KAI VS RONNIE " back double biceps" pic

[ONYDO]

[TTimmerman]

scaling is way off+this isn't RC's prime. i'm impressed by kai though

[wala]

Where's the poll?! Do a poll!!!!

Anyway, poll results are roughly 90:10 in favour of the MUCH better bber and pose - Ronnie Coleman.

Edit:

scaling is way off+this isn't RC's prime. i'm impressed by kai though

Even better that the scaling is favouring Kai but is still getting owned. Ronnie has better legs, better biceps peak, fuller triceps, thicker forearms and generally a better shape to his back/lats

Edit: Inb4surfer

[BartPimpson]

The scaling is pretty nice to Kai. I don't think his legs would dwarf Ronnie's like that.

[Rocky-Balboa]

What year Coleman is that?


If post 2002, then scaling way off for mass. Coleman needs to be wider and a little taller.

Kai is 5'7" at around 270lbs.

Coleman is 5'11" at around 290+lbs.

[ONYDO]

scaling is way off+this isn't RC's prime. i'm impressed by kai though

scaling will never be perfect and Kai is not at his prime either.

[TTimmerman]

scaling will never be perfect and Kai is not at his prime either.

ye but 4 inches is quite a big deal... and so is the difference between 2001 and 2003-5 coleman

[BartPimpson]

What year Coleman is that?


If post 2002, then scaling way off for mass. Coleman needs to be wider and a little taller.

Kai is 5'7" at around 270lbs.

Coleman is 5'11" at around 290+lbs.

I'm not sure. I think Kai's "official" height is 5'8 and I've long suspected that Ronnie is shorter than 5'11.

[ONYDO]

I did what I could

[BartPimpson]

To back up the "Ronnie isn't 5'11" thing, here's him standing next to the 5'9 Flex Wheeler. I'm not seeing 2 inches of height difference here.

[Rocky-Balboa]

To back up the "Ronnie isn't 5'11" thing, here's him standing next to the 5'9 Flex Wheeler. I'm not seeing 2 inches of height difference here.

Coleman's website states he is 5'11". And in contests he is recorded as 5'11".

And here Coleman is next to a 5'9" Cutler and clearly he is at the minimum 1 inch taller, but likely closer to 2:

[Rocky-Balboa]

Yates is 5'10" and looks similar height to Coleman here. Minus the shoes from Yates and add some height to Coleman (if his head was facing straight) and Coleman is a little taller.

[moetstylesbrah]

scaling clearly gives to kai for better legs and lats.. fukin awesome pic though

[Protienfreak]

I'm not sure. I think Kai's "official" height is 5'8 and I've long suspected that Ronnie is shorter than 5'11.

I've met Ronnie in person and I'm 6'1. I'd say when i spoke to him face to face he was no taller than 5'10 and that's being generous.

[spamy]

[soapy]

To back up the "Ronnie isn't 5'11" thing, here's him standing next to the 5'9 Flex Wheeler. I'm not seeing 2 inches of height difference here.

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tbh theres very little height difference between them, but thats probably because 2 inches is very little height difference.
sorry for sarcasm, but people do seem to overstate height differences alot, 1-4inches is pretty minimal unless they are stood back to back.

on topic, Kai's doing very well against Ronnie in this pic IMO even if it isnt 'prime' Coleman

[BartPimpson]

Yates is 5'10" and looks similar height to Coleman here. Minus the shoes from Yates and add some height to Coleman (if his head was facing straight) and Coleman is a little taller.

What year was this? Yates had definitely lost a lot of size.

[asto_86]

I was expecting a Coleman blowout here... But damn Kai looks good when compared with the GOAT!

[jiveinhere]

tbh theres very little height difference between them, but thats probably because 2 inches is very little height difference.
sorry for sarcasm, but people do seem to overstate height differences alot, 1-4inches is pretty minimal unless they are stood back to back.

this!!

[Mzzk]

Edited the pic

[Devils]

[Pump Freak 86]

Ronnie's back is more complete, but there are certain areas of Kai's back that are definitely competitive with Ronnie's (lat/teres tie in and the lat/erector tie in). Shape wise, Kai's lats are more advantageous than Ronnies (a proportionately bigger muscle belly and a lower insertion), but he has not yet reached a level of development that turns those advantages into a vvctory.

Ronnie has the better glutes and hams as well. Kai's quads have a better sweep from this angle, but I don't think his edge out Ronnie's in other angles. Ronnie's arms are also better than Kai's. Ronnie's delts are crapping all over Kai's. There's no way to sugar coat that one. I won't bring traps up at all.

[Quadruped]

Both look a complete mess imo. Now Dorian, Jay, Schwarzenegger, Zane - THOSE are some olympia quality physiques!

[BiggerTommorow]

ITT people compare heights of other people with made up heights. All bodybuilders embellish their height to a degree. So its impossible to compare 1 to another.

[Rocky-Balboa]

2000 Coleman was not even near his best. He weighed around 260-265. Add another 30-35 lb of lean muscle, and you will have prime Coleman.


I think his back looked best in 98, 99, 03 and 04.

[AnarkyLost]

What year Coleman is that?


If post 2002, then scaling way off for mass. Coleman needs to be wider and a little taller.

Kai is 5'7" at around 270lbs.

Coleman is 5'11" at around 290+lbs.

Coleman isn't as wide as you would think he is. He's more filled out then anyone but even Jay kills him on shoulder to shoulder width and also Jays back is just as wide as Ronnies but less developed so it doesnt make you say WOW.

[Rocky-Balboa]

Coleman isn't as wide as you would think he is. He's more filled out then anyone but even Jay kills him on shoulder to shoulder width and also Jays back is just as wide as Ronnies but less developed so it doesnt make you say WOW.

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I'm just saying Coleman's shoulder width is wider then Kai's. In OP's pics, Kai's shoulder's are wider then Coleman's, so i think he should make them a little wider. I'm not saying he is the widest ever, or that he's known for his width, just that he is wider then Kai. That's all.



Here i put them both with the same width (even though Coleman should still be a little wider) and it made a big difference. Add another 30+ lbs to this, and you will have a prime Coleman:

[AnarkyLost]

.....Kai actually has wide shoulder width...your not giving him enough credit.




Also your scaling is even more off then the OP's...

[sexnews]

What year Coleman is that?

2001 Arnold Classic

[Rocky-Balboa]

.....Kai actually has wide shoulder width...your not giving him enough credit.

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Also your scaling is even more off then the OP's...

lol i'm not saying he is narrow! and i'm not saying Coleman is extremely wide!

All i'm saying is COLEMAN is wider then KAI.

NOT CUTLER IS WIDER THEN COLEMAN.

OR KAI IS WIDER THEN HEATH.



And how is my scaling off? All i did was widen Coleman to have the same width as Kai (as you see the lines above, both are same width) and made Coleman about an inch taller (assuming he is at least 2 inches taller then Kai). That's all. How is it off? Explain. Should Coleman be shorter then Kai? Should Kai be wider then Coleman?