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    Question White pasta after workout? yes or no?

    Hello im on my way to reducing body fat.. ive lost fat already in the last 3 weeks.. but unfortunetaly im on a very tight budget now, and i have to have at least 1 meal which includes pasta...

    I was hoping that my post workout meal could include white pasta + Whey Protein Shake ON.

    What do you think? will i still lose fat or not?
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    Originally Posted by sixpackman View Post
    What do you think? will i still lose fat or not?
    Yes. It's fine.
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    Oh look, you posted the exact same thread in the nutrition forum. Expecting a different answer?
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    Pasta is not your enemy. Excess calories are.
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    Pasta after a workout is THE BEST time to eat it. The carbs will go into your hungry muscles quickly, and your insulin will not spike as hard as it would otherwise.

    Here are a few tips to optimize it:

    1) Don't smother the pasta in a lot of fat (alfredo sauce, excessive butter, cheese, etc.). Too much fat will interfere with the carb digestion and cause more of it to be converted to fat rather than stored in your muscles.

    2) Don't eat Olive Garden-sized portions.

    3) Don't eat any pasta (or any other simple/processed carbs) at least 4 hours before bed.
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    Good advice above. Excess calories and macros are king here, so keep the portions small. But post-workout is definitely the best time to eat pasta (or any high-carb meal).
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    Pasta after a workout is THE BEST time to eat it. The carbs will go into your hungry muscles quickly, and your insulin will not spike as hard as it would otherwise.

    Here are a few tips to optimize it:

    1) Don't smother the pasta in a lot of fat (alfredo sauce, excessive butter, cheese, etc.). Too much fat will interfere with the carb digestion and cause more of it to be converted to fat rather than stored in your muscles.

    2) Don't eat Olive Garden-sized portions.

    3) Don't eat any pasta (or any other simple/processed carbs) at least 4 hours before bed.
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    Pasta after a workout is THE BEST time to eat it. The carbs will go into your hungry muscles quickly, and your insulin will not spike as hard as it would otherwise.

    Here are a few tips to optimize it:

    1) Don't smother the pasta in a lot of fat (alfredo sauce, excessive butter, cheese, etc.). Too much fat will interfere with the carb digestion and cause more of it to be converted to fat rather than stored in your muscles.

    2) Don't eat Olive Garden-sized portions.

    3) Don't eat any pasta (or any other simple/processed carbs) at least 4 hours before bed.
    Nope. You must be new here Eating before bed is fine as long as it fits your macros.

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    Originally Posted by Ninetysix View Post
    Nope. You must be new here Eating before bed is fine as long as it fits your macros.

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    insulin has no impact on body composition, eat your carbs at any time of day its irrelevant.
    Just dont eat too many calories, then you wont get fat
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    Originally Posted by Ninetysix View Post
    Nope. You must be new here Eating before bed is fine as long as it fits your macros.
    That's a decent article, but it does not negate the value of carbohydrate restriction for fat loss. It may be true that eating carbs before bed is not a specific issue, per se, however, that misses the point.

    In regard to the OP's question, eating carbohydrates while trying to lose weight is best done right after a workout to ensure that they will be utilized in the muscle instead of converted to fat. It is also true that reducing carbohydrates overall improves the body's mechanism for burning fat.

    Originally Posted by frejisaur View Post
    insulin has no impact on body composition, eat your carbs at any time of day its irrelevant.
    Just dont eat too many calories, then you wont get fat
    Not entirely true.
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    no problem with white pasta dude...
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    That's a decent article, but it does not negate the value of carbohydrate restriction for fat loss. It may be true that eating carbs before bed is not a specific issue, per se, however, that misses the point.

    In regard to the OP's question, eating carbohydrates while trying to lose weight is best done right after a workout to ensure that they will be utilized in the muscle instead of converted to fat. It is also true that reducing carbohydrates overall improves the body's mechanism for burning fat.



    Not entirely true.
    Wrong. Carbs are only converted to fat when you have a caloric surplus just as protein and dietary fat are stored as fat.
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    That's a decent article, but it does not negate the value of carbohydrate restriction for fat loss. It may be true that eating carbs before bed is not a specific issue, per se, however, that misses the point.

    In regard to the OP's question, eating carbohydrates while trying to lose weight is best done right after a workout to ensure that they will be utilized in the muscle instead of converted to fat. It is also true that reducing carbohydrates overall improves the body's mechanism for burning fat.



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    Originally Posted by CaitlinCaitlyn View Post
    no problem with white pasta dude...
    Depends on the context and the metabolic state of the person. The OP wants to lose weight, and keeping your carb stores below the fill line helps with that.

    Originally Posted by moneyrich View Post
    Wrong. Carbs are only converted to fat when you have a caloric surplus just as protein and dietary fat are stored as fat.
    Once again, context. The OP is trying to lose weight. Your body can only store about 15g/kg of bodyweight, and after that the body begins making new fat.

    nature.com/oby/journal/v11/n9/full/oby2003150a.html
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3165600

    Eating too many carbs is a problem with many people today, especially ones who have become overweight. Thus, you restrict your carbohydrate intake and exercise in order to keep your carbs below the approximately 300g limit of carbohydrate storage.

    In the end, personal experimentation is key. People are different. If carbohydrate restriction doesn't matter for you, then congrats on your metabolism.
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    should look into barilla plus multigrain pasta. tastes like regular pasta.



    oh and @ the white pasta comment.

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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    Depends on the context and the metabolic state of the person. The OP wants to lose weight, and keeping your carb stores below the fill line helps with that.



    Once again, context. The OP is trying to lose weight. Your body can only store about 15g/kg of bodyweight, and after that the body begins making new fat.

    nature.com/oby/journal/v11/n9/full/oby2003150a.html
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3165600

    Eating too many carbs is a problem with many people today, especially ones who have become overweight. Thus, you restrict your carbohydrate intake and exercise in order to keep your carbs below the approximately 300g limit of carbohydrate storage.

    In the end, personal experimentation is key. People are different. If carbohydrate restriction doesn't matter for you, then congrats on your metabolism.
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    Depends on the context and the metabolic state of the person. The OP wants to lose weight, and keeping your carb stores below the fill line helps with that.



    Once again, context. The OP is trying to lose weight. Your body can only store about 15g/kg of bodyweight, and after that the body begins making new fat.

    nature.com/oby/journal/v11/n9/full/oby2003150a.html
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3165600

    Eating too many carbs is a problem with many people today, especially ones who have become overweight. Thus, you restrict your carbohydrate intake and exercise in order to keep your carbs below the approximately 300g limit of carbohydrate storage.

    In the end, personal experimentation is key. People are different. If carbohydrate restriction doesn't matter for you, then congrats on your metabolism.
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    white rice, white potatoes, white pasta, white women, all good any time of the day. Though for someone REALLY pushing themselves, like an athlete who is competing in a sport, there is PROBABLY a little more importance of getting food after training and thats for another discussion, but for losing weight purposes it just doesnt matter.
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    Depends on the context and the metabolic state of the person. The OP wants to lose weight, and keeping your carb stores below the fill line helps with that.



    Once again, context. The OP is trying to lose weight. Your body can only store about 15g/kg of bodyweight, and after that the body begins making new fat.

    nature.com/oby/journal/v11/n9/full/oby2003150a.html
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3165600

    Eating too many carbs is a problem with many people today, especially ones who have become overweight. Thus, you restrict your carbohydrate intake and exercise in order to keep your carbs below the approximately 300g limit of carbohydrate storage.

    In the end, personal experimentation is key. People are different. If carbohydrate restriction doesn't matter for you, then congrats on your metabolism.
    Your second link is titled "Glycogen storage capacity and de novo lipogenesis during massive carbohydrate overfeeding in man." and contains the following:

    (Glycogen stores) were repleted during 7 d carbohydrate overfeeding (11% protein, 3% fat, and 86% carbohydrate) providing 15.25 +/- 1.10 MJ (3642 +/- 263 kcal) on the first day, increasing progressively to 20.64 +/- 1.30 MJ (4930 +/- 311 kcal) on the last day of overfeeding.

    That study doesnt apply to anything being discussed, right from the title which contains "massive carb overfeeding." And look at the amount of calories they are being given for 7 straight days. If I am reading that right, its over 4000 in carbs alone! Thats not what we are talking about, thats a scientific experiment that has no bearing on this discussion. Its like the when people use studies on professional athletes to prove a point. It doesnt apply. The insulin spike of a few carbs after a workout is pointless in you and I, and most everyone else.
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    OP: Challenging the conventional wisdom can often cause strong responses in people, so I apologize if this thread has become confusing with all the opinions being thrown around. I encourage you to do your own research instead of listening to me or anyone else in this thread.

    A quick search on the web will bring up excellent work from people who are far more knowledgeable than anyone here. Some suggestions:
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    OP: Challenging the conventional wisdom can often cause strong responses in people, so I apologize if this thread has become confusing with all the opinions being thrown around. I encourage you to do your own research instead of listening to me or anyone else in this thread.

    A quick search on the web will bring up excellent work from people who are far more knowledgeable than anyone here. Some suggestions:
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    • Dr. Michael Eades, MD - Proteinpower.com/drmike/
    • Mark Sisson - MarksDailyApple.com
    • Gary Taubes - GaryTaubes.com
    • Rob Wolf - RobWolf.com
    • Dr. Kurt Harris, MD - Archevore.com
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    OP: Challenging the conventional wisdom can often cause strong responses in people, so I apologize if this thread has become confusing with all the opinions being thrown around. I encourage you to do your own research instead of listening to me or anyone else in this thread.

    A quick search on the web will bring up excellent work from people who are far more knowledgeable than anyone here. Some suggestions:
    • Lyle McDonald - Bodyrecomposition.com
    • Dr. Michael Eades, MD - Proteinpower.com/drmike/
    • Mark Sisson - MarksDailyApple.com
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    white rice, white potatoes, white pasta, white women, all good any time of the day. Though for someone REALLY pushing themselves, like an athlete who is competing in a sport, there is PROBABLY a little more importance of getting food after training and thats for another discussion, but for losing weight purposes it just doesnt matter.
    haha what? So there is no point in evening fibrous starches such as oatmeal, yams, brown rice, whole grains etc? I find it hard to believe that I can get away with eating potatoes and white pasta/white rice and not be as fit as I want to be.
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    "Once again, context. The OP is trying to lose weight. Your body can only store about 15g/kg of bodyweight, and after that the body begins making new fat."

    Welcome to the forum my friend but that cant be correct. That would be about 75 grams for me. I eat 230 grams of carbs daily and am losing fat very well and i most certainly go over that after my workouts coupled with a good cardio burn.
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    Originally Posted by newcommitment View Post
    Depends on the context and the metabolic state of the person. The OP wants to lose weight, and keeping your carb stores below the fill line helps with that.



    Once again, context. The OP is trying to lose weight. Your body can only store about 15g/kg of bodyweight, and after that the body begins making new fat.

    nature.com/oby/journal/v11/n9/full/oby2003150a.html
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3165600

    Eating too many carbs is a problem with many people today, especially ones who have become overweight. Thus, you restrict your carbohydrate intake and exercise in order to keep your carbs below the approximately 300g limit of carbohydrate storage.

    In the end, personal experimentation is key. People are different. If carbohydrate restriction doesn't matter for you, then congrats on your metabolism.
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    Originally Posted by stingray72 View Post
    "Once again, context. The OP is trying to lose weight. Your body can only store about 15g/kg of bodyweight, and after that the body begins making new fat."

    Welcome to the forum my friend but that cant be correct. That would be about 75 grams for me. I eat 230 grams of carbs daily and am losing fat very well and i most certainly go over that after my workouts coupled with a good cardio burn.
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    Originally Posted by sixpackman View Post
    Hello im on my way to reducing body fat.. ive lost fat already in the last 3 weeks.. but unfortunetaly im on a very tight budget now, and i have to have at least 1 meal which includes pasta...

    I was hoping that my post workout meal could include white pasta + Whey Protein Shake ON.

    What do you think? will i still lose fat or not?
    Not sure.

    Are you eating it with a Bacon Explosion and covering it all in Velveeta cheese?

    I've been losing 2-3# a week and have pasta on occasion. I weigh it, and figure it in to fit my macro's. This method works good for me.

    Just remember white pasta is good, it's the black pasta that drives down the value of neighboring food (sarc)
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