I've come to the realization that nothing matters (srs)(no depression)

[DangerDan]

We are all just giant blobs of self replicating atoms that are self aware. Anything we feel, taste, touch, smell, see, is just the process of these atoms working together to form something in our minds. We are not free, there is no free will. Free will is a nonsensical term. Because in order to make decisions, you must have inclinations towards something, and you cannot have that without knowledge. But knowledge affects our decisions. If I have knowledge that something will hurt me, and I don't have any reason to do this thing, I will not do it. No sane person would. And the insane person that would is not free, he makes his irrational decision because his brain is fukked. Our sadness, when someone dies, is just a feeling that we're programmed to feel. And in the grand scheme of things, we are all nothing. We are a tiny water molecule in the ocean that is the universe. If I die, hell if everyone died, nothing would change. The world would keep turning, and the planets and stars and galaxies would still be there. And if we are not free, and our actions are determined, then altruism doesn't exist. Everything nice anyone has ever done for you has not been in your best interest, it has been in theirs. Your girlfriend, your mother, your friends, the only reason they did anything nice was for their own fulfillment of their desires, not yours. Maybe helping you made them feel better, maybe it was just a natural instinct to help you. I believe altruism is also nonsensical. I don't think you can do anything for any purely selfless reasons. I know some people are going to bring up some objectionable situations and scenarios, but even the most selfless thing, like diving on a grenade to save your comrades, is the product of training, or human instincts, not selfless care and compassion for fellow man. Only material things exist, and feelings are just nerves in our brains being stimulated. Nothing spiritual, nothing metaphysical. We just are. Everything you see is all that is and ever was. There probably isn't a heaven, or hell, or God, or gods. There probably isn't an afterlife. When we die, we are probably dead, non-existent, and we turn to dirt. I was recently very depressed about all of this, but I realized it doesn't matter. **** it. Live your life. I'm just going to do what feels good from now until the end, to live it up, and do everything I want, to please my human nature and what are perceived as feelings. We have evolved to live this way and it's probably the best way.

No cliffs.

Good night misc.

[lucious]

how do you know were giant blobs of atoms?



how do you explain consciousness?

[Yea_I_Guess]

lotta depression in the misc lately

must be the winter cold coming soon

[disphugginflip]

We are all just giant blobs of self replicating atoms that are self aware. Anything we feel, taste, touch, smell, see, is just the process of these atoms working together to form something in our minds. We are not free, there is no free will. Free will is a nonsensical term. Because in order to make decisions, you must have inclinations towards something, and you cannot have that without knowledge. But knowledge affects our decisions. If I have knowledge that something will hurt me, and I don't have any reason to do this thing, I will not do it. No sane person would. And the insane person that would is not free, he makes his irrational decision because his brain is fukked. Our sadness, when someone dies, is just a feeling that we're programmed to feel. And in the grand scheme of things, we are all nothing. We are a tiny water molecule in the ocean that is the universe. If I die, hell if everyone died, nothing would change. The world would keep turning, and the planets and stars and galaxies would still be there. And if we are not free, and our actions are determined, then altruism doesn't exist. Everything nice anyone has ever done for you has not been in your best interest, it has been in theirs. Your girlfriend, your mother, your friends, the only reason they did anything nice was for their own fulfillment of their desires, not yours. Maybe helping you made them feel better, maybe it was just a natural instinct to help you. I believe altruism is also nonsensical. I don't think you can do anything for any purely selfless reasons. I know some people are going to bring up some objectionable situations and scenarios, but even the most selfless thing, like diving on a grenade to save your comrades, is the product of training, or human instincts, not selfless care and compassion for fellow man. Only material things exist, and feelings are just nerves in our brains being stimulated. Nothing spiritual, nothing metaphysical. We just are. Everything you see is all that is and ever was. There probably isn't a heaven, or hell, or God, or gods. There probably isn't an afterlife. When we die, we are probably dead, non-existent, and we turn to dirt. I was recently very depressed about all of this, but I realized it doesn't matter. **** it. Live your life. I'm just going to do what feels good from now until the end, to live it up, and do everything I want, to please my human nature and what are perceived as feelings. We have evolved to live this way and it's probably the best way.

No cliffs.

Good night misc.

Tl:dr

Nihilistic much? Thinking about that shyt makes people depressed.

[lucious]

lotta depression in the misc lately

must be the winter cold coming soon

its baseless depression.....



i always love the whole "Youre just a bunch of neurons and chemicals" said as if they know this for sure.....





riddle me this brah, why would neurons be capable of this 'first person perspective' that were all so familiar with, but cannot touch taste or feel? Wouldnt a moving mound of atoms, be simply that- a moving mound of atoms? They cant create illusions.

[Idontlikeit]

thats deep man

[KillDowzer]

Think about this everyday

[exy]

how do you know were giant blobs of atoms?



how do you explain consciousness?

GOD

think about it for two seconds

it's a result of an intelligently put together bunch of atoms. take a science course, it will come apparent that there is no god.

[1GGY]

didn't read lol

[terzter]

Atman is Brahman.

We are beyond our rational neuro-circuit.

[bwoh]

We are all just giant blobs of self replicating atoms that are self aware. Anything we feel, taste, touch, smell, see, is just the process of these atoms working together to form something in our minds. We are not free, there is no free will. Free will is a nonsensical term. Because in order to make decisions, you must have inclinations towards something, and you cannot have that without knowledge. But knowledge affects our decisions. If I have knowledge that something will hurt me, and I don't have any reason to do this thing, I will not do it. No sane person would. And the insane person that would is not free, he makes his irrational decision because his brain is fukked. Our sadness, when someone dies, is just a feeling that we're programmed to feel. And in the grand scheme of things, we are all nothing. We are a tiny water molecule in the ocean that is the universe. If I die, hell if everyone died, nothing would change. The world would keep turning, and the planets and stars and galaxies would still be there. And if we are not free, and our actions are determined, then altruism doesn't exist. Everything nice anyone has ever done for you has not been in your best interest, it has been in theirs. Your girlfriend, your mother, your friends, the only reason they did anything nice was for their own fulfillment of their desires, not yours. Maybe helping you made them feel better, maybe it was just a natural instinct to help you. I believe altruism is also nonsensical. I don't think you can do anything for any purely selfless reasons. I know some people are going to bring up some objectionable situations and scenarios, but even the most selfless thing, like diving on a grenade to save your comrades, is the product of training, or human instincts, not selfless care and compassion for fellow man. Only material things exist, and feelings are just nerves in our brains being stimulated. Nothing spiritual, nothing metaphysical. We just are. Everything you see is all that is and ever was. There probably isn't a heaven, or hell, or God, or gods. There probably isn't an afterlife. When we die, we are probably dead, non-existent, and we turn to dirt. I was recently very depressed about all of this, but I realized it doesn't matter. **** it. Live your life. I'm just going to do what feels good from now until the end, to live it up, and do everything I want, to please my human nature and what are perceived as feelings. We have evolved to live this way and it's probably the best way.

No cliffs.

Good night misc.

I got to this conclusion a few days ago. I had these same thoughts and I completely agree. Explains religion too.

[roms15]

there is a god and his son is jesus christ

[usernaem]

No spoiler tag! Just halfway through The Selfish Gene by Dawkins... Thanks for ruining the rest of the book brah! (notsrs)

Anyway, so what? Knowing it's like this doesn't change anything either.

[82ndSergeant]

I get it. Life can seem so all-encompassing that we start asking bigger questions like "Why am I doing this?" "Why does this matter?" "Why do I feel this way?"
It's perfectly legitimate to minimize our existence down to atoms, cells, and water. In the end, ashes to ashes-dust to dust.

I've been feeling it lately, too. Everyday I ask why I had to do certain things in my life, and why I listened to other people about the great NEED to attend college when it cost me 80 grand in student loans. It's like, why the fawk did I do so many things that I really didn't want to do? It pisses me off and makes me want to rage. It was always my dads dream for me to go to college but he bailed when I was eleven and now I'm saddled with debt that I didn't want in the first place. It reminds me of the movie "Fight Club" where Tyler Durden is sitting in the bathtub talking to Edward Norton about his dad and how he lived for all the things that his father wanted. A generation of men raised by women. That's where I fall. That's where so many of us fall.

So now...I'm on a path to doing exactly what I want to do, for myself. No more "following the leader" bull**** to take me away from who I am. It stresses me out, but I've spent enough time feeling bad about it all. In the end I ask the same questions, and try to work my life down to the simplest form. There's some kind of comfort in that. We can all appreciate simplicity.

[onebigc]

eh nm

[Del-Valle]

how do you know were giant blobs of atoms?



how do you explain consciousness?

Complex interactions of chemicals and electricity in the brain causing a highly advanced nervous system.

[buckfangs]

[BulmersOriginal]

[Aussie939291]

shouldn't that be a reason to live it up and do what you want?

[rusk90]

didn't read lol

dis

[Cell-Tech]

Didn't read your whole post.

We are all just giant blobs of self replicating atoms that are self aware. Anything we feel, taste, touch, smell, see, is just the process of these atoms working together to form something in our minds. We are not free, there is no free will. Free will is a nonsensical term.

But from this, I agree with everything. That doesn't mean nothing matters though. Regardless of what happiness is or where it comes from it affects us the same way and it's a good thing. Pursuing happiness in life is important because of how it makes us feel. If that feeling is just electrochemical reactions in a complex system of atoms... it makes no difference.

[AJM1613]

Either nothing matters or everything matters. Live your life whatever way makes you feel comfortable.

[Fowles]

I realised the exact same thing while on mushrooms in the middle of the woods.(srs)

[EasTexan]

riddle me this brah, why would neurons be capable of this 'first person perspective' that were all so familiar with, but cannot touch taste or feel? Wouldnt a moving mound of atoms, be simply that- a moving mound of atoms? They cant create illusions.

Many small parts make a whole? Not a complicated concept.

Now, consciousness itself is obviously very complex, but I see no reason to believe it is not emergent from some physical process.

[ThePhenom21]

**** yeah nihilism. what we do in life doesnt even matter, because in the end, we will be rotting in the ground. so live it up ****ers

[_Ryan_]

...........Nothing spiritual, nothing metaphysical. We just are. Everything you see is all that is and ever was. There probably isn't a heaven, or hell, or God, or gods........

Worth a read if you feel that way.

[UAGreg]

[stezus]

We are all just giant blobs of self replicating atoms that are self aware. Anything we feel, taste, touch, smell, see, is just the process of these atoms working together to form something in our minds. We are not free, there is no free will. Free will is a nonsensical term. Because in order to make decisions, you must have inclinations towards something, and you cannot have that without knowledge. But knowledge affects our decisions. If I have knowledge that something will hurt me, and I don't have any reason to do this thing, I will not do it. No sane person would. And the insane person that would is not free, he makes his irrational decision because his brain is fukked. Our sadness, when someone dies, is just a feeling that we're programmed to feel. And in the grand scheme of things, we are all nothing. We are a tiny water molecule in the ocean that is the universe. If I die, hell if everyone died, nothing would change. The world would keep turning, and the planets and stars and galaxies would still be there. And if we are not free, and our actions are determined, then altruism doesn't exist. Everything nice anyone has ever done for you has not been in your best interest, it has been in theirs. Your girlfriend, your mother, your friends, the only reason they did anything nice was for their own fulfillment of their desires, not yours. Maybe helping you made them feel better, maybe it was just a natural instinct to help you. I believe altruism is also nonsensical. I don't think you can do anything for any purely selfless reasons. I know some people are going to bring up some objectionable situations and scenarios, but even the most selfless thing, like diving on a grenade to save your comrades, is the product of training, or human instincts, not selfless care and compassion for fellow man. Only material things exist, and feelings are just nerves in our brains being stimulated. Nothing spiritual, nothing metaphysical. We just are. Everything you see is all that is and ever was. There probably isn't a heaven, or hell, or God, or gods. There probably isn't an afterlife. When we die, we are probably dead, non-existent, and we turn to dirt. I was recently very depressed about all of this, but I realized it doesn't matter. **** it. Live your life. I'm just going to do what feels good from now until the end, to live it up, and do everything I want, to please my human nature and what are perceived as feelings. We have evolved to live this way and it's probably the best way.

No cliffs.

Good night misc.

free will isn't so easily dismissed. you probably think you have things figured out and the search is over, but you won't be satisfied with your new outlook for very long. soon enough you'll see reality isn't quite how you've interpreted it, and you'll be back to trying to wrap your mind around what is true. admitting you don't know is progress, you know.

[jayshmo]

phuck you and your god damn thread, phuck N.K, phuck wikileaks, Phuck the news stations, phuck the middle east

Why cant I just live my life with out people always trying to bring everyone else down around them.

phuck

[SompletelyCober]

The nihilism threads always remind me of Dostoevsky- specifically his short story, "The Dream of a Ridiculous Man."

OP and others in this thread should check out this short story. Easily one of the best I've ever read.

Although the first time I read it, it made me happy and the second time it made me depressed.

http://www.fiftytwostories.com/?p=270