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Traingry
For those interested in strength training...
For those of you who are interested in strength training instead of just bodybuilding, or have the ambition to combine both strength training and bodybuilding. Or maybe you just want to learn how to maximize their bench, squat, deadlift, overhead press, etc. I have one large piece of advice for you for you...
GET OUT OF THIS SECTION. There is virtually no limit on misinformation in this section from "experts" who really have no idea what they are talking about when it come to strength training. The bad advice runs rampant, and is only going to limit your progress/potential. Now, there are definitely a handful of people who know their stuff in this section, but those handful of people can't police all the bad information being spread around in a lot of these threads. Also, many of those people who DO know their stuff also frequent the sections dedicated to strength sports so they are great sources over there too. If you want to learn about strength training, get out of this section and do yourself a favor and go learn from people who know what they are talking about.
This thread is not intended to offend anyone, it's similar advice I would give to people interested in bodybuilding asking questions in the powerlifting/strongman section. I just see a lot of people here interested in strength asking questions to people who don't have the same goals or knowledge as many other people in the strength oriented sections (powerlifting/strongman/olylifting).
EDIT: link to Powerlifting/Strongman section http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=33
Last edited by TrettinR; 07-15-2011 at 09:08 PM.
There is no such thing as 'strong enough'
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Moderator
5 starred. could a mod sticky this?
Deadlift- 575 Squat- 450 Benchpress- 335
In a deadlift race with E_P_C based on progression. i am 5 pounds ahead :)
Racing to a tree fitty benchpress with BabyOilBrah. we are tied-ish :)
Racing to a 5 plate squat with jshaw5. i think i am winning :)
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Intermediate Lifter
Also, I recommend looking through some journals. One thing that helped me was to follow some guys in their journals and watch them progress. It's hard to argue proven results based on solid programs.
ngolsen and Farley1324 are two guys that really inspired me...
CAPSI-BLAST Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=153062301
My Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=134256491
DIY Plyo Boxes:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=151765733
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Intermediate Lifter
I'm just going to keep bumping this so that people actually see it.
CAPSI-BLAST Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=153062301
My Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=134256491
DIY Plyo Boxes:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=151765733
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NOxplode, animal pak, dessicated liver, espresso powder and cod liver oil blended up in a big cup of extra virgin olive oil.
Conventional wisdom is stupid, DEADLIFT EVERY DAY.
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I'm known by other names
There's a strength training section?
Well, bye.
ETA: Link?
ETA2: Powerlifting/strongman I guess. found it.
ETA3: Awesome. Did not ever think to even look for a power lifting section.
Last edited by IamJonsCranium; 07-15-2011 at 12:47 PM.
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Registered User
I do know that a majority of the people that post here a full of ****. I do have a question; is there anyone that has some legit credentials or something that can help refine my workout program? I would really appreciate it!!
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Registered User
Thanks I guess but this sort of post is rather useless without directing us to the right sources...
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Originally Posted by wade6307
I do know that a majority of the people that post here a full of ****. I do have a question; is there anyone that has some legit credentials or something that can help refine my workout program? I would really appreciate it!!
Unfortunately, a lot of times it's a the ones with the "legit credentials" that you need to look out for, lol.
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"Team Super Awesome!"
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Registered User
Originally Posted by terman1
Unfortunately, a lot of times it's a the ones with the "legit credentials" that you need to look out for, lol.
Well then who should I seek for advice? My workout partner is really legit ( all natural and competed for mr. Michigan) buy we hardly get to workout together anymore. I kinda lost the hang of it after almost a two month break. So id really like to get some guidance with getting those workouts that hit that sweet spots and optimize my body comp.
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Banned
5 star thread. This section sucks.
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Registered User
no doubt you've got to sift through the advice given here and take what works for you and make it work for you even better by keeping learning. just as the first post said try to get as much info from people who know what they talking about.
I'd like to add though "some" people who are major experts who are trying to hype their workouts are not always out to give the best advice. they're out for money just keep that in mind while researching :-)
Loves deadlifting so much want to become coroner
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Originally Posted by bobjenkins777
no doubt you've got to sift through the advice given here and take what works for you and make it work for you even better by keeping learning. just as the first post said try to get as much info from people who know what they talking about.
I'd like to add though "some" people who are major experts who are trying to hype their workouts are not always out to give the best advice. they're out for money just keep that in mind while researching :-)
yeah I had made the assumption that the people with good credentials that are boasting about their workout are only in it for the profit gains, or for future profit gains. I think that some people steep pretty low when they do that but that is just me. is there anyone in this section or thread that would like to help critique my workout or give advice of my workout just because they would like to help people out? ( and if someone does help please don't feed me bull**** like a magical program where your bench 100# more in 3 days)
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Registered User
This thread is loosing its steam...
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Registered User
Hello everyone,
In my opinion, some people are interested in strength training. But majority of them only want to exercise. Are you agreen with me?
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STFU AND SQUAT.
1st page of sticky woot.
Yeah though there are some decent advices that goes around here but its better to get them from a more experienced type of person
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Lifts / Weight
Squat / 157.5kgx1
Bench / 105kgx1
Deadlift / 170kgx1
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need one of these in the teen section as well.....
1st page of sticky
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Banned
Originally Posted by terman1
Unfortunately, a lot of times it's a the ones with the "legit credentials" that you need to look out for, lol.
I know rite? I clearly have no credentials so nobody's at risk of blindly following my ideas, instead it will lead them to go "guy's probably batty" and go do their own research.
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Traingry
Originally Posted by randyyle
1st page of sticky woot.
Yeah though there are some decent advices that goes around here but its better to get them from a more experienced type of person
The problem for a beginner is that they don't know the difference between good advice and terrible advice. That's why this section, among others, is terrible for strength advice. Over in the strength sections of this website there are more than enough knowledgeable lifters to police the bad advice and also to offer different opinions/insight/theory on strength training so you can learn about all different types of strength programs so you are able to pick one that best suits your goals and the type of lifting you want to do.
There is no such thing as 'strong enough'
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Surly Elitist Prick
Most of the posts on this site suck, regardless of section.
The onus is at least in good part on the individual to learn who to listen to. The internet is no different than other mediums: books, mags, etc.
Since this is a bodybuilding website, people should realize that most advice will be in that context unless otherwise specified.
Ultimately people will learn through their own experiences. it isn't the job of those posting here to "save" the heathens.
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Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick
Most of the posts on this site suck, regardless of section.
Not sure if more accurate words have ever been entered on this wasted piece of cyberspace.
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doesn't even lift
didn't know this became a sticky
first page!
440/248/485 = 1173@144
come visit my log - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135067661&page=29
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Yes, and how about we also stop skewing every piece of advice for bodybuilders with powerlifting schemes.
Isolation exercises are not the enemy.
By reading this post you have agreed to my negative reputation terms of service.
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Banned
lol @ this getting a sticky.
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Registered User
I'll have to check the strength section out more, some questions do belong over there yes, but there are plenty of exercises that would not typically get covered over there, ie: core work, tabata, calves-sh*t like that, that one would get hopefully better info over here.
The programs section is kind of lacking from what I've seen, alot of SS talk but not much about GVT, FST-7, wave loading and other real programs.
Have seen a little Wendlers 5/3/1 there so thats good.
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Registered User
Also, some may intinidated a little, thinking that they are not striong enough to even go to that section.
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Originally Posted by rutzilla
alot of SS talk but not much about GVT, FST-7, wave loading and other real programs.
Have seen a little Wendlers 5/3/1 there so thats good.
I wonder why...
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