Prometheus Rising or DAA+????

[nanoROBOT]

Wanna give D-Aspartic Acid a try but not sure which would be the best option

Prometheus Rising ($32.99 / 4 weeks) has Agmatine

D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) 3,000 mg
Agmatine Sulfate 1,000 mg
Coleus Forskohii (10% Forskolin) 500 mg
R-Alpha-Lipoic Acid 300 mg

or

Adamantium ($29.99 / 4 weeks)

D-Aspartic Acid 3,000 mg
L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate (LCLT) 2,000 mg
N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine (NAT) 700 mg

or

SNS DAA Powder ($19.99 / 50 servings) + ??????


Is it worth the extra money for Prometheus Rising and Adamantium or DAA Powder + something else is a better choice?

[Mr.Cooper69]

Prometheus Rising is a sick formula. Forskolin is underdosed and R-Ala is kinda "out there," but agmatine and DAA are a great stack.

[Madevilz]

Prometheus Rising is a sick formula. Forskolin is underdosed and R-Ala is kinda "out there," but agmatine and DAA are a great stack.

Wouldnt say that Forskolin is underdosed. 50mg might not be optimal, but hardly underdosed. What's wrong with R-ALA? People seem to love it in Blueprint.

Prometheus Rising is damn solid product.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Wouldnt say that Forskolin is underdosed. 50mg is might not be optimal, but hardly underdosed. What's wrong with R-ALA? People seem to love it in Blueprint.

It's underdosed. 50mg forskolin a day won't do anything significant. I love R-Ala. It just has nothing to do with the rest of the formula, since PR is a testbooster.

[Madevilz]

It's underdosed. 50mg forskolin a day won't do anything significant. I love R-Ala. It just has nothing to do with the rest of the formula, since PR is a testbooster.

Could also call it a nutrition partitioner with the addition of Agmatine and R-ALA.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Could also call it a nutrition partitioner with the addition of Agmatine and R-ALA.

That's basically what I just said lol. It's just an odd combo of ingredients, but a damn solid product.

[Madevilz]

That's basically what I just said lol. It's just an odd combo of ingredients, but a damn solid product.

Just sayin' it's a multi purpose product
dont get mad Mr Cooper

[Mr.Cooper69]

Just sayin' it's a multi purpose product
dont get mad Mr Cooper

I'm not mad, evilz (). I agree with you.

[Irish Iron]

Id go with promethius rising, just my .2. Never had daa yet but i love agmatine

[fibercarbon]

the only Agmatine i have tried was in a sample of hemavol and it seemed legit..

[Irish Iron]

the only Agmatine i have tried was in a sample of hemavol and it seemed legit..

Try 3 or 4 caps of straight agmatine pre workout sometime and thank me later

[fibercarbon]

Try 3 or 4 caps of straight agmatine pre workout sometime and thank me later

you referring to the SNS Agmatine? cant afford it after the AI sports sale cleaned out my funds...

[Maluket]

I've been tempted to try Prometheus Rising. Good price and good ingredients, assuming your stomach can tolerate the forskolin. As for underdosing the forskolin, weren't the studies on it done at 50mg per day? That's probably why it has that amount in it. If more is better, OK. How much is "just right"?

[Madevilz]

I've been tempted to try Prometheus Rising. Good price and good ingredients, assuming your stomach can tolerate the forskolin. As for underdosing the forskolin, weren't the studies on it done at 50mg per day? That's probably why it has that amount in it. If more is better, OK. How much is "just right"?

50mg is fine, 75-100mg is optimal, but some people have stomach issues when going too high.

[chasinSKURT]

I love R-Ala. It just has nothing to do with the rest of the formula, since PR is a testbooster.

LOL wut?

How about its synergy with agmatine?

F*cking 'reps'.

[Murderfox]

LOL wut?

How about its synergy with agmatine?

F*cking 'reps'.

Lulz







Late to the party OP.

It's up to you which you want to get. If you want something cheap just grab some bulk DAA, if you want an all-around formula for test/partitioning that has more than just DAA.. go for Prometheus. The agmatine gives some sick pumps as well, it's a staple ingredient for me. When i'm not on PR i'm always using either SNS Agmatine or Hemavol.

[Mr.Cooper69]

LOL wut?

How about its synergy with agmatine?

F*cking 'reps'.

I am well aware of how it works with agmatine (hence blueprint). I just said the product does a lot more than boosting test so I don't know if that's what I would buy if I was looking strictly for a testboost. I also said I would take PR over the other product he mentioned and 95% of products out there.

Lose the hostility.

[fibercarbon]

I am well aware of how it works with agmatine (hence blueprint). I just said the product does a lot more than boosting test so I don't know if that's what I would buy if I was looking strictly for a testboost. I also said I would take PR over the other product he mentioned and 95% of products out there.

Lose the hostility.

i will have to try this pr product

[TheDarkKnight27]

Prometheus RIsing looks sick, if i wanted a test booster i would use that.

[em-dubya]

For that price its not a bad product just for the Agmatine and DAA alone...the R-ALA and Forskolin are just "fluffer" ingreds

[Problem]

I tried pr and I must say I experienced nothing from it. The pumps weren't anything special than I used to get and my libido stayed the same.

I used Sns daa after pr and my libido increased...

Pr wasn't worth the money for me. Just posting my experience.

[em-dubya]

I tried pr and I must say I experienced nothing from it. The pumps weren't anything special than I used to get and my libido stayed the same.

I used Sns daa after pr and my libido increased...

Pr wasn't worth the money for me. Just posting my experience.

Perhaps they are using a lower quality DAA Just guessing though cause DAA is pretty cheap

[chasinSKURT]

I am well aware of how it works with agmatine (hence blueprint). I just said the product does a lot more than boosting test so I don't know if that's what I would buy if I was looking strictly for a testboost. I also said I would take PR over the other product he mentioned and 95% of products out there.

Lose the hostility.

ROFL. You don't have a clue, bro.

Here's the post I quoted you on:

It's underdosed. 50mg forskolin a day won't do anything significant.

O'rly? Where are you coming up with this stuff? 50mg's is equivalent to the dose studied in the Forslean clinical trial - where the broads lost some weight. Perhaps you have proof outside of forum bs that more is better? Either way, you're just blabbing on a forum.

You then commented:

I love R-Ala. It just has nothing to do with the rest of the formula, since PR is a testbooster.

Once again, O'rly?

I thought it was supposed to be some sort of hormonal optimizer? At least that's what the spam from other forums told me. In any event, I'd bet my life that you're completely clueless as to how R-ALA potentiates agmatine. "well aware"... no f*cking way. By all means though, please comment on polyamine shuffling, and how blueprint achieves this. I'll wait. LULZ!

Stick to pushing bulk powders from SNS.

Really, it's nothing personal. I happen to have absolutely nothing to do today, and noticed another forum bro/expert/rep shelling out advice in regards to subject matters foreign to him.

Time for a nap.

[chasinSKURT]

Perhasps they are using a lower quality DAA Just guessing though cause DAA is pretty cheap

No idea. All I know if that Joey is no longer associated with the company, and that because of that I'd be a bit more hesitant in buying their stuff.

It's funny how popular DAA has become. Not too long ago it wasn't available, period, unless you lived in Italy.

[Mr.Cooper69]

ROFL. You don't have a clue, bro.

Here's the post I quoted you on:



O'rly? Where are you coming up with this stuff? 50mg's is equivalent to the dose studied in the Forslean clinical trial - where the broads lost some weight. Perhaps you have proof outside of forum bs that more is better? Either way, you're just blabbing on a forum.

You then commented:



Once again, O'rly?

I thought it was supposed to be some sort of hormonal optimizer? At least that's what the spam from other forums told me. In any event, I'd bet my life that you're completely clueless as to how R-ALA potentiates agmatine. "well aware"... no f*cking way. By all means though, please comment on polyamine shuffling, and how blueprint achieves this. I'll wait. LULZ!

Stick to pushing bulk powders from SNS.

Really, it's nothing personal. I happen to have absolutely nothing to do today, and noticed another forum bro/expert/rep shelling out advice in regards to subject matters foreign to him.

Time for a nap.

Well, I've gathered one thing from your post. Rather than responding in a mature manner, it is clear you are a little hotheaded. But that's fine.

The forskolin comment was based on anecdotal experience yes, but I think you can agree that 100mg would have been much more favorable. There are also other forslean studies (double blind, placebo-controlled) showing it to be quite effective at higher doses.

As for belittling my knowledge, I will not even respond to that. Write out the question you want answered in a more respectful manner and I'll give the best response I can.

Thanks for the kind words though. I'll henceforth stop helping all people on these boards and just push SNS bulk powders. I appreciate the constantly italicized "bro's" as well. You obviously are oblivious to anything I have posted in the past if you think I'm another drone spouting out bs.

You may have respect on these boards, but in my eyes, you're an immature, ill-mannered poster. I have nothing against Prometheus Rising...for the last time, I think it looks great. This thread, thanks to you, is no longer about OPs question. It's about how condescendingly you can flaunt your knowledge in order to earn goodbro points and belittle a rep, who in your eyes "pushes bulk powders." Enjoy your nap.

[nanoROBOT]

Prometheus Rising is a sick formula. Forskolin is underdosed and R-Ala is kinda "out there," but agmatine and DAA are a great stack.

That's basically what I just said lol. It's just an odd combo of ingredients, but a damn solid product.

Stick to pushing bulk powders from SNS.

I don't think he was trying to convince me of buying the bulk powder... I know some reps are always trying to sell their products and it's annoying sometimes but Mr.Cooper69 and Murderfox were only trying to help and neither of them said: MY PRODUCT>THE OTHERS

Thanks everyone for the help I think I'll buy 1 PR and 1 SNS DAA Powder...

Week 1 DAA Powder (6,000mg - Loading phase)
Week 2 - 5 Prometheus Rising
Week 6 - 8 DAA Powder (3,000mg)

Is 8 weeks too much or it'll be ok?... also what else do I need (Inhibit-E, Erase, L-Dopa)?

[Mr.Cooper69]

I don't think he was trying to convince me of buying the bulk powder... I know some reps are always trying to sell their products and it's annoying sometimes but Mr.Cooper69 and Murderfox were only trying to help and neither of them said: MY PRODUCT>THE OTHERS

Thanks everyone for the help I think I'll buy 1 PR and 1 SNS DAA Powder...

Week 1 DAA Powder (6,000mg - Loading phase)
Week 2 - 5 Prometheus Rising
Week 6 - 8 DAA Powder (3,000mg)

Is 8 weeks too much or it'll be ok?... also what else do I need (Inhibit-E, Erase, L-Dopa)?

Correct, thank you for understanding. I would skip the loading phase and honestly not even get the DAA powder. Prometheus Rising, Inhibit-E at 1 cap/day, and NOW DOPA should be all you need.

[RebuildMe]

Perhaps they are using a lower quality DAA Just guessing though cause DAA is pretty cheap

I doubt it, even the best quality DAA powder is cheap as **** nowadays.

[PSbreaux]

Agamtine blocks your NMDA channel. this means it cancels DAA out, and makes it useless in this product. so your actually not getting any boost in testosterone, but like cooper said it is a good nutrient partitioner...

"Agmatine is an interesting compound- but it does block NMDA receptor activity, so it is a no-go with DAA products:
Neurosci Res. 2005 Aug;52(4):387-92.

Effect of agmatine on heteromeric N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor channels.
Askalany AR, Yamakura T, Petrenko AB, Kohno T, Sakimura K, Baba H.

Division of Anesthesiology, Niigata University Graduate School of Medical and Dental Sciences, Niigata 951-8510, Japan.

Abstract
Endogenous polyamines like spermine are known to have four distinct effects on recombinant N-methyl-d-aspartate (NMDA) receptor channels: voltage-dependent inhibition, glycine-dependent stimulation, glycine-independent stimulation and decreased affinity to the agonist (l-glutamate). These effects are highly dependent on the constituting epsilon subunits (epsilon1-epsilon4) of the recombinant NMDA receptor channels. Agmatine reportedly inhibits native NMDA receptor channels in cultured hippocampal neurons. In the present investigation, the effects of agmatine on the epsilon/zeta heteromeric NMDA receptor channels expressed in Xenopus laevis oocytes were examined using the two-electrode voltage clamp method. Agmatine inhibited the four epsilon/zeta (epsilon1/zeta1, epsilon2/zeta1, epsilon3/zeta1 and epsilon4/zeta1) channels with similar sensitivity (an IC50 value of about 300microM at -70mV). This effect was dependent on the membrane potential and was more pronounced at hyperpolarized membrane potentials (voltage-dependent inhibition). Agmatine did not exhibit other stimulatory (glycine-dependent and -independent effects) or inhibitory (decreased affinity to l-glutamate) effects. These properties are similar to the pharmacological profile of well-characterized NMDA receptor channel blockers like phencyclidine and ********. Thus, regarding the effects on the NMDA receptor channels, agmatine is not like other endogenous polyamines rather it acts as a channel blocker.


It does have some positive effects on GH and in some other areas- something to look into....."

[PSbreaux]

iv personally used two bottles of prometheus rising (MAN sent me 2 to try out)
i liked the increased food metabolism, gave me a lean hard look i the mornings. but got nothing as far as a boost in strength, or libido.