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    Originally Posted by bigboybigtits View Post
    i do get what your saying, im just saying that if done right and if you dont over do it the chance of it killing you is very very small. lets put it this way out of every drug out there it has killed the least amount of ppl.
    it won't kill you directly but will contribute to the fact that you died at age 60 or younger
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    ITT OP hasn't probably even started lifting but already check out about steroids.

    good night sweet liver

    Jesus, hit them weight hard until you're 20. If you're not safisfied with your size at this point, THEN you can start thinking about juice.....

    16.... *facepalm*
    If it's not fun, why do it?
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    Originally Posted by TheExorzist View Post
    ITT OP hasn't probably even started lifting but already check out about steroids.

    good night sweet liver

    Jesus, hit them weight hard until you're 20. If you're not safisfied with your size at this point, THEN you can start thinking about juice.....

    16.... *facepalm*
    dont take orals and you will be fine
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    Originally Posted by BreezerD View Post
    Dude, I'm not some crazy anti-celltech nutter, infact I probably will take it within the next few years, but you can't deny that 1.) steroids are taxing on the organs and 2.) that this is likely to shorten one's life expectancy




    watch these

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    make sure u take it with 4loko for best results
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    Originally Posted by roronoa3000 View Post
    make sure u take it with 4loko for best results
    this guy got his masters in broscience, he knows his shiit.
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    Why phuk with your endocrine sytem? Test injections will shut down your natural testosterone supply within 2 weeks. Wait til you're 21.

    Also, you've started doing gym at 16, perfect age really. I wish I started when I was 16.
    You could make some really good gains by 21, learn what works for you and then take celltech and explode.
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    Originally Posted by roronoa3000 View Post
    make sure u take it with 4loko for best results
    Yea already knowing. Drink four 4lokos before every workout. Better then any preworkout supplement.
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    ITT OP hasn't probably even started lifting but already check out about steroids.

    good night sweet liver

    Jesus, hit them weight hard until you're 20. If you're not safisfied with your size at this point, THEN you can start thinking about juice.....

    16.... *facepalm*
    Been lifting since i joined football team at 14.
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    There's no point using it if you aren't already at a very high level in whatever sport you're competing in. Too many young people just take them to get results quick. You will be much better off if you don't use until you reach a point where they are necessary for you to step your game up a level.
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    Aware me on what the fuss is about? What is in CellTech that is of so much harm to a 16 y/o? As far as I knew it was essentially creatine.
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    Originally Posted by Nolan78 View Post
    this and you will end up with bytch tits and the worst acne in your school

    good luck with your lifting goals in 1972
    This... and you don't follow protocol............
    Working and having no expectation just means that you'll always win 100% of the time without failure

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    Originally Posted by TimmiiV View Post
    This... and you don't follow protocol............
    acne and bitch tits can easily be avoided, anyways pretty low cost to feel like a god amongst men.
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    Originally Posted by Dan333 View Post
    Aware me on what the fuss is about? What is in CellTech that is of so much harm to a 16 y/o? As far as I knew it was essentially creatine.
    just no
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    Originally Posted by Dan333 View Post
    Aware me on what the fuss is about? What is in CellTech that is of so much harm to a 16 y/o? As far as I knew it was essentially creatine.
    Mate I think you need to read the thread from start to finish and i'm sure you'll catch on. CellTech is just the codeword.
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    itt: people try to sway op from taking celltech with reasons which could be almost fully avoided if he read up about them and gained knowledge first

    however: i agree you shouldnt do it till like 20 for the sake of dat dere endocrine. the other side effects etc can be avoided to an extent
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    Originally Posted by HughMadbrough View Post
    if i was 16 again i'd start cycling right away (srs). your body is maturing and some extra testosterone will help your facial features develope better and make you a handsome mother****er....how do you think zyzz got that jaw? dude started juicing at 18, he looked like a complete beta ******* before.

    i say do it.
    why dont you do them?
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    I am pro steroids. But I will still say this. Well actually ill say I personally don't feel its wrong to take them as a teen. But it does have its permanent aide effects. No matter how long off have had a break of a year and break of 2 yrs of nothing and my test will now never go past 13nmol. In ng that's about 300 wheres norm ranges arw 250 for men 80 yrs old to 1000ng being 18 to 25.

    these lvls are after strong pcts and even being on pct for months t hope ir bring up my lvls more clomid nolva armidex all good products to do the job. I am life long burdenes with low t from doing test at 17. Do I regret it? Yes and no.

    I'd like to have normal test whil not using and super strong boners while off like I use to. No in a sense that I will have to accept that I will need hrt to not feel like a 80 yr old man.

    but why I'm not on hrt already even though I can be through my endo. I am not dumb about knowing 50 yrs into my life of constant test hrt dosing I will have some heart damage that's a fact and possible kidney damage and with time you have to increase ur hrt doses. Guys that have been on it a long time mostly older men take 300 or more mg a week to get to a normal 800ng range. So really where does it stop.

    so be warned . Maybe ull walk out of this and recover normal. Or maybe it'll be a shock and ur gonads will get confused and think its producing test for a 80 year old mans test requirement.

    possible life long soft boners that will go away if ur disrtracted for a second and sometimes not even head will get you hard. Among other things like total lack of life motivation. I am back on and feeling fine and don't think I can come off now feeling what its like to be normal again. Just scary to think after a few yrs I will prob have sone pretty bad sperm count damage.
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    Originally Posted by BreezerD View Post
    it won't kill you directly but will contribute to the fact that you died at age 60 or younger
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    Originally Posted by Josh81 View Post
    not gonna lie...arnold looks retarded in this pic (srs).

    For OP...

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    Originally Posted by HughMadbrough View Post
    if i was 16 again i'd start cycling right away (srs). your body is maturing and some extra testosterone will help your facial features develope better and make you a handsome mother****er....how do you think zyzz got that jaw? dude started juicing at 18, he looked like a complete beta ******* before.

    i say do it.
    yea no that's called genetics. Steroids will take yrs to effect stuff like that to a noticeable degree. Many teens juice all around the world and alot of them look like **** with baby faces. Look at that jacked russian kid who competes with the worlds biggest baby face if someone post him duno his name. Alex something.
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    you should do it just because you'll get some gains probably lose a lot of it plus get some bad sides due to age and overall be disappointed and realize you have more to learn about gaining muscle then just injecting oil into your ass

    its best to wait till around 25+ will make coming off cycle easier+ less sides, using such young age just makes more likely to get negative effects. Also natty levels are already high no reason to potentially hurt that by cycling.

    only way I'd risk using at 16 is if you were borderline full scholarship for a sport

    you guys talking about steroids being magic probably have never done a cycle lol they help but if you don't already look like a stud naturally your not going to magically learn how to build muscle by just injecting test
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    Originally Posted by someonefat View Post
    you should do it just because you'll get some gains probably lose a lot of it plus get some bad sides due to age and overall be disappointed and realize you have more to learn about gaining muscle then just injecting oil into your ass

    its best to wait till around 25+ will make coming off cycle easier+ less sides, using such young age just makes more likely to get negative effects. Also natty levels are already high no reason to potentially hurt that by cycling.

    only way I'd risk using at 16 is if you were borderline full scholarship for a sport

    you guys talking about steroids being magic probably have never done a cycle lol they help but if you don't already look like a stud naturally your not going to magically learn how to build muscle by just injecting test
    peak testosterone for a male is 30-35, but thats when most males use these drugs. so saying his test levels are alrdy high is utter bullshiit.
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    Originally Posted by HughMadbrough View Post
    lol please, it's well known that the amount of testosterone receptors in the face have less effect on facial maturation than total serum testosterone. thus serum testosterone have a bigger say in masculinization of the facial bones.
    ya hm 17 to 23 now nd my face has nt changed one bit. 17 to 23 of gear uage always test base. Why do I also see alot of slacked jaw *******s like myself on juice to.? Ur theory flawed . Zyzz = genetic bone structure and clenching his jaw constantly looks retarded.
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    Originally Posted by bigboybigtits View Post
    acne and bitch tits can easily be avoided, anyways pretty low cost to feel like a god amongst men.
    how u do dis? Avoid acne, i got it on my shoulders badddddddd, just started proactive, 2.5% benzol peroxide, if no work will go to 10%. PCT fuks me for acne and body odur, smell like ****.
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    Originally Posted by bigboybigtits View Post
    peak testosterone for a male is 30-35, but thats when most males use these drugs. so saying his test levels are alrdy high is utter bullshiit.
    not saying your wrong. Its been awhile since I looked at charts n studies foe this but swear it was peaked at ages 20ish to 25ish. To lazy to look up studies atm tho lol
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    Originally Posted by kbm12345 View Post
    how u do dis? Avoid acne, i got it on my shoulders badddddddd, just started proactive, 2.5% benzol peroxide, if no work will go to 10%. PCT fuks me for acne and body odur, smell like ****.
    idk too much about specifics but i have seen atricles about avoiding it. have never had acne so didnt both to read.
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    Originally Posted by kbm12345 View Post
    how u do dis? Avoid acne, i got it on my shoulders badddddddd, just started proactive, 2.5% benzol peroxide, if no work will go to 10%. PCT fuks me for acne and body odur, smell like ****.
    my back. Chest. Shoulders all broke out horribly to. Few yrs of gear well here and there I don't get any acne anymore. Its as if you get acustomed to ir. Naybe just wait it out.
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    Originally Posted by bigboybigtits View Post
    peak testosterone for a male is 30-35, but thats when most males use these drugs. so saying his test levels are alrdy high is utter bullshiit.
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    Originally Posted by HughMadbrough View Post
    lol okay...

    my theory is based on peer-reviewed studies and scientific observations, whilst your theory is based on personal experiences and guesswork.
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    Originally Posted by banky View Post
    I am pro steroids. But I will still say this. Well actually ill say I personally don't feel its wrong to take them as a teen. But it does have its permanent aide effects. No matter how long off have had a break of a year and break of 2 yrs of nothing and my test will now never go past 13nmol. In ng that's about 300 wheres norm ranges arw 250 for men 80 yrs old to 1000ng being 18 to 25.

    these lvls are after strong pcts and even being on pct for months t hope ir bring up my lvls more clomid nolva armidex all good products to do the job. I am life long burdenes with low t from doing test at 17. Do I regret it? Yes and no.

    I'd like to have normal test whil not using and super strong boners while off like I use to. No in a sense that I will have to accept that I will need hrt to not feel like a 80 yr old man.

    but why I'm not on hrt already even though I can be through my endo. I am not dumb about knowing 50 yrs into my life of constant test hrt dosing I will have some heart damage that's a fact and possible kidney damage and with time you have to increase ur hrt doses. Guys that have been on it a long time mostly older men take 300 or more mg a week to get to a normal 800ng range. So really where does it stop.

    so be warned . Maybe ull walk out of this and recover normal. Or maybe it'll be a shock and ur gonads will get confused and think its producing test for a 80 year old mans test requirement.

    possible life long soft boners that will go away if ur disrtracted for a second and sometimes not even head will get you hard. Among other things like total lack of life motivation. I am back on and feeling fine and don't think I can come off now feeling what its like to be normal again. Just scary to think after a few yrs I will prob have sone pretty bad sperm count damage.
    basically this

    and to the guy who linked those videos; they are interesting and I agree with them, but they are biased and much like the news reporters they mock they do not provide much hard evidence for their claims either. i certainly agree with the moral arguments for steroid use but that's not the matter at hand. steroids are even unhealthy for indirect reasons; for example I've gained 6kg not using steroids over the last 6 weeks, my bodyfat levels haven't noticeably increased but my systolic blood pressure has increased 20mmHg from 120/80 to 140/80 putting me from ideal to pre-hypertensive blood pressure ranges. Imagine if I put on another 10kg over the next 3 months from a steroid cycle.
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