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    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    You're going to have me waiting forever aren't you? It's okay, we will be friends for a long time. <3

    I'll post pics at 200lbs lean too, deal? Only I hope to hit that around January 2012, before the world ends, I hope.
    It would seem so, lol. Sick at the moment so I've actually lost 2.5kg which sucks hard. Managed to still deadlift 140kg for 2-3 reps and benched 100kg for 1 rep (almost 2). Strength is fairly sapped at this time and I've not been in the gym for about 2-3 weeks. As soon as I'm well enough I'll be right back in there and hitting weight gainer shakes with the force of 300 angry spartans.

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    Originally Posted by N4J4R View Post
    It would seem so, lol. Sick at the moment so I've actually lost 2.5kg which sucks hard. Managed to still deadlift 140kg for 2-3 reps and benched 100kg for 1 rep (almost 2). Strength is fairly sapped at this time and I've not been in the gym for about 2-3 weeks. As soon as I'm well enough I'll be right back in there and hitting weight gainer shakes with the force of 300 angry spartans.

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    If the world ends in 2012 I'm going to rage lol. I'm supposed to finish uni around then. brb Could have not gone to uni and traveled the world.
    Omg, if the world ends..... at least I will have died on a bulk. How sad would it be to die cutting..
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    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    Omg, if the world ends..... at least I will have died on a bulk. How sad would it be to die cutting..
    This is a VERY good point. Imagine if you were on keto...





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    Can you bulk with a low carb or your only source of carb to be post workout (the protein shake)?

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    Can you bulk with a low carb or your only source of carb to be post workout (the protein shake)?
    I'm not a fan of low carbs during bulks OR cuts. When you have your carbs would essentially mean little in terms of body composition provided you hit your macros for that day and over an extended period of time. You can have your carbs post workout if you like and if you're on some sort of low carb diet you can probably have them all in one sitting I would imagine. As I said, I'm not a fan of low carb diets. They would drive me insane lol. Plus people tend to gain weight back (water weight) when they re-feed with carbs.

    I suppose it would be possible to bulk with a 'low carb' diet but it would be extremely difficult, and in some cases expensive, IMO. So many foods are carb rich so it's easy to consume them. They are not your enemy.

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    Originally Posted by Quo View Post
    Can you bulk with a low carb or your only source of carb to be post workout (the protein shake)?
    Yeah, of course. But why would you?
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    Originally Posted by Quo View Post
    Can you bulk with a low carb or your only source of carb to be post workout (the protein shake)?
    Your gonna find it hard to get a calorie surplus with just protein and fat. Carbs play a part in recovery aswell.

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    Originally Posted by AnthonyBish View Post
    Are wide grip pullups harder than close grip? Should I do wide grip or close grip for back development?
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    Originally Posted by AnthonyBish View Post
    Are wide grip pullups harder than close grip? Should I do wide grip or close grip for back development?
    Originally Posted by riquelminho View Post
    I'm too O want to know
    You want more information on the above quote?

    IMO, both wide and narrow/close grip pullups are great and can be incorporated into a training routine. In either case, full ROM (Range Of Motion) should be used with no cheating during the movement. Focusing on slow negatives (the lowering part of the movement) can help with increasing strength with the movement. They are a fantastic compound movement and are my favorite exercise to target lats (apart from bent over rows). They also work upper and middle back respectively. The difficulty level of wide vs close I think would depend on the individual, although I personally find and have heard from many others, that wider grip pullups and chin ups are harder than the close grip variant.
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    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    You're going to have me waiting forever aren't you? It's okay, we will be friends for a long time. <3

    I'll post pics at 200lbs lean too, deal? Only I hope to hit that around January 2012, before the world ends, I hope.
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    I dont know where to ask, but i found it kidna strange

    Dense body hair covers my hams, but my quads are almsot bare compared to hams, there is like a "magic-line" that divides hairy-non hairy parts of my leg
    Any reasons why?

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    Originally Posted by WestSideTillIDi View Post
    I dont know where to ask, but i found it kidna strange

    Dense body hair covers my hams, but my quads are almsot bare compared to hams, there is like a "magic-line" that divides hairy-non hairy parts of my leg
    Any reasons why?
    I dont exactly know why dude. but I have the same thing. My legs are hairy but once you hit my lower leg, the hair is gone, and my skin is mad smooth. Its prbably just the way your body works. I know kids who have hair covering their legs but no hair on their arms.
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    Originally Posted by steve030 View Post
    I have been trying to lose weight through healthy diet and exercsing which has been going great (lost 4kgs) but I have recently started taking a supplement (Myofusion for muscle building) will i still be losing weight like around the abs and such?

    As it seems, i havent changed diet and i am putting on a bit of weight, but am not sure if thats muscle or not.... so essentially, does supplements make you fat? or is that muscle and im still losing fats?
    If you bulking you always gain some fat, but if you take the right supps then the weight youll gain will be predominanlty lean muscle. Myofusion should have you gaining a lot of weight if any.
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    Originally Posted by WestSideTillIDi View Post
    I dont know where to ask, but i found it kidna strange

    Dense body hair covers my hams, but my quads are almsot bare compared to hams, there is like a "magic-line" that divides hairy-non hairy parts of my leg
    Any reasons why?
    The only reason I can think of that would probably fit the bill would be genetics. Genetics obviously play a major, if not the key roll in how we look, among other things.
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    The only reason I can think of that would probably fit the bill would be genetics. Genetics obviously play a major, if not the key roll in how we look, among other things.
    Genetics is always the answer.
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    Originally Posted by Alihozani View Post
    If you bulking you always gain some fat, but if you take the right supps then the weight youll gain will be predominanlty lean muscle. Myofusion should have you gaining a lot of weight if any.
    Incorrect...to an extent. People have different interpretations of what are the 'right supps'. For example, I think pre-workouts are unnecessary and that weight gainers are a waste of money. Another individual may think the exact opposite of me and believe that both of these products are fantastic, thus making them staples. Furthermore, you should note that they are SUPPLEMENTS. They are ONLY there to SUPPLEMENT what may be missing in a diet. The more solid a diet is, the less reliance there will be need to be on supplements (within reason). Gaining muscle, loosing fat and maintaining weight all come down to 3 things: Diet, Training and Rest. Without these three, progress will be hindered. You can have the BEST supplements on the planet, but if your diet, training and rest suck hard, your gains will be hindered.

    I find people are always looking too hard for that magic bullet to add to their arsenal of supps. Focus on the basics of proper nutrition, training and rest and gains will come. Supplements are just that, SUPPLEMENTS. This should NEVER be forgotten and they should be used sparingly and for their intended use.
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    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    I used to do a 6 day split.

    Mon-Chest/bis
    Tue-Back/tri
    Wed-Legs
    Thur-Chest
    Fri- Shoulders
    Sat- Arms
    Sun-Rest

    I did make gains, however I have liked my last two 3 and 4 day splits (more frequency) better.

    Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Tris
    Day 2: Back/Bis/Traps
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: Rest (abs cardio)

    Now I'm doing:

    Day 1: Shoulders/Legs
    Day 2: Chest/Back
    Day 3: Arms
    Day 4: Rest



    Im sure your just trying something new with your new workout routine. But I would not recommend doing shoulders the day before chest. Shoulders are easy to injure and without proper time to heal can really set you back in your gains. I also would not recommend doing chest and back together in the same day. chest and back are two big muscle groups I dont think you can possibly properly work them both in the same workout unless it was a three hour session. It also is using your tris and bis the day before your arm workout which will hurt your gains for your workout the next day. Not trying to be mean just thought maybe that info could be useful to you. If your needing any info on bulking feel free to ask im pretty good on that.

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    I've been working out for a little over a month and I seem to be getting stronger, but I'm not putting on any weight. Any suggestions?

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    I've been working out for a little over a month and I seem to be getting stronger, but I'm not putting on any weight. Any suggestions?
    The simplest answer would be to eat more. There may be other factors at play as well which could be responsible for hindering your gains like improper or poor training as well as inadequate rest. You must nail proper diet, training and rest in order to make gains. If you need help working out how many calories you need, see this thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981

    If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to post back ITT asap.

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    Originally Posted by N4J4R View Post
    The only reason I can think of that would probably fit the bill would be genetics. Genetics obviously play a major, if not the key role in how we look, among other things.
    Yes, this is quite true. Your hair's sensitivity to androgens is mostly a genetic trait, so it cannot be controlled to a significant degree with diet / exercise / whatever. However, while excessive body hair isn't a sign of high testosterone (mostly restricted to Mediterraneans ), having little to no quad hair is quite alarming. If you can tell us your weight, eating habits (past and present), etc., I might be able to narrow down your problem to genetics vs. low testosterone.

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    Genetics is always the answer.
    too bad most people don't understand genetics and blame all of their shortcomings on genetics. Being fat isn't genetic. Most diseases, except a few rare ones, have a very mild genetic component. There's no such thing as inherited intelligence -- you're either knowledgeable or you're not. Heck, you can even train yourself to become faster at grasping new information, or you can train yourself to get a higher and higher IQ score!

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    Originally Posted by TERMplus View Post
    Yes, this is quite true. Your hair's sensitivity to androgens is mostly a genetic trait, so it cannot be controlled to a significant degree with diet / exercise / whatever. However, while excessive body hair isn't a sign of high testosterone (mostly restricted to Mediterraneans ), having little to no quad hair is quite alarming. If you can tell us your weight, eating habits (past and present), etc., I might be able to narrow down your problem to genetics vs. low testosterone.



    too bad most people don't understand genetics and blame all of their shortcomings on genetics. Being fat isn't genetic. Most diseases, except a few rare ones, have a very mild genetic component. There's no such thing as inherited intelligence -- you're either knowledgeable or you're not. Heck, you can even train yourself to become faster at grasping new information, or you can train yourself to get a higher and higher IQ score!

    /endrantandoff-topicpost
    I'm Mediterranean lol

    I agree with your second part as well. SO many people I hear complaining always say "oh I have bad genetics!". It's usually these same people who give up training after the 2nd week because 'they haven't seen any progress'...100% srs. Not sure if you've seen/heard this before.

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    [Genetic determinants of obesity. Current issues].
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    Hebebrand J, Bammann K, Hinney A.
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    Klinik für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie des Kindes- und Jugendalters, LVR Klinikum, Universität Duisburg-Essen, Virchowstr. 174, 45147, Essen, Deutschland. Johannes.Hebebrand@uni-due.de
    Abstract
    A small number of confirmed major genes for human obesity has been identified by molecular genetic studies; mutations of these have a strong influence on the development of excessive body weight. However, the underlying mutations are rare and do not explain the current obesity epidemic. The genetic predisposition to common obesity most likely has a polygenic basis, and each single gene variant has only a small influence on body weight. The introduction of genome-wide association scans (GWAS) offers new opportunities for the study of complex diseases. The receptor variant with the amino acid isoleucin (wildtype: valine) at position 103 of the melanocortin-4 receptor (MC4R) represents the first confirmed polygenic variant with an influence on body mass index; additional polymorphisms located 188 kb at the 3' end of the MC4R have also been shown to have an effect on body weight. Variants in the first intron of the "fat mass and obesity associated" gene (FTO) confer the most pronounced polygenic effect on obesity (+0.4 kg/m(2) per allele); these variants were originally detected in 2007 in GWAS pertaining to type 2 diabetes mellitus. Recently, additional SNPs with a polygenic effect on obesity have been identified in three large GWAS. By December 2009, 17 solidly confirmed polygenes for body weight regulation have been reported.

    PMID: 20631977 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20631977

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    advice......

    Hello all and thanks for your time. Hopefully im in the right bit but if not my bad dont slate me please
    Its my first time back at the gym in a year and this time i want to train right.
    Basically im looking for any advice/help on what im doing right or wrong and anything else you suggest ill take on board.
    Firstly my diet is 2 meal replacements a day, one for breakfast and one at lunch. Inbetween that ill have a snack such as a banana. Later on for tea i will try to have a high protein meal. Then before bed i will have a whey protein shake containing roughly 60g of protein.
    Secondly my training is 4 days a week usually tuesday to friday. I will take a preworkout called rampage and whey protein straight after the session. The first 2 days ill do a power workout basically pushing myself which consists of legs, biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders on day one and the rest on day 2 so im trying to split it. The second 2 days more toning as im usually knackered
    Now about myself am 6 ft 3 n roughly 131kg, my body itself isnt in bad shape i just need to get rid of the dreaded love handles
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    Originally Posted by WestSideTillIDi View Post
    I dont know where to ask, but i found it kidna strange

    Dense body hair covers my hams, but my quads are almsot bare compared to hams, there is like a "magic-line" that divides hairy-non hairy parts of my leg
    Any reasons why?
    I have this same EXACT composition, as do two of my friends. I've noticed this to be a common genetic pattern on men from the middle east/mediterranean. Why, I couldn't say.

    Thanks for the tips, N4J4R, really appreciate it man! But I've still got a bunch of questions =)

    1) Should I utilize protein shakes everday? I noticed some people on this website take in as much as 3 shakes a day! I limit myself to one on a workout day only, and use food the rest of the week. Is more shakes needed?

    2) Does what time you going to bed play a major role? Like say I sleep at 2 AM, and wake up at 11 Am, is that as good as say, going to bed at 10 PM, and waking up at 7 AM?

    3) I put on almost 15 lbs in 6 weeks, roughly. Is that normal? lol.

    4) How longs it take to actually start noticing muscle size and all that?

    5)What kind of supplements should I throw in? I rely mainly on food and a bit of whey protein (Optimum Nutrition). Would supps help at this point? I'm about 5-6 weeks into bulking. Creatine? Opti men? weight gainers?

    Thanks for the tips guys, very helpful bunch here =)

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    Originally Posted by Ironbound27 View Post
    I have this same EXACT composition, as do two of my friends. I've noticed this to be a common genetic pattern on men from the middle east/mediterranean. Why, I couldn't say.

    Thanks for the tips, N4J4R, really appreciate it man! But I've still got a bunch of questions =)

    1) Should I utilize protein shakes everday? I noticed some people on this website take in as much as 3 shakes a day! I limit myself to one on a workout day only, and use food the rest of the week. Is more shakes needed?

    2) Does what time you going to bed play a major role? Like say I sleep at 2 AM, and wake up at 11 Am, is that as good as say, going to bed at 10 PM, and waking up at 7 AM?

    3) I put on almost 15 lbs in 6 weeks, roughly. Is that normal? lol.

    4) How longs it take to actually start noticing muscle size and all that?

    5)What kind of supplements should I throw in? I rely mainly on food and a bit of whey protein (Optimum Nutrition). Would supps help at this point? I'm about 5-6 weeks into bulking. Creatine? Opti men? weight gainers?

    Thanks for the tips guys, very helpful bunch here =)
    1. We only use shakes to help meet our macros. You dont neccessarily need 3 a day. And imo 3 a day is overkill.

    2. Your just on a different sleep schedule. As long as you get the same number of hours of sleep, the time you sleep is irrelevant.

    3. Noob gains coupled with you being 6'4. You wont gain like that for forever.

    4. A bit different for everyone. Maybe a few months.

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    Originally Posted by wygdwicfy View Post
    1. We only use shakes to help meet our macros. You dont neccessarily need 3 a day. And imo 3 a day is overkill.

    2. Your just on a different sleep schedule. As long as you get the same number of hours of sleep, the time you sleep is irrelevant.

    3. Noob gains coupled with you being 6'4. You wont gain like that for forever.

    4. A bit different for everyone. Maybe a few months.

    5. Creatine, Whey and a Multi. Nothing else.

    That set a lot of things straight in my mind, thanks a bunch buddy!

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    Originally Posted by Ironbound27 View Post
    That set a lot of things straight in my mind, thanks a bunch buddy!
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    I bench more weight than I can squat. Will this problem fix itself over time or is there something I should focus on specifically?

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    Originally Posted by Jeffbelittle View Post
    I bench more weight than I can squat. Will this problem fix itself over time or is there something I should focus on specifically?
    How is your form on both lifts?

    How frequently do you perform each lift?

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    Originally Posted by wygdwicfy View Post
    How is your form on both lifts?

    How frequently do you perform each lift?

    What are the numbers?

    My form just got better today on squats. I had to take off 40 pounds off my squat I was doing earlier because I noticed they were high squats. But I reached parallel with 105 squats.

    My form's always been pretty good with bench press. I don't have much mind-muscle connection with that lift, so I don't feel it too much in my pecs. I bench 115.

    I do 2 warm up sets, 2 working sets of 8. I do full body, so both lifts, every other day.

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    Originally Posted by Jeffbelittle View Post
    My form just got better today on squats. I had to take off 40 pounds off my squat I was doing earlier because I noticed they were high squats. But I reached parallel with 105 squats.

    My form's always been pretty good with bench press. I don't have much mind-muscle connection with that lift, so I don't feel it too much in my pecs. I bench 115.

    I do 2 warm up sets, 2 working sets of 8. I do full body, so both lifts, every other day.
    Both every other day? Sounds like a bit much to me.

    Yeah, both are pretty low, and your if you were doing squats with incorrect form, thats a setback. You can expect them to eventually fall in to place by themselves.
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