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    Question Mr. Olympia 2018 predictions

    What are you guys' predictions this year?
    I think:
    1 Phil
    2 Ramy
    3 Curry
    4 Roelly
    5 Bonac
    6 Dexter
    7 De Asha
    8 Rhoden
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    1st Phil - He is going to blow away everyone this year, he is coming in smaller but already in crazy condition

    2nd - Bonac


    3rd - Dexter
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    Mike Mentzer
    Danny Padilla
    Tom Platz

    ...wait
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    Bonac might however place as high as 2nd I think but I really dislike his overall physique, he has the size, brings conditioning and roundness but his waist is so wide and shoulders so small, his lats don't flare (he has thickness in the back tho, lots of it..) but these flaws combined just make him look awful imo
    he looks like a tree trunk, it just doesn't flow so well on his compact structure as it does on the taller guys with wider shoulders
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    Originally Posted by Gymboii2400 View Post
    What are you guys' predictions this year?
    I think:
    1 Phil
    2 Ramy
    3 Curry
    4 Roelly
    5 Bonac
    6 Dexter
    7 De Asha
    8 Rhoden
    I'm just surprised all those guys are still alive.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    I'm just surprised all those guys are still alive.
    Sad thing is that “bodybuilding” is a passion of mine...and I’ve only heard of 3 of those guys, and Phil Heath is the only one I would recognize from a picture...and he’s, what, a 7 time Mr. Olympia winner?

    Time was I could go in ANY gym and mention the name of 90% of the Mr. O competitors, and everyone would know who I was talking about. It’s ironic that the top bodybuilders in the world have such a minor impact on the majority of people who bodybuild. They rarely have interesting life stories, interests outside the gym, nobody cares what they eat, how they train, where they live.... probably why so many people liked Kai Greene. He had some substance and character.

    But I’m rambling. All the above is MHO
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    Sad thing is that “bodybuilding” is a passion of mine...and I’ve only heard of 3 of those guys, and Phil Heath is the only one I would recognize from a picture...and he’s, what, a 7 time Mr. Olympia winner?

    Time was I could go in ANY gym and mention the name of 90% of the Mr. O competitors, and everyone would know who I was talking about. It’s ironic that the top bodybuilders in the world have such a minor impact on the majority of people who bodybuild. They rarely have interesting life stories, interests outside the gym, nobody cares what they eat, how they train, where they live.... probably why so many people liked Kai Greene. He had some substance and character.

    But I’m rambling. All the above is MHO
    I agree regarding how much more recognizable the names of the top guys were in the 70's, 80's, 90's, and early 2000's. I think it's more of a case that the physiques back then had much more uniqueness than now. Also the top guys' builds are so off the charts now, and with the distended stomachs, the average lifter can't identify with them
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    Mike Mentzer
    Danny Padilla
    Tom Platz

    ...wait
    Ah yes, I remember, but when did it all get so freaky?.
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    Originally Posted by gym62richard View Post
    Ah yes, I remember, but when did it all get so freaky?.
    Dorian Yates...seems like a great guy, down to earth, honest, and with a good personality...but he’s credited for “ruining” bodybuilding (although I’d blame the “fans”). More or less the turning point from aesthetics to mass monster at all cost.
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    ... ...Time was I could go in ANY gym and mention the name of 90% of the Mr. O competitors, and everyone would know who I was talking about... ...
    Sorry who is mr olympia? does he have a YouTube channel we should subscribe to?
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    Dorian Yates...seems like a great guy, down to earth, honest, and with a good personality...but he’s credited for “ruining” bodybuilding (although I’d blame the “fans”). More or less the turning point from aesthetics to mass monster at all cost.
    And he still claims he wasn't on the gear..
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    Originally Posted by shmobin View Post
    And he still claims he wasn't on the gear..
    I’ve seen a ton of videos of him talking about his use in the days.
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    I’ve seen a ton of videos of him talking about his use in the days.
    Huh. Must be trying to rewrite history then. He was on the JRE podcast about a year ago going on and on about trying it once as a young man but not doing it again because he didn't need to.

    Unless I'm completely mixing that show up with another one, which is entirely possible. Don't mind me, carry on.
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    Originally Posted by shmobin View Post
    And he still claims he wasn't on the gear..
    Yates is probably the most honest---and candid---retired IFBB Pro concerning his former usage. He openly talked about this in a few of his interviews with Joe Rogan on Rogan's podcasts.

    Yates also seems to be among the most level-headed competitors of his era as well.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Yates is probably the most honest---and candid---retired IFBB Pro concerning his former usage. He openly talked about this in a few of his interviews with Joe Rogan on Rogan's podcasts.

    Yates also seems to be among the most level-headed competitors of his era as well.
    I must be confusing the Yates discussions with the CT Fletcher ones.
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    Dorian Yates...seems like a great guy, down to earth, honest, and with a good personality...but he’s credited for “ruining” bodybuilding (although I’d blame the “fans”). More or less the turning point from aesthetics to mass monster at all cost.
    I think you're correct, that was the turning point. I've visited DY's gym in Birmingham UK on a couple of occasions, not to lift, but merely as an observer.

    He' certainly an advocate of the high intensity and very low reps, very much in the Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer mould, not really my thing, but his views were very interesting none the less.

    A personable and articulate guy, but whatever he did to achieve his goals, it certainly appeared to have taken a real toll on his body.
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    Mike Mentzer
    Danny Padilla
    Tom Platz

    ...wait
    LOL

    How about Lee Haney, Flex Wheeler, Dorian etc....
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    LOL

    How about Lee Haney, Flex Wheeler, Dorian etc....
    I thought it would be funny to mention all the guys who had a year they SHOULD have won. Flex could fit on that list.
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    Originally Posted by shmobin View Post
    And he still claims he wasn't on the gear..

    He never claimed that. Look up the interview he did with Joe Rogan, in fact he talks about what he used all the time now. He has to be the most honest ex-bobybuilder out there. He retired perfectly as well, hot wife, he is into Yoga now and smokes the ganja and does mushrooms like no tomorrow. He is living the life.
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    Originally Posted by shmobin View Post
    And he still claims he wasn't on the gear..
    Yates never denied he was on gear, you must be confusing him with someone else.
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    In all honesty we need a Bob Paris or a Frank Zane again. I know that have a classic division but most people are there to see the mass monsters.
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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    In all honesty we need a Bob Paris or a Frank Zane again. I know that have a classic division but most people are there to see the mass monsters.
    IMO, Paris was the most aesthetic Pro bodybuilder of all time.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    IMO, Paris was the most aesthetic Pro bodybuilder of all time.
    He’s pretty interesting as a person too. Ironically, if he was lifting today we would see a totally different build. The only reason he put on all that size was because bodybuilding was all there was when he was competing. If he was competing today, I’m sure we would see a much smaller Paris, competing in physique, not even classic...and he’d probably be the top of the heap...might even have stayed natural (since competition was a stepping stone for other aspirations, and you can get famous and rich being natural these days), since he never liked using gear.
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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    Ironically, if he was lifting today we would see a totally different build.
    Yes, if he wanted to be 'competitive' with his bodybuilding peers, and play the 'size' game that has, IMO, totally destroyed Pro bodybuilding.















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    Originally Posted by grubman View Post
    He’s pretty interesting as a person too. Ironically, if he was lifting today we would see a totally different build. The only reason he put on all that size was because bodybuilding was all there was when he was competing. If he was competing today, I’m sure we would see a much smaller Paris, competing in physique, not even classic...and he’d probably be the top of the heap...might even have stayed natural (since competition was a stepping stone for other aspirations, and you can get famous and rich being natural these days), since he never liked using gear.
    I just finished reading his book "Gorilla Suit" I recommend it. He looks very different now, thin but athletic looking, his calfs are still huge though.
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