Tipping is out of control these days

[Tex24]

again...if you waiters/bartenders make more than min. wage be happy and STFU. Any one can do your jobs. With very little or no training at all.

Hey, I'm not the one crying like a little bitch like you about tipping. GTFO *******

[Lewwwww]

I don't tip.
Your job is to wait tables, re-fill drinks, w/e. Why should I pay you more for doing what your employer is already paying you to do?

(Though in the UK tips aren't really that common and the employers pay min. wage anyway..)

[FryDude]

I was told by a fellow miscer that if you can't afford to tip on all occasions you shouldn't bother going out at all.

Not sure if srs, good thraed.

[DogEatDog3]

Hey, I'm not the one crying like a little bitch like you about tipping. GTFO *******

No you're the one crying like a little bitch because of the people that don't tip you for doing your job. Just because a job is stressful doesn't mean most people can't do it.

[ThaBadGuy]

Hey, I'm not the one crying like a little bitch like you about tipping. GTFO *******

Actually I think thats you

"i tip well when I go out because I KNOW HOW ****ING HARD WAITERS WORK."

You real mad son...its ok though.

Actually I do tip every time, and very well because its expected and I can afford it (now you furious) but I'm just stating the facts that the entire system is horrible. Waiters feel entitlement when they should not, they should be grateful for a tip not cry when someone doesn't give them extra money.

[bruzAduz]

Fuark im glad I live in Aus.. i'm getting mad just reading about the attitude given to people who don't tip where it obviously isn't deserved.

[ne12o]

You should have said something brah. 1 hour is ridiculous if they told you 20 minutes, I would've just got my money back and bounced the fuuk out

this.

[Tex24]

No you're the one crying like a little bitch because of the people that don't tip you for doing your job. Just because a job is stressful doesn't mean most people can't do it.

I'm not crying about ****, I just said they're cheap *******s. And I also said multiple times I understand when I get stiffed if my service is ****.

Actually I think thats you

"i tip well when I go out because I KNOW HOW ****ING HARD WAITERS WORK."

You real mad son...its ok though.

Actually I do tip every time, and very well because its expected and I can afford it (now you furious) but I'm just stating the facts that the entire system is horrible. Waiters feel entitlement when they should not, they should be grateful for a tip not cry when someone doesn't give them extra money.

I'm not mad at all, cause I'm the one taking your money and pulling in $100-200 a night in tips. U mad I'm bringing you water and pasta and taking an extra 20% of your bill? Yeah, u mad

[ocpunkelite86]

Waiters don't like the wages they are making...

Find a better job its as simple as that.

Not my responsibility to support your ******* asses. I tip for service that is excellent and only for service that is excellent as it is YOUR JOB to serve me the patron.

Get off your high horses with how hard your job is and how stressful it is...

BRB HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT AND BORDERLINE RETARDED CAN DO MY JOB

Real high standards to become a waiter or waitress.

You are bottom of the barrel when it comes to jobs. You get paid what you are worth.

[ne12o]

The other night I was at Denny's and was raging hard at the stupid ass server who ignored my table. I can't stand servers that 'size up' customers thinking they won't tip. I left that jerkoff a 6$ tip on a 8$ plate and his expression changed hopefully he'll learn. I deliver pizzas so I kinda know how the tipping biz works.

loled @ tipping bad service

[CatFunt]

Hey, I'm not the one crying like a little bitch like you about tipping. GTFO *******

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[ne12o]

As a waiter I get paid $2-3 an hour, so we RELY on tips to make a living. People who tip poorly piss me off. I give great service, am friendly, exceed expectations etc and I still get cheap mother ****ers who will tip 5%. *******s

stop spreading false information. The employer must make up the difference if you don't make enough tips

[SomeRandomName]

Completely depends on the time.

For everyone saying "you're a waiter anyone can do your job it's so easy blah blah blah" you are so fuucking wrong. I didn't realize how stressful waiting tables can be until I started. It truly is exhausting, and this is coming from a guy who is a partial owner and worker of a landscaping business where I shovel mulch and run wheelbarrows up hills all day in 100 degree weather.

Waiting tables is stressful and you're pre-med? Good luck with your medical school goals in 2011.

[DogEatDog3]

I'm not crying about ****, I just said they're cheap *******s. And I also said multiple times I understand when I get stiffed if my service is ****.

I'm not mad at all, cause I'm the one taking your money and pulling in $100-200 a night in tips. U mad I'm bringing you water and pasta and taking an extra 20% of your bill? Yeah, u mad

Welp, its come full circle and that last bit showed your true colors. YOU are the epitome of why people are unhappy with the tipping system and you have negated any previous statement that gave your argument any validity.

[ne12o]

Obviously you are confused. No it isn't brain surgery, but it's also not flipping burgers or sitting cashing out groceries. I'm not sure what your idea of bartending is at a busy place, but it is HARD work most of the time (if you intend at not sucking at your job).

I'm not saying it's even remotely the hardest thing out there, but the job should earn more than $7.25 an hour. But you know what? It doesn't really matter, because like I said before, i'll pass up a cheap individual such as yourself 9/10 times to the guy standing next to you who tips well. "To Insure Prompt Service".

do you even understand economics? no one is paid for how hard they have to work or how hard their job is. They are paid based on how much the employer is willing to pay and what the employee is willing to accept. If you don't like the job, you can quit... its called freedom

[Pump that iron!]

No cliffs:

I want to preface this by saying even though this is a rant, I do tip well 95% of the time usually on the high side of 15-20%.

Today I was at a BBQ place getting take out and there was a spot for tip, since I didn't have a waiter and was sitting at the counter I put 0. I noticed the cashier look at it, look at me, say something about "cheap" under his breathe, and put the receipt in another pile. My order went from "it should be about 15-20min" to almost an hour. This made me rage. I ordered my food and paid the price on the menu for my food, there was no service involved, why should I tip for that?

Tipping is voluntary extra payment for good service. What used to be 15% at dinner, or a few bucks for valet, a couple $1's for a stripper has got way too out of hand. Now convenience stores have a place for tip on their receipts. I have no problem tipping is service is good, when service is required. Put the fact that these people feel entitled to 20%, sometimes even 25% is ridiculous. These people want an extra 25% of what you just paid for say, dinner, just because they were lucky enough to have a table that bought an expensive meal. This goes for cocktail waitresses and the like. Just because you get someone rich who is dumb enough to pay for 3 $300 overpriced bottles of alcohol, do you really think you did $180 worth of service to that person? No you didn't. And I'll even go so far as to say, bartenders behind bars make so much damn money for what they do in bars/clubs with heavy traffic when people are tipping $1-2 a drink, or a % on larger orders. There is no service there, just like the take out BBQ, they literally take 10 seconds to fill a cup and hand it over.

I also want to point out these service jobs that rely heavily on tipping are the type of jobs where maybe 70% of a persons income is under the table. These people who only pay taxes on say 30% of their income are the same one bitching and wanting more socialized services to be provided for them. Yes, I'm generalizing based on my experiences and articles I've read.

in b4 didn't read
in b4 OP is cheap
in b4 bleeding hearts/waiters

No you're right. And that person who served you should be shot.

People will say: oh, but they get paid minimum wage or less. Guess what, so do folks workin' at McD's, do you tip them? How about that cleaning lady who works in your apartment? No, didn't think so.

Not my job or anyone else's to fix institutional problems in certain low paying jobs. People who take them, they should expect it and not expect handouts.

Tipping culture has gotten so out of hand, as your story illustrates, that one is PUNISHED if one doesn't tip. People who do a poor ass job and still look at me like I need to give them a tip I'm thinking to myself: you f*cking crazy? Maybe do your job right and I'll think about it.

Folks askin': you want your change back? Yeah I do muddafukka, that is $5 change there YES I WANT IT PHUCKING BACK.

[ThatRussianDude]

When did I talk about manners? Learn to stick to the topic being discussed, the idea of tipping as a % and talking about tipping people for things barely considered a service has nothing to do with how people in general act in public, i.e. holding a door for someone. Pls go.

Tipping is part of manners rofl. If its not then why the phuck would I tip the lady who cleans my hotel room after I leave? Why do waiters even get tipped rofl. That's their job to serve the people. Brb tipping doctors bc they saved my life. Brb tipping the insurance company bc they repaired my car. Don't like not getting tipped? Get another job then

[BBJarofFlies]

For the normal dinner bill of 4-6 people my family usually gives about 20-25%. Once in awhile if we get a really nice, great waiter/waitress, we sometimes give up to 40%.

My family was at Red Lobster a few months ago and got a really great waitress and food service. All our food was cooked perfectly, looked great, tasted great, and the wait times were perfect in between the appetizer and meals. The waitress was friendly, gave us as much biscuits (****ing good ass biscuits) as we wanted and refilled any time she saw empty glasses. Honestly best experience i've ever had. I think the bill came to like $120 or $130. I think we gave a $50 tip.

Some tips are ridiculous, like at take out places on the counter. But people i guess do put money in there so they will keep them on the counter if they think they can make money.


For my haircuts, i always give a $20 bill. The haircut is $12, but the barbers usually take their time, sometimes upwards of 40-45 minutes and make sure everything comes out the best of their ability. They even use a strait razor on the sideburns and back of neck to make it smooth. I've given them $25 around holidays and special events.

Im not by any means wealthy, i just don't mind spending a little bit more if i feel i've been treated with great service and need to show my appreciation and reward people for having a great establishment.

[Barbadosmisc]

I've been a waiter, and I can tell you that it's one of the least stressful jobs I've had. And this was at a busy chain restaurant. Yes you move around a lot, and it sucks when you get slammed, but then there's times when it's more laid back.

At the time I thought it was hard/stressful but now that I have a "real job" with actual responsibility I realize how easy it was compared to a desk job where people are counting on you to create presentations and to get your work done within a limited time frame. You can really f*ck things up if you're working for a small company, they're counting on you. Compare that to messing up an order or spilling a drink. It bugs me when people complain about it IMO because I know first hand it's just not that hard.

[DogEatDog3]

do you even understand economics? no one is paid for how hard they have to work or how hard their job is. They are paid based on how much the employer is willing to pay and what the employee is willing to accept. If you don't like the job, you can quit... its called freedom

cut it out with the caps, your statements aren't anymore important than anyone else in this thread.

[AreaCode201]

I'm sure every waiter/bartender posting in here reports every cent of tips they make to the IRS so they can be properly taxed on it......







...... right?

[ThaBadGuy]

I'm not mad at all, cause I'm the one taking your money and pulling in $100-200 a night in tips. U mad I'm bringing you water and pasta and taking an extra 20% of your bill? Yeah, u mad

With this, my job is done.
Thank you.

[ne12o]

cut it out with the caps, your statements aren't anymore important than anyone else in this thread.

1st) not a single letter was in caps
2nd) 0 argument
3rd) u mad

[Milo3]

Same in the UK.

Although when I was in Sydney I was forever tipping bartenders.

it's pretty standard to tip in restaurants and bars in Britain - atleast when I was there anyway. Maybe it's not as big as an issue here in America, but the whole 'tipping culture' in Britain isn't anywhere near as bad as Australia. In Australia they don't tip? I mean wtf. I'd be pissed if I was a bartender or waiter doing amazing service and wasn't getting any tips.

We get really good service in America because the waiters/bartenders know they'll get tipped if they do great service and their income of tips means a lot because those tips go along way. Tipping encourages good service and I think it's good - it works out well for both parties. You look after me well and I'll give you tip etc...

No tipping encourages a mediocre service and quite frankly, I think it's very rude not to tip if you've been given good service.

[ne12o]

tipping is the reason why service has not improved in the last 100 years in the nation but in fact deteriorated. It's basically the white knight effect.

Service in countries where there aren't tips, have much better service.

[Gt3x24x7]

I tip good based on services when I go out.

You give bad service to me = low % tip

Good = medium % tip

Outstanding = high % tip

Don't expect me to tip you well if you had horrible service ****ing kunts

[Tex24]

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Yes

Waiting tables is stressful and you're pre-med? Good luck with your medical school goals in 2011.

Completely different kinds of stress man

Welp, its come full circle and that last bit showed your true colors. YOU are the epitome of why people are unhappy with the tipping system and you have negated any previous statement that gave your argument any validity.

I'm acting up to yalls stupid ****ing comments to piss you off. Get over it.

Congrats on this thread, you have officially changed nothing.

[vertgetter]

question what if i tell the waiter i dont want to tip so may i get my own food and drink will they refuse lol serving is not a hard job. I know people with much harder job that make minimum wage.

[walkinglytote]

Ok you guys, here's the deal.

The tipping system is in place for a couple good reasons: it's actually not that easy to stay afloat in the restaurant industry. I think we all like to have restaurants around, so we should just accept that when we go out to eat, we pay the restaurant for the food and the waiter for the service. If their full wages were paid by the restaurant, the meal would be more expensive and we'd be paying them through the restaurant anyway. Secondly, with their wages depending on their quality of service, the waiters have incentive to give good service. This is important because for some reason, clientele in the food industry is rude and generally difficult as F*CK, so the money is the only incentive for the most part.

So if you say, "why should I pay the server to do his job?" UMM I don't know, why should you get paid to do your job...?

And if you say, "if they don't like it they should get a real job," excuse me but times are tough and sometimes those people are working at a restaurant as a stepping stone to their future, i.e. paying for college, or if they're older it's often because their main job is teaching or something which is a lot of work but not necessarily much pay. Anyway the education system in America is designed to get as many people as possible through college and into a good career. Unfortunately most people actually aren't very smart, so the people who really have something to offer often get shafted because things are catered to the average guy. But I digress, the point is if you judge other people for their current job, I have no words for what an entitled selfish prick you are.

And finally, if you say, "I can't afford to tip 10%," obviously you can't afford to go out to eat, I think that's pretty simple.

As for how much you should tip, 15% if the service was good, you have no issues. 20% or more if it was really outstanding, it exceeded your expectations, and especially if you can see that the restaurant is really hectic. If they made a couple mistakes, I'd say about 5-10%. This does NOT include a mistake with your food that they couldn't have noticed, as this is often a mistake with the kitchen. For example, a friend of mine once accidentally served a burger that still had the wax paper thingy on it. Of course she couldn't see it, and she thought it was a retarded mistake in the kitchen just as the customer probably did (I mean honestly, how do you put a patty on the grill and not see that there's paper on it...?).

If it's a fast food place where you order at the counter, tipping is completely optional. They don't expect a tip from anyone, it's just a nice gesture if the person was really friendly or seemed to take great care in making sure you were satisfied, or if it was really busy because even in fast food things can get pretty stressful.

Sorry, I can be pretty long-winded =P

[Jaybrahh]

So glad tipping isn't expected in my country. Seems silly to me anyway if people "expect" to be tipped, like goodworkdereman you did your job you're paid to do.