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    Originally Posted by Flex509 View Post
    Now that I think about it I did see one built guy but, he had a huge gut to go along with it. Guess he was bulking or something :-P
    Uh, that was probably me...

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    Originally Posted by Flex509 View Post
    Whats going on here? Is it not as popular now with
    the younger generations??
    I'm not sure it ever was that popular, either. I remember back in the 70's and there were just a few of us, relatively speaking, in the gym, day after day.

    People have mentioned hard work and discipline in this thread already. That does seem to separate bodybuilders from the rest of the herd.

    How many of you have met people who are envious of what you've accomplished but seem to always have an excuse for not doing it? Not enough time, don't want to eat like that, women don't like men with muscles, etc., etc., ...

    We're a minority and as ironwill2008 put it: "I like it that way just fine."

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    I think bodybuilding has always been a niche interest. However, the general interest in working out and physical fitness has increased dramatically in my lifetime. Whether that interest translates into dedicated gym time and lifestyle changes is another story...
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    Originally Posted by pharmamarketer View Post
    ...Oh and is KeithThe Snake Flex509 or is Flex 509 BladeRunner 1811 hmmmmm.....
    No, man, I'm just me. As a matter of fact, I think Flex509 once posted that he had a strong urge to neg me. Dunno why. I think it was just a misunderstanding.
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    Originally Posted by kimsquit View Post
    hard work and self-discipline are as popular as ever
    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    The phrase I hear people using more and more is "Beach Body", which seems to me to be today's version of the word "toned".

    No heavy lifting required. Just starve yourself until you have a visible 6-pack, and hit the gym every day for some cardio or TRX or bicep curls.

    That said, 20+ years ago when I started not many were really into "Body Building" either.
    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Bodybuilding has never been "popular" with the masses. IMO, that's as it should be, and I like it that way just fine.
    These. I wish it was popular. I imagine how cool it would be if everyone lived this lifestyle. We wouldn't have to worry about healthcare the way we do now. People would not be as stressed out. Etc.
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    Originally Posted by GreenWave1 View Post
    These. I wish it was popular. I imagine how cool it would be if everyone lived this lifestyle. We wouldn't have to worry about healthcare the way we do now. People would not be as stressed out. Etc.
    And we could make an absolute killing...selling curling racks...
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    Ok lets just cut the bs and the wankful thinking here and get to the heart of the matter!

    How are we going to popularize bodybuilding in the mainstream 100% and in a positive manner?
    Who would be the best spokes person to present Bodybuilding in a postive lite without all the jive-shucking,snakeoil huksterism that currently has bodybuilding in a death grip.

    That means we need to find someone who has the following:

    1) Integrity
    2) Intelligence
    3)Charisma
    4) Is approachable and freindly
    5) has a physique people of all ages and both genders can admire,and men can easily achieve though hard training,dedication and proper diet
    6) dresses,talks walks and acts like a mature adult who has class and not some sideshow phoney baloney thug off the street that would probbably run shrieking down the steet if my 97 year old grandmother sneezed as she passed by him on the sidewalk,because the sound of a sneeze scares him.

    Any ideas? know anyone that fits all six??
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    Originally Posted by Bladerunner1811 View Post
    Ok lets just cut the bs and the wankful thinking here and get to the heart of the matter!

    How are we going to popularize bodybuilding in the mainstream 100% and in a positive manner?
    Who would be the best spokes person to present Bodybuilding in a postive lite without all the jive-shucking,snakeoil huksterism that currently has bodybuilding in a death grip.

    That means we need to find someone who has the following:

    1) Integrity
    2) Intelligence
    3)Charisma
    4) Is approachable and freindly
    5) has a physique people of all ages and both genders can admire,and men can easily achieve though hard training,dedication and proper diet
    6) dresses,talks walks and acts like a mature adult who has class and not some sideshow phoney baloney thug off the street that would probbably run shrieking down the steet if my 97 year old grandmother sneezed as she passed by him on the sidewalk,because the sound of a sneeze scares him.

    Any ideas? know anyone that fits all six??
    Post a pic of yourself; you just might be the guy.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Post a pic of yourself; you just might be the guy.
    I thought it was me, until I saw the sneezing thing. Dang it.
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    Originally Posted by djflex View Post
    Not since joe weider died
    I didn't know Joe died but I did know Ben Weider passed away.

    Quick search on google leads me to a bunch of b.s...can anyone confirm that Joe Weider is actually dead or are the 2 brothers being confused?
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Post a pic of yourself; you just might be the guy.
    Sorry I am def not the guy.And even if I fit all that I posted i'd still not want the task because I prefer not to be in the limelight!
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    Originally Posted by ArchAngel'73 View Post
    I didn't know Joe died but I did know Ben Weider passed away.

    Quick search on google leads me to a bunch of b.s...can anyone confirm that Joe Weider is actually dead or are the 2 brothers being confused?
    Thanks in advance, and greens available.
    Nothing about Joe passing on Flexonline, Brian. I'd think they'd have the story if it's in fact true.

    Ben passed away back in '08, IIRC.
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    This is a very interesting topic for me, as classic martial arts have kind of fallen victim to the same phenomena. There are two reasons for the decline in bodybuilding:

    1) The pick-up-artist boom and the current perception is that most women prefer the classic Greek physique which is mildly muscular and cut.
    2) Used to be that men perceived big built guys as tough and invincible. Then these videos hit the web:



    Karate, kung fu and all the other classic martial arts have also been a victim of the Gracie marketing machine. What has been lost (for numerous reasons) is the true arts in their complete form, which really were not designed for cage fighting.
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    Originally Posted by NYkarate View Post
    This is a very interesting topic for me, as classic martial arts have kind of fallen victim to the same phenomena. There are two reasons for the decline in bodybuilding:

    1) The pick-up-artist boom and the current perception is that most women prefer the classic Greek physique which is mildly muscular and cut.
    2) Used to be that men perceived big built guys as tough and invincible. Then these videos hit the web:



    Karate, kung fu and all the other classic martial arts have also been a victim of the Gracie marketing machine. What has been lost (for numerous reasons) is the true arts in their complete form, which really were not designed for cage fighting.
    Welcome to Martial Arts American style.Thats one reason I have walked away from the martial arts,it's all become a game.
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    Originally Posted by Bladerunner1811 View Post
    ...How are we going to popularize bodybuilding in the mainstream 100% and in a positive manner?
    When we find the perfect drugs that make bodybuilding a LOT easier than most of us know it to be now. Otherwise people discover it's a slow process characterized by hard work and get disillusioned with it quickly. You know, like the January resolution-ers who stop coming to the gym by February.

    You would think that will all the press that bulkier physiques have gotten lately in movies that the public would be more into bodybuilding. Movies like Thor ("Chris Hemsworth gets too muscular for his costume!"), Taylor Lautner bulking up for the Twilight films, and Chris Evans beefing up for Captain America.

    With these popular films showcasing basically bodybuilding-built bods one would expect to see folks flocking to the gyms.

    But they aren't.

    I don't want to discourage your idea- if you have a plan and the desire to make bodybuilding mainstream, more power to you. But I think until they find that rumored myostantin blocker, or steriods become legal, or there is some other "make-building-muscle-easier-and-faster" breakthrough it's not going to work.

    It's easier to pick up a TV remote than a dumbbell.

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    Originally Posted by Zeke5 View Post
    When we find the perfect drugs that make bodybuilding a LOT easier than most of us know it to be now. Otherwise people discover it's a slow process characterized by hard work and get disillusioned with it quickly. You know, like the January resolution-ers who stop coming to the gym by February.

    You would think that will all the press that bulkier physiques have gotten lately in movies that the public would be more into bodybuilding. Movies like Thor ("Chris Hemsworth gets too muscular for his costume!"), Taylor Lautner bulking up for the Twilight films, and Chris Evans beefing up for Captain America.

    With these popular films showcasing basically bodybuilding-built bods one would expect to see folks flocking to the gyms.

    But they aren't.

    I don't want to discourage your idea- if you have a plan and the desire to make bodybuilding mainstream, more power to you. But I think until they find that rumored myostantin blocker, or steriods become legal, or there is some other "make-building-muscle-easier-and-faster" breakthrough it's not going to work.

    It's easier to pick up a TV remote than a dumbbell.

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    Well that would just suck if it was easy i'd stop working out because it would be boring!
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Nothing about Joe passing on Flexonline, Brian. I'd think they'd have the story if it's in fact true.

    Ben passed away back in '08, IIRC.
    Thanks Will.
    I was hoping that was false.
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    Originally Posted by Nikonguy View Post
    Ho Lee Phuck! Trolls are trollin trolls up in here!

    looks as though I repped you recently...would have gotten you again for that one. LOL
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    Originally Posted by Bladerunner1811 View Post
    Welcome to Martial Arts American style.Thats one reason I have walked away from the martial arts,it's all become a game.
    All depends where you train and who you train under. There are still great schools out there with strong roots in tradition teaching valid effective arts, places where it takes years (5+) of hard training to reach black. What does one accomplish with 5+ years of hard bodybuilding? I bet real results.
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    Originally Posted by pharmamarketer View Post
    I had to google the word brolic. Am I the only one that has never heard that word before.
    Originally Posted by Black Sunday View Post
    You're not alone
    I just looked it up myself.



    There was a "fitness fad" in the 80's, but that focused a lot more on cardio stuff from what I remember. There were a few more guys building muscle, but that faded (both the fad and their muscles ).
    A bodybuilder uses the weight to work the muscle.

    There are no accidents. Everything happens for a reason and usually at exactly the right time.

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    Cheez! What's with teh Ebonics up in here?
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    That sh!t drives me nuts when my nieces and nephew see a skinny f'ck with a six pack and say, he is brolic
    Originally Posted by MMAnWEED View Post
    You have to realize that most people don't have the motivation or true understanding of bodybuilding or powerlifting to realize what truly qualifies as "brolic".
    Originally Posted by Bladerunner1811 View Post
    Thank god for google or i'd still be wondering what the hell brolic means.LOL
    Originally Posted by pharmamarketer View Post
    I had to google the word brolic. Am I the only one that has never heard that word before. It was used two times in here. I feel stupit.
    Originally Posted by Black Sunday View Post
    You're not alone
    Originally Posted by BergMuscle View Post
    I just looked it up myself.
    Seems like you learn something new every day.
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    Weider Inc tried to get bodybuilding on the Olympic stage and popularise it but the drugs issue will always hamper it. How many times have you guys been accused of taking gear when in reality many years of consistent training and diet is in fact the reason? I hear it all the time and am sick of trying to defend the innocent against the mentally impared who are too lazy to discipline themselves, and would rather accuse others of taking stuff than admit they earned it. Lets face it, the Olympia boys today are freaks, the days of Frank Zane, Bob Paris etc are long gone, having competed and attended National competions, these guys would qualify for the top 6 now! Bodybuilding as a sport has no credibility, and unfortunately this slides down to us guys who work at it.

    Ultimately we do it for ourselves, and I'm with Ironwill too....let's keep it that way!

    Where I live there are 4 types;

    1. The competitor (as rare as rocking horse poo nowadays)
    2. The juiced up 'I want to look massive with my water retention in my T-shirt'
    3. The dedicated and consistent gym goer/bodybuilder as I believe we all are on this site
    4. The 'put it all down to gear' procrastinator, who wouldn't know a Gym from a Jim!
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    Originally Posted by Bladerunner1811 View Post
    Ok lets just cut the bs and the wankful thinking here and get to the heart of the matter!

    How are we going to popularize bodybuilding in the mainstream 100% and in a positive manner?
    Who would be the best spokes person to present Bodybuilding in a postive lite without all the jive-shucking,snakeoil huksterism that currently has bodybuilding in a death grip.

    That means we need to find someone who has the following:

    1) Integrity
    2) Intelligence
    3)Charisma
    4) Is approachable and freindly
    5) has a physique people of all ages and both genders can admire,and men can easily achieve though hard training,dedication and proper diet
    6) dresses,talks walks and acts like a mature adult who has class and not some sideshow phoney baloney thug off the street that would probbably run shrieking down the steet if my 97 year old grandmother sneezed as she passed by him on the sidewalk,because the sound of a sneeze scares him.
    7) Elbows not too pointy.

    Any ideas? know anyone that fits all six??
    Well, there was this guy...

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    No,

    For the general public its to much work in the gym, to much discipline at the buffet table. They'd rather keep eating crap at McDonalds and their head in a online game, laptop, or iphone.

    I workout hard and eat well. I have ''sacrificed' internet, youtube, online games, tv, movies etc... because its worth it to ME. My friends have chosen fat not fit.

    I see many more fit women then men in general around here. So many fit ladies with fat boyfriends/husbands. At the gym the women outnumber the men big time. Not in the weight room but in the classes and in the cardio area. But even last night the weightroom was about 50/50.
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    Originally Posted by Nikonguy View Post
    Well, there was this guy...

    Well,if pro-bodybulding orgs ever makes that physique and level of definition the thing again,i'll be shocked into a coma!
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    Originally Posted by NYkarate View Post
    All depends where you train and who you train under. There are still great schools out there with strong roots in tradition teaching valid effective arts, places where it takes years (5+) of hard training to reach black. What does one accomplish with 5+ years of hard bodybuilding? I bet real results.
    True but in my area it's mostly (to quote Sonny Chiba in his awesome movie Karate Death Champion I believe is the name)Karate Dancers.
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