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    Tell me if im going to ruin muh gains with this - IF type cut

    after doing a lot of research (hard to tell which parts were bs, tbh) I picked out what seems, at this time, to be the best option
    >6'3, 210lb, enough muscle that warrants caution doing this kind of thing

    it's a lot like leangains.
    it's a low carb IF. I'll also detail what i'd be doing during which period

    Lifting Day:
    1pm to 7pm
    >eat: 25% of my intake, half carbs half protein
    >lift
    >eat: 25% of my intake, fat and protein
    >eat the other 50% close to 7 PM

    Non Lifting Day:
    1pm to 7pm
    >fasted LISS, some bodyweight and small exercises
    >eat 50% of my intake after, no/low carb
    >eat the other 50% again close to 7 PM

    every day:
    1g of protein per estimated lean mass in lbs (somewhere between 180g and 190g)
    2,000-2,200kcal
    below 50g carbs

    feedback appreciated, thanks
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    certainly.

    Starve yourself and expect to lose muscle
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    Originally Posted by swole-striation View Post
    certainly.

    Starve yourself and expect to lose muscle
    i dunno man. that leangains guy is pretty swole
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    Originally Posted by swole-striation View Post
    certainly.

    Starve yourself and expect to lose muscle
    ?? what?
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    Originally Posted by swole-striation View Post
    certainly.

    Starve yourself and expect to lose muscle
    LOL, is this real life?

    BRB not a single ounce of muscle lost, PRs close to competition level of body fat, ghrelin levels in check. Will use for cutting again.
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    Originally Posted by swole-striation View Post
    certainly.

    Starve yourself and expect to lose muscle
    Starvin' Marvin.. You've got a lotta readin' to do
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    ?? what?
    Originally Posted by juliacheh View Post
    LOL, is this real life?

    BRB not a single ounce of muscle lost, PRs close to competition level of body fat, ghrelin levels in check. Will use for cutting again.
    does that mean the plan in OP is good or what?
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    Originally Posted by n0homo View Post
    does that mean the plan in OP is good or what?
    It means that you won't lose muscle by simply doing IF.
    If you can fast and prefer to eat bigger meas, it's good for you.
    If you would rather graze or need to have a breakfast, look into smth. else

    P.S. Read your post. I was just outraged with the comment.
    Calories are too low, why low carb?
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    Originally Posted by n0homo View Post
    does that mean the plan in OP is good or what?

    Calories are pretty low..
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    Originally Posted by juliacheh View Post
    It means that you won't lose muscle by simply doing IF.
    If you can fast and prefer to eat bigger meas, it's good for you.
    If you would rather graze or need to have a breakfast, look into smth. else

    P.S. Read your post. I was just outraged with the comment.
    Calories are too low, why low carb?
    Originally Posted by PhiSig2298 View Post
    Calories are pretty low..
    about calories: im 17 - 18% bodyfat. went down from over 20%, 250lbs by eating about 2.5k. its kind of stalled, so i figure i need to push it along to get to a better percentage.

    low carb because i figure carbs are only worth eating before lifting, and that i would be better off in a glycogen depleted state if im trying to cut <== please tell me if i'm horribly mistaken
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    Originally Posted by n0homo View Post
    does that mean the plan in OP is good or what?
    it means ignore the dude who knows nothing
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    Originally Posted by n0homo View Post
    about calories: im 17 - 18% bodyfat. went down from over 20%, 250lbs by eating about 2.5k. its kind of stalled, so i figure i need to push it along to get to a better percentage.

    low carb because i figure carbs are only worth eating before lifting, and that i would be better off in a glycogen depleted state if im trying to cut <== please tell me if i'm horribly mistaken
    Read the stickies please. You are misunderstanding the caloric deficit and carbs. Carbs do not prevent fat loss.
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    Originally Posted by juliacheh View Post
    Read the stickies please. You are misunderstanding the caloric deficit and carbs. Carbs do not prevent fat loss.
    well i understand at least that much. however, i was under the impression that low carb would be faster. what would you recommend as a good cutting P:F:C ratio? it is currently 45:45:10
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    Originally Posted by n0homo View Post
    well i understand at least that much. however, i was under the impression that low carb would be faster. what would you recommend as a good cutting P:F:C ratio? it is currently 45:45:10
    low carb = faster weight loss, not fat loss
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    @ OP -

    If you enjoy low carb, go for it. Though be aware there is no magical metabolic advantage to your body using dietary fat as its energy store, one way or the other the only thing that dictates your fat loss is your net energy balance at the end of the day.

    @ all the rest of the idiots in the thread -

    I eat one meal per day post workout and have a preworkout snack and that's it. Umad I'm leaner AND stronger than you?

    meal timing is IRRELEVANT
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    My strength has been consistently increasing while on IF and I've been dropping about 2lbs a week. I also certainly do not starve. Infact I find that eating a few big meals keeps me much fuller then when I was eating six small meals throughout the entire day.

    And the best part is I havnt had the urge to binge eat.
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    I'd say he needs more cals, unless you literally sleep all day! An active 210lbs 6.3ft male, 2k cals is not enough.. IMO and he will lose muscle due to cals being so low. Again all IMO so don't get mad.
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    well i understand at least that much. however, i was under the impression that low carb would be faster. what would you recommend as a good cutting P:F:C ratio? it is currently 45:45:10
    We don't use ratios here.
    Please read, come up with macros, and we will take a look.
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    Originally Posted by swole-striation View Post
    Starve yourself and expect to lose muscle
    I tried intermittent fasting and my left bicep fell off. What muscle did you lose?
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