what is everyones opinion on Zottman Curls?
I was thinking of using them as part of my workout to rebuild the strengthin my ham=nd and forearm when the cast is taken off my hand tomorrow.
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07-06-2011, 07:41 PM #1
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07-06-2011, 08:09 PM #2~ I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. ~
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07-06-2011, 08:11 PM #3
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07-07-2011, 02:47 AM #4
I am not a fan. When I have done them in the past, they have caused elbow pain. I found that if I used a weight that was heavy enough to feel in the biceps, the elbows hurt. If I went too light to relieve stress from the elbows, I did not feel anything in the biceps.
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07-07-2011, 03:36 AM #5
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07-07-2011, 03:39 AM #6
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07-07-2011, 06:39 AM #7
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07-07-2011, 07:45 AM #8
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Can't be bothered. To me you don't get the best of either move (curls, reverse curls) doing them. I normally do my barbell curls, preachers, and a set or two of reverses. The only argument that might be advanced for them is one of efficiency (use of very little time); but I think this might apply to a newb in a rec room or hotel gym hurrying off to something than a serious bodybuilder.
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07-07-2011, 08:43 AM #9
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Guess I'll be googling Zottman just out of curiousity.
Even using the curl bar gives you grief?
I haven't been able to use the straight bar for years since my very annoying bout with tennis elbow (I hate that term) in both arms.
Curl bar works great for me with no elbow grief.
(I'm with you on the hammers)
Carry on....back to Zottman.
EDIT: just saw a vid....I'm not enthralled and won't be adding them which is not to say they don't have their benefits. I'm a *compound* kinda guy anyway.USMC: 1965-1969
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07-07-2011, 09:47 AM #10
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07-07-2011, 10:51 AM #11
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07-07-2011, 04:06 PM #12
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07-07-2011, 04:14 PM #13
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Glad you liked em' Jack. I think they add overall thickness to the arm through the heavy brachialis involvement. I fell into them after elbow soreness from bb curls and general boredom with curls although I do spiders on a reverse preacher. Little tweaks keep me going after all these years plus it adds variety.
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07-07-2011, 04:17 PM #14
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07-07-2011, 04:20 PM #15
Did zottmans as part of my workout had to start light seeing as the cast came off today and that hand is weak,but lets just put it like this I loved them so much that if I was single and they where a woman i'd marry them.lol
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07-07-2011, 06:51 PM #16~ I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. ~
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~when brain surgery, or string theory, or the NFL draft, or women's dress sizes, or white wine is being discussed, I remain quiet, odd though that may seem. But seldom is this the case when orthopedic surgeons, athletic trainers, physical therapists, or nurses are asked about full squats~RIP
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07-07-2011, 06:54 PM #17
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07-07-2011, 07:35 PM #18
When I was a kid at the neighborhood gym, which was primarily a powerlifting gym, the most powerfully-built men did heavy Zotts -- exercising a bit of "English." Although I had an interest in them, I didn't dare deviate from the routine prepared for me by the gym owner. It wasn't until my body matured that I got the hang of them. They were fantastic! I swear they made my upper arms and my forearms thicker on the outside.
However, as a rehab exercise for an arm coming out of a cast, it sounds risky for injury.
Haven't done them in years. Gonna change up the routine to include them for a while.
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07-07-2011, 08:30 PM #19
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07-07-2011, 08:32 PM #20
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07-08-2011, 08:32 AM #21
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07-08-2011, 08:54 AM #22
I don't really understand why someone would perform the Zottman curl (over many other options of bicep exercises). You get the benefit of a dumbell curl, and the negative of a reverse curl. Why not just perform dumbell curls followed by reverse curls and get the positive and negative of both movements?
I suppose there may be benefit in doing this exercise just to change up the routine but I'm not sure it should feature prominently given the finite number of exercises that one would want to perform during any biceps workout.
Regardless, it's certainly not going to hurt and its better than nothing. I just think there are a variety of better exercises. Suggest using this only as a change of pace, not a permanent or foundation fixture."Our side of the barbed wire."
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