Hummus: for weight gain & fat loss?

[tinman15]

Has anyone used hummus to help gain weight or lose fat?

My current g/f is middle eastern and follows mostly a vegan-type diet so I've been trying to keep some healthy things around the house, and also learn to cook things she's used to. I'm open to anyone with ideas.

For anyone interested, currently I cook in 1 lb batches, 1/2 of the batch I add 2 lemons, lots of cumin seeds, 1/2 cup of the cooking water, garlic, and a little bit of evoo for her.

The second batch I do the same but use a **** load of evoo and red palm oil. about 1/4 cup of each.

This is the base, you can remove the cumin and flavor it however you like.

[dizzay20]

i dont know, is it a food item that contains macros and micros?

[AlwaysTryin]

i dont know, is it a food item that contains macros and micros?

yep, and lots of calories

[Ajaro]

Hummus and Pita chips, here I come in two weeks back to the States, yessssssssssss


Anyways, its fine. Just keep track of the cals/macros as best you can so you aren't in the dark totally

[nlite2000]

It's calorie dense and yummy.

[tinman15]

NOTE: I am not asking for a nutritional profile/density that is obvious, nor problems it possesses that are likely less obvious. Just asking for anecdotal reports of anyone who used it as a staple in their diet with success.

[Taz80]

Chickpeas got decent amount of protein compared to other non-meat sources, so it's great if you're a vegan, however, the main ingredient of making hummus is tahini, it's calorie dense (equivalent to p.b). Some folks tend to sub that for FFGY or capsicum+paprika, but honestly it doesn't taste as good.

NOTE: I am not asking for a nutritional profile/density that is obvious, nor problems it possesses that are likely less obvious. Just asking for anecdotal reports of anyone who used it as a staple in their diet with success.

[Ajaro]

I really don't want to say "IIFYM" or ask "have you read the stickies?" but....

have you?

Question is the reverse, why couldn't it be used in a diet for weight gain or fat loss?

[tinman15]

as I said, I am not interested in macros, nutritional-profile and yet you post an obnoxious picture about macros. I don't like tahini either, and to me, it tastes just fine without it. The oil is used to add nutrient density.

It could be bad for phytoestrogens, phytic acid, and other anti-nutrients ect. Also vegetable proteins are arguably less favorable for muscle gain. Both are highly debatable subjects, one I imagined not favored by the posters here, which is why I don't care to delve into the topic. Was just hoping if someone could comment, who had used it before as a predominant staple in their diet.

[Ajaro]

You should go talk with Synthetic. I bet you two would have loads of fun together.

[Taz80]

It could be bad for phytoestrogens, phytic acid, and other anti-nutrients ect.

Here we go again, Nuts (such as P.B), bread and meat (BB stable foods) are also high on phytoestrogens, do you see them growing breasts or losing their penises?

Here:

Effect of a phytoestrogen food supplement on reproductive health in normal males
Result
There was no change in oestradiol, testosterone, FSH or LH concentrations throughout the study (Table 1). Similarly, the supplement had no significant effect on ejaculate volume, sperm concentration, count or motility (Table 2). This was supported by a lack of effect on sperm movement using CASA (results not shown). The data show an apparent effect on sperm morphology in month 7; however, this can be explained by a change in the reporting criteria in the WHO guidelines at the beginning of 1999 [17b]. With the inclusion of new strict reporting criteria, the reference scale changed and a value > 10 was considered to be good morphology. Adjustment for co-variates had a large effect for sperm count in months 1 and 7, because there was a large coefficient of variation (93%), and imbalance over technicians and seasons was greatest in these months.

http://www.clinsci.org/cs/100/0613/cs1000613.htm

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis.

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:
To determine whether isoflavones exert estrogen-like effects in men by lowering bioavailable T through evaluation of the effects of soy protein or isoflavone intake on T, sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG), free T, and free androgen index (FAI) in men.

DESIGN:
PubMed and CAB Abstracts databases were searched through July 1, 2008, with use of controlled vocabulary specific to the databases, such as soy, isoflavones, genistein, phytoestrogens, red clover, androgen, testosterone, and SHBG. Peer-reviewed studies published in English were selected if [1] adult men consumed soy foods, isolated soy protein, or isoflavone extracts (from soy or red clover) and [2] circulating T, SHBG, free T, or calculated FAI was assessed. Data were extracted by two independent reviewers. Isoflavone exposure was abstracted directly from studies.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S):
Fifteen placebo-controlled treatment groups with baseline and ending measures were analyzed. In addition, 32 reports involving 36 treatment groups were assessed in simpler models to ascertain the results.

RESULT(S):
No significant effects of soy protein or isoflavone intake on T, SHBG, free T, or FAI were detected regardless of statistical model.

CONCLUSION(S):
The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224

[tinman15]

Both are highly debatable subjects, one I imagined not favored by the posters here, which is why I don't care to delve into the topic.

And also subjects I did not give a position on. Note: I am currently eating lots of hummus, and am discussing eating lots more, so it should be obvious where my position stands. Also, thanks for taking my thread more off topic and ignoring the direct question I asked.

But I could provide studies that say the opposite, and studies don't always reflect the obvious, what is true, or what isn't true for that matter. Look at topics such as cholesterol, saturated fat, and intermittent fasting. BUT AGAIN, NOT INTERESTED IN ARGUING IT. THANKS!

[Taz80]

I'm originally from lebanon, hummus is a household stable, i ate that **** while losing weight (with tahini and olive oil) but with moderation and it didn't effect me, plus, i never saw someone gain weight (or getting girly for that matter) from eating it.

Good enough for ya?

[tinman15]

that's one user's experience, but I def appreciate it. Would still like to hear from a few others.

I guess what I was looking for was someone to directly attribute it being helpful. An example would be, I was eating X, but once incorporating hummus it allowed a much greater macro content putting on Y lbs.

Or the same for losing weight, as previously mentioned, I can make it very dense, or the opposite.

I think I'm just a little paranoid switching to staple vegan protein sources. While I am not vegan, vegan BB are far and few between, and something I have a current interest in.

[matti92]

that's one user's experience, but I def appreciate it. Would still like to hear from a few others.

I guess what I was looking for was someone to directly attribute it being helpful. An example would be, I was eating X, but once incorporating hummus it allowed a much greater macro content putting on Y lbs.

Or the same for losing weight, as previously mentioned, I can make it very dense, or the opposite.

I think I'm just a little paranoid switching to staple vegan protein sources. While I am not vegan, vegan BB are far and few between, and something I have a current interest in.

wtf are you honestly looking for?
How is someone telling you that by eating extra calories they gained weight beneficial to you at all? Just eat it if you like it, who cares whether other people use it as a staple in their diet or not.

[juliacheh]

Not a fan of foods like this when cutting.
Too little volume, few calories, do not provide satiety.
On maintenance and bulk - I eat hummus now and then.

She needs to be aware of the calories in hummus.

[adamg8504]

yep, and lots of calories

Not a fan of foods like this when cutting.
Too little volume, few calories, do not provide satiety.
On maintenance and bulk - I eat hummus now and then.

She needs to be aware of the calories in hummus.

Maybe traditional hummus is loaded with fat because of the tahini and EVOO but there is hummus that you can buy in the store (I buy Sahara Cuisine) that isn't that calorie dense and still tastes very good.

Here is their web site.

And here is a nutrtional lable for it.

[BunkMoreland]

yes, calorie-dense foods like hummus and nut butter can be eaten on a cut. exhibit restraint, and you'll be fine

[juliacheh]

Maybe traditional hummus is loaded with fat because of the tahini and EVOO but there is hummus that you can buy in the store (I buy Sahara Cuisine) that isn't that calorie dense and still tastes very good.

Thanks. Haven't seen it around, but will investigate more

[synthetic]

OP make your own hummous, as store brands like to dump a lot of extra oil in it.... simply get tahini paste, chickpeas, and add some spices if you want

instead of pita bread, brocolli , califlower, celery, carrots are great for dipping

[MakeABanana]

I've eaten it for both bulking and cutting with no problems.