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07-19-2012, 09:02 AM #121
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07-21-2012, 03:03 AM #122
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07-22-2012, 10:08 PM #123
Strength Training vs Body Building
[QUOTE=TrettinR;717956951]For those of you who are interested in strength training instead of just bodybuilding, or have the ambition to combine both strength training and bodybuilding. Or maybe you just want to learn how to maximize their bench, squat, deadlift, overhead press, etc. I have one large piece of advice for you for you...
GET OUT OF THIS SECTION. There is virtually no limit on misinformation in this section from "experts" who really have no idea what they are talking about when it come to strength training. The bad advice runs rampant, and is only going to limit your progress/potential. Now, there are definitely a handful of people who know their stuff in this section, but those handful of people can't police all the bad information being spread around in a lot of these threads. Also, many of those people who DO know their stuff also frequent the sections dedicated to strength sports so they are great sources over there too. If you want to learn about strength training, get out of this section and do yourself a favor and go learn from people who know what they are talking about.
This thread is not intended to offend anyone, it's similar advice I would give to people interested in bodybuilding asking questions in the powerlifting/strongman section. I just see a lot of people here interested in strength asking questions to people who don't have the same goals or knowledge as many other people in the strength oriented sections (powerlifting/strongman/olylifting)."
EDIT: link to Powerlifting/Strongman section
Pretty Spot on....... Yeah I gave up on "body building" cause I look around my gym and all the body builders look half crippled. Strength training is the best thing I have came along this past year learning the ways of Pavel Tsatsouline at DragonDoor(dot com). I'll take the secrets of the Russian Special Forces, Pavel, any day before I listen to a body builder toss out advice. I agree that strength training is where it's at, 2012 folks, and learning more about functional movement patterns (stability, mobility and flexibility) is amazing stuff and you also don't have to be "BUFF" to be strong. Strength is a skill and is learned. Learning how to use the entire body to spread the load. Bicep curls a trained monkey could do.... I think you guys see I am a little biased on the way I have learned to train the past 12 month. HARDSTYLE Train Hard. Train Smart. Enjoy!
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07-22-2012, 10:15 PM #124
Yeah it's crazy.... I still scratch my head why guys want to look half cropped and be HUGE... Woman, hot ones, don't like that look. In 1980 maybe. I'd rather have forged aesthetics than look like some guy that sets his alarm at night cause he might "shrink" if he doesn't get his 35-40 grams of protein in every 3-4 hours. I am with you ziesha001
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07-24-2012, 03:32 AM #125
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07-25-2012, 08:27 PM #126
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07-26-2012, 11:20 AM #127
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07-31-2012, 08:55 PM #128
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08-11-2012, 03:19 PM #129
Who cares if only a very small % of the people on this site actually compete in bodybuilding?
Fact of the matter is is that the majority of the people are on this site because they want to BUILD their BODY and improve their aesthetics, not to be the strongest man in the world. Go to a powerlifting site and the majority of the people do not actually compete in powerlifting, so what's your point?
Most people don't want to end up looking like Jay Cutler, having that unnatural and juiced up look. Guaranteed that if you asked members on this site whose physique they would rather have, Cutler or Plyoathlete, the large majority would choose Plyo.
You probably wouldn't want to train like Jay Cutler to get the physique someone like Plyo has, but you do want to train with a more bodybuilding oriented routine than a powerlifting routine to get that physique.
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08-12-2012, 01:14 AM #130
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08-13-2012, 01:54 AM #132
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09-08-2012, 02:56 PM #134
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Going to put my input here since what the OP talks about is exactly what I was guilty of some time ago:
My weight training career (I think this is the most universal expression I can think of that incorporates all who lift weights regardless of goals) began with a very classic bodybuilding approach.
Over time however I realized that strength training and then more specifically Olympic weightlifting is what I was really interested in (since even when training for strength, you'll still get a beach worthy body). However I failed to realize that when posting on these boards and would get into hugely long arguments with people coming from a bodybuilding mindset while I was approaching the issue from a strength training point of view.
In fact I had a look back through my posting history and I can't believe the arguments I got into about this bodybuilding vs strength training approach (mostly it was just me arguing that the mind muscle connection isn't important). Examples:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1402313&page=1
And my true Magnum Opus, the me vs everyone else discussion on "feeling" muscles vs just doing the lift:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...4866181&page=1
I had a lot of time on my hands during my university days so it seems that arguing with bodybuilders is where a lot of it went. Although I still stand by many of my original arguments in these threads, I am embarrassed to say that I saw the big picture (i.e why am I arguing strength training things with bodybuilders) only much later that I was doing something that was just stupid and out of place.
I have now realized that since I'm not a bodybuilder per se (I enjoy the physique changes that come from lifting weights but its not my primary goal), then I am way out of place discussing these issues with bodybuilders. Now I just hang out in the Olympic lifting section mostly because there are people training for goals similar to mine.Strength + Speed = Power
If you never fail, you aren't truly pushing yourself to the limit. If you never push yourself to the limit, how do you know what you're truly capable of?
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09-26-2012, 03:36 PM #135
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09-26-2012, 03:37 PM #136
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10-25-2012, 05:34 PM #139
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