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    Out Train A Bad Diet - AKA You Bet Your Ass I Want Dessert

    OK, this is my "experiment" to see if I can out-train a bad diet.

    CURRENT STATS
    5'10", 173lbs, 30.75" waist, ~9-10%BF

    RULES
    Pretty simple. If I am hungry I will eat. Whatever I want. I will still try to get in at least 100g of protein a day, hopefully more.
    I will drink at least 1 gallon of water a day.

    SUPPLEMENTS
    Caffeine - 200mg once or twice a day. Mostly for energy and partially for diuretic purposes.

    TRAINING
    Six days a week, first thing in the morning, grueling. Combination of heavy compound movements and hard cardio.

    GOAL
    To stay the same BF% without dieting.

    WHY DO THIS?
    Because I love food and dieting sucks.
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    Day 1

    TRAINING
    No gym today, decided to start this on a whim while sitting at work daydreaming about food. Workouts start tomorrow.

    FOOD INTAKE
    In-N-Out Double Double - Plain (Meat, Cheese, Bun only)
    In-N-Out Cheeseburger - Plain
    4 Red Vines
    1 Cookie with Pink Frosting, not sure what it is called
    2 bowls of Fiber One Cereal with Whole Milk
    1 Little Applesauce container
    Grilled up some Chicken that I marinated overnight
    2 Chocolate Donuts
    Chocolate Milk
    About 20 Hershey Hugs

    Approximate Calories: 3300
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    There was a college football player who managed to do this a while back. He'd do extra sessions and just eat like crap all the time. Pizzas and burgers and stuff. He was shredded.
    Fat Loss
    11/09-3/11 415->364
    3/11 - 5/11 - 364->348
    5/11 - 6/11 - still 348
    6/3/11 - 9/3/11 - 348 ->328
    9/1/11 - 12/31/11 - 328-> ?
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    Originally Posted by reagansquad View Post
    There was a college football player who managed to do this a while back. He'd do extra sessions and just eat like crap all the time. Pizzas and burgers and stuff. He was shredded.
    I know athletes out-train crappy diets all the time. I remember seeing something on ESPN years back. They were following an upcoming draft pick in the NBA or NFL, I don't remember. Anyways, they show him "grocery" shopping. Dude was buying Fruity Pebbles, Twinkies, etc. Just total junk food. So ya, it can be done. I don't plan on being a total gluten though, just want to eat when I want and what I want. Doesn't seem like asking for too much.
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    Sounds interesting... subbed in
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    I'll save you the time. You can kind of out train a bad diet. It's all calories in versus calories out. This makes me think of the time when I was 17 and dropped from 180 down to 140 all while eating 1 big meal of whatever I wanted a day and on weekends I'd have 1 pretty ridiculous meal that was usually high in fat, my favorite thing at the time was eating 2 B.K. whoppers with cheese and heavy mayo. That cut actually went pretty decent for me but I was pretty active and lifting a decent amount.
    "There's a lot of 5'11 200-225 lbs guys with 10-12% body fat on the Internet. In reality, their "10-12%" body fat is more like 15% body fat or more. Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting. Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think. Talk to me again when you get in contest shape."
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    Originally Posted by spencyr View Post
    Sounds interesting... subbed in
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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    I'll save you the time. You can kind of out train a bad diet. It's all calories in versus calories out. This makes me think of the time when I was 17 and dropped from 180 down to 140 all while eating 1 big meal of whatever I wanted a day and on weekends I'd have 1 pretty ridiculous meal that was usually high in fat, my favorite thing at the time was eating 2 B.K. whoppers with cheese and heavy mayo. That cut actually went pretty decent for me but I was pretty active and lifting a decent amount.
    Ya, I understand the calories in/calories out dealio. I just cut from 190 to 173 using that method. Works great as long as you don't mind hating life and being hungry. I know for a 100% fact you can out-train a diet. The question is can I out-train my bad diet?
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    Originally Posted by XPLifter View Post
    Ya, I understand the calories in/calories out dealio. I just cut from 190 to 173 using that method. Works great as long as you don't mind hating life and being hungry. I know for a 100% fact you can out-train a diet. The question is can I out-train my bad diet?
    Yes, you can. Of course the term "diet" is subjective. Also, some people consider a bad diet a bad diet for different reasons.
    "There's a lot of 5'11 200-225 lbs guys with 10-12% body fat on the Internet. In reality, their "10-12%" body fat is more like 15% body fat or more. Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting. Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think. Talk to me again when you get in contest shape."
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    Day 2

    TRAINING
    AM - Max Squats

    FOOD INTAKE
    Chocolate Milk (300 cals)
    2 Chocolate Donuts (340 cals)
    Jersey Mike's Regular #7 (550 cals)
    Bag of Harvest Cheddar Sun Chips (210 cals)
    20oz Bottle of Pepsi (250 cals)
    4 Cheese Breads (1500??? cals)
    Protein Shake (350 cals)
    25 or so Hershey Hugs (500 cals)

    Approximate Calories: 4000
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    Originally Posted by XPLifter View Post
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    FOOD INTAKE
    Chocolate Milk
    2 Chocolate Donuts
    Hey will you do something for me today? Go get a burger from Burger king, but get the french fries from McDonald's... That's obese. I've always wanted to do it but never had the fat courage.
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    3/11 - 5/11 - 364->348
    5/11 - 6/11 - still 348
    6/3/11 - 9/3/11 - 348 ->328
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    Originally Posted by reagansquad View Post
    Hey will you do something for me today? Go get a burger from Burger king, but get the french fries from McDonald's... That's obese. I've always wanted to do it but never had the fat courage.
    Haha, I love McDonald's fries but I hate both theirs and BK's burgers, sorry.
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    Originally Posted by reagansquad View Post
    Hey will you do something for me today? Go get a burger from Burger king, but get the french fries from McDonald's... That's obese. I've always wanted to do it but never had the fat courage.
    LOL. You're supposed to get Mcdonald's burgers and Burger King fries(they taste more like potatoes IMO). I did that about 2 weeks ago.


    Originally Posted by XPLifter View Post
    Haha, I love McDonald's fries but I hate both theirs and BK's burgers, sorry.
    I'm pretty sure Burger King isn't even serving meat anymore, sure it's flame broiled but wtf is it? I'd much rather eat Boca burgers, way better IMO. I actually like Mcdonald's burgers and hit up those Mcdoubles for some decent protein on the cheap.
    "There's a lot of 5'11 200-225 lbs guys with 10-12% body fat on the Internet. In reality, their "10-12%" body fat is more like 15% body fat or more. Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting. Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think. Talk to me again when you get in contest shape."
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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    LOL. You're supposed to get Mcdonald's burgers and Burger King fries(they taste more like potatoes IMO). I did that about 2 weeks ago.




    I'm pretty sure Burger King isn't even serving meat anymore, sure it's flame broiled but wtf is it? I'd much rather eat Boca burgers, way better IMO. I actually like Mcdonald's burgers and hit up those Mcdoubles for some decent protein on the cheap.
    I don't think BK or McD's serves real meat.
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    Originally Posted by XPLifter View Post
    I don't think BK or McD's serves real meat.
    I honestly don't even care if it's real meat or not as long as it tastes something like real meat and has protein.
    "There's a lot of 5'11 200-225 lbs guys with 10-12% body fat on the Internet. In reality, their "10-12%" body fat is more like 15% body fat or more. Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting. Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think. Talk to me again when you get in contest shape."
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    Day 3

    Interestingly I weighed in at 171 this morning. Not sure what has caused me to lose 2 lbs?!? Maybe my metabolism is kicking into high gear following the calorie restriction diet? No clue. Maybe it is just a temporary drop before a huge spike, haha.

    TRAINING
    AM - Couldn't sack up and get out of bed, will have to do all my training tonight. Ugh

    PM - Clean Pulls/Power Cleans

    FOOD INTAKE
    Chocolate Milk (200 cals)
    1 Chocolate Donut (170 cals)
    1 Bowl Fiber One Cereal with Whole Milk (310 cals)
    In-N-Out Double Double Plain (550 cals)
    In-N-Out Fries (400 cals)
    Chocolate Shake (590 cals)
    Turkey Sandwich (500 cals)
    Small Bag of Chips (150 cals)
    Chocolate Milk (200 cals)
    2 Chocolate Donuts (340 cals)

    Approximate Calories: 3410
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    Originally Posted by XPLifter View Post
    Interestingly I weighed in at 171 this morning. Not sure what has caused me to lose 2 lbs?!? Maybe my metabolism is kicking into high gear following the calorie restriction diet? No clue. Maybe it is just a temporary drop before a huge spike, haha.
    Water weight.
    "There's a lot of 5'11 200-225 lbs guys with 10-12% body fat on the Internet. In reality, their "10-12%" body fat is more like 15% body fat or more. Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting. Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think. Talk to me again when you get in contest shape."
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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    Water weight.
    Wouldn't I be retaining more water now that I have upped my cals?
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    Originally Posted by XPLifter View Post
    Wouldn't I be retaining more water now that I have upped my cals?
    Not exactly. It has to due with carb intake, glycogen, water intake and it goes on and on. There are a lot of things that can cause something like this. Fast shifts in weight though are from a bowel movement or losses in water weight.
    "There's a lot of 5'11 200-225 lbs guys with 10-12% body fat on the Internet. In reality, their "10-12%" body fat is more like 15% body fat or more. Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting. Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think. Talk to me again when you get in contest shape."
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    Day 4

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    FOOD INTAKE
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    Bacon Cheeseburger and BBQ Chips (1200 cals??)
    Licorice candy (840 cals)
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    Approximate Calories: 3500
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    . . . .

    Any updates? How's it coming along, mang?
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