on proteins and preworkouts and other supps in two years. Compared to two months of celltech. Is about the same price and with better results. Lol.

[jackjonez]

Tony Doherty once said; the best natural bodies are the average beach body looking juicer.

Gold words to be honest.

Doesn't make sense/10

[MasterCobra]

If only I could take somethign that sheds fat (15% to at least 12%) and build muscle at the same time.

a 15% bfer who takes roids usually looks swolen in the face and fat

[lolumadhomie]

"When I was on drugs, I was completely energized when I'd train, but when I was natural, I'd train for two hours, be exhausted and then still have no results. I would think, I don't believe. How do people do this?" - Flex Wheeler.

This guys said CHESTBRAH's supplier was selling, shall we say, WEAK CREATINE. seeing as supaturk is in the thread, i would be interested to what he has to say because i am a customer who has dealt with CB..nom sayin?

[kingtung]

Doesn't make sense/10

You know what it means /10

[HyenaMinion]

is terrible, TERRIBLE advice. you realise if you start using finastride that
1) your hair falls out for about a month after you first start using it, then slowly regrows back thicker and
2) if you EVER stop, for the rest of your LIFE all your hair will fall out again including the 'initial' falling out period.

so what this means is if you start taking finastride you can never stop unless you want to go bald.. oh also it causes erectile dysfunction sooo yeah

it can cause ed, not everyone gets it though i think less than 1/5 of the users do, even then they were mostly just the 40+ year old users who were probably already showing signs of it before

[Aggressive]

What you dont see is that we also like looking in the mirror and thinking "Holy f*ck.. holy f*ck, I did this. I created this. Gear DOES make you super man.

And as said previously. Nothing beats the feeling of being on tech. And getting to that level of a physique that is not only unnatural looking but is also seen as impossible to achieve by other people. Not just an average good natty body

Not really the same though is it. I was talking about the feeling of pride you have for your own bodies unassisted capabilities and genetic potential. Its hard to explain.

I'll take this moment to clarify I'm not against people who do juice. ^^ the bolded is why I'm actually considering it myself in future. To get to the level I WOULDNT be able to achieve naturally. I'm just a little disappointed in new lifters who jump straight on it tbh. But its personal choice. Good thread read anyway mate.

[Fierceplay]

I dont condone for the average 17-18 year old to use it. Nor will i give advice to someone of that age. It should only be done with thought out careful consideration. A good knowledge. And discipline/dedication principles.



If you think about it. What you would spend on proteins and preworkouts and other supps in two years. Compared to two months of celltech. Is about the same price and with better results. Lol.

what age did you start at anyways

[bydacheeseys]

If you think about it. What you would spend on proteins and preworkouts and other supps in two years. Compared to two months of celltech. Is about the same price and with better results. Lol.

Unless you're buying from Chestbrah, then it'll cost you 5 grand.

[boxtrot]

turk. i have been lifting for 5 years and barely look like i lift if it wasnt for the vein in my biceps and some reasonable pecs.

i think its time.

[Hearnothing]

I dont condone for the average 17-18 year old to use it. Nor will i give advice to someone of that age. It should only be done with thought out careful consideration. A good knowleI m depdge. And discipline/dedication principles.



If you think about it. What you would spend on proteins and preworkouts and other supps in two years. Compared to two months of celltech. Is about the same price and with better results. Lol.

Damn. I m depressed bro.

[AntonioWright]

Tony Doherty once said; the best natural bodies are the average beach body looking juicer.

Gold words to be honest.

Who?

[BloodRush00]

Should check out my sig supaturk

[AntonioWright]

Unless you're buying from Chestbrah, then it'll cost you 5 grand.

Not even that and you're talking Canadian!

[TYLERDURDEN69]

I dont condone for the average 17-18 year old to use it. Nor will i give advice to someone of that age. It should only be done with thought out careful consideration. A good knowledge. And discipline/dedication principles.



If you think about it. What you would spend on proteins and preworkouts and other supps in two years. Compared to two months of celltech. Is about the same price and with better results. Lol.

Thing is i havent been on this forum in ages but i remember last time i was you made another thread very similar to this one.Comes across as though your trying to justify your usage.
You use and you clearly happy with the results i dont think you should encourage anybody under the age of 25 to use or at any age until they get to 40 and their test starts depleting