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    Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    Not even nudes would make me divulge that information so soon.
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    Agreed!


    Personally though, from using both in bulk form, agmatime gives a better visual pump, CM gives more of a performance boosting pump.

    Mike
    I agree agmatine does provide a better pump, I also feel my BP rises at a slower/stable rate compared to citrulline with no headaches.
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    Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    Not even nudes would make me divulge that information so soon.
    I look at your avatar, and I'm so confused right now.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    I agree agmatine does provide a better pump, I also feel my BP rises at a slower/stable rate compared to citrulline with no headaches.
    Por que rises?
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    Originally Posted by poison View Post
    I look at your avatar, and I'm so confused right now.
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    Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    I'll let you know if we have an ETA, in your thread.
    thanks!
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    Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    Why choose, you'll be able to get them both at an extremely affordable price very soon. We should have our bulk CM powder debuting soon.
    oh hell yes. Going to be all over this. Agmatine has been great to use but i feel like its on some days and off the next. Hoping some solid doses of cit mal bulk will do the trick
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    How would you guys dose Citrulline Mallate and Agmantine when taking them together?

    What time/s in the day would you take them?
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    my vote x citrulline m but both is better
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    Originally Posted by Gazi View Post
    How would you guys dose Citrulline Mallate and Agmantine when taking them together?

    What time/s in the day would you take them?

    6/8 g citrulline pre wo 1 g agmantine
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    Originally Posted by Hyruliangoat View Post
    Agmantine

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    op maybe u should look for the delicious lemon powder it may hold what u seek and u wont have to bust ur head ti pick one
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    Originally Posted by nattyman1981 View Post
    6/8 g citrulline pre wo 1 g agmantine
    Holy ****. Your forearm is inhuman.
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    4g CM + 500mg Agmatine = amazing pump
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    Originally Posted by R3T3K View Post
    Holy ****. Your forearm is inhuman.
    ahahah lol is a rest day pics
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    I'm taking 4g CM right now. Pump is good. Hard to say with results.
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    Strength athletes train better with citrulline malate
    Take 8 g citrulline malate before pumping iron and you’ll manage more reps per set. The more sets you manage, the bigger the effect, sports scientists at the University of Cordoba, Spain, discovered when they did experiments with bodybuilders.


    Citrulline malate was a popular supplement among cyclists in the seventies and eighties. And going by the stories it worked too. Hardly surprising if you look at what physiology textbooks have to say.

    Citrulline converts slowly in the body into arginine, an amino acid that is released as proteins break down. One of the end products of this breakdown is ammonia. High amounts of ammonia in your blood make you tired and prevent glucose being turned into energy. If you take citrulline or arginine, your body removes the ammonia more quickly from your blood.

    Malic acid or apple acid is released during the citric acid cycle. It prevents muscle cells from making lactic acid and stimulates the production of pyruvate, which supplies energy.

    Both arginine and malate enable muscle cells to produce aerobic energy for longer, and delay the moment at which hardworking muscle cells resort to their ATP.

    In theory. There is little research that actually confirms this. Researchers don't even know if and how citrulline malate improves strenght athletes' workouts.

    That’s why the Spaniards conducted an experiment. They got bodybuilders to train their chest muscles by doing 16 sets in one go, on one occasion after taking a placebo [PLAC], and on another one hour after taking 8 g citrulline malate [CM].


    The test subjects started with 4 sets of bench presses at 80 percent of the weight at which they could just manage 1 rep [S1 – S4]. Then they did 4 sets of incline bench presses [S5 – S8], followed by 4 sets of flies [S9 – S12] and finally 4 sets of bench presses [S’1 – S’4]. All sets were done at failure: the bodybuilders did as many reps per set as they could. That’s overdoing it if you aren’t using any forbidden substances, but guarantees muscle exhaustion.

    As the training progressed, the effect of the supplement became clearer. The bodybuilders who had taken citrulline malate managed more reps. The figure below shows the number of reps the bodybuilders managed during set S3. And the figure below that shows the reps they made during set S’4, the very last set of the training session.
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    Interesting.. As far as overall vasodilation and muscle fullness goes, I don't notice a major difference between CM and Agmatine. Having a low body fat content contributes more to how vascular you will be than anything else. The most impactful difference I've seen between the two is that CM causes flatulents that smell like a run-off sewer of an underground slaughterhouse in china town, whereas Agmatine has no putrid side effect.
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    Originally Posted by ThrashMetal View Post
    Interesting.. As far as overall vasodilation and muscle fullness goes, I don't notice a major difference between CM and Agmatine. Having a low body fat content contributes more to how vascular you will be than anything else. The most impactful difference I've seen between the two is that CM causes flatulents that smell like a run-off sewer of an underground slaughterhouse in china town, whereas Agmatine has no putrid side effect.
    Weird, I haven't noticed that.
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    Really? It's the only supplement that does that to me. It's pretty fierce. Every single time I take it.
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    Originally Posted by ThrashMetal View Post
    Interesting.. As far as overall vasodilation and muscle fullness goes, I don't notice a major difference between CM and Agmatine. Having a low body fat content contributes more to how vascular you will be than anything else. The most impactful difference I've seen between the two is that CM causes flatulents that smell like a run-off sewer of an underground slaughterhouse in china town, whereas Agmatine has no putrid side effect.
    lol i noticed that too and tied it to only days i take 2 scoops of hemavol so it prbly is the CM.
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    Hmm I went through a bottle of Agmatine, it's one of the most over-rated supplements talked about on these forums lately.

    I noticed a bit of a pump from it at 1g preworkout, when taken with 1 scoop of glycergrow the pumps were amazing.

    I just received 225g of Citrulline Malate today though so I'll update on which one I prefer in a couple weeks.
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    I use ag for more than the pump.


    Gyclergrow is controlled labs worst product IMO. It's a cosmetic pump.


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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    I use ag for more than the pump.


    Gyclergrow is controlled labs worst product IMO. It's a cosmetic pump.


    Worthless.
    Didn't say it was any more than cosmetic.
    And I didn't notice any effects from agmatine other than a little pump.
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    I use ag for more than the pump.
    Have you honestly seen benefits other than pumps?
    I haven't.
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    Hemavol not on BodyBuilding site?

    Why isn't Hemavol sold on this site? Tried to buy it today and had to go to Amazon.
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    Originally Posted by bulkymikey View Post
    Why isn't Hemavol sold on this site? Tried to buy it today and had to go to Amazon.
    Strong bump

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    Originally Posted by ajvitan View Post
    Strong bump

    bb.com doesn't like iForce and other good supp companies. Google is your friend.
    Lol, yeah they shoul carry Hemavol(awesome nonstim pwo) but would cost too much
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    I use ag for more than the pump.


    Gyclergrow is controlled labs worst product IMO. It's a cosmetic pump.


    Worthless.
    GlycerGrow is probably selling even better now that ArA is picking up steam. Its the only reason I'd ever buy GG.
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    Originally Posted by Knolls View Post
    Lol, yeah they shoul carry Hemavol(awesome nonstim pwo) but would cost too much
    If BB.com carried it, it would be the same price here as elsewhere ~$31.99/tub.
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