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    For those that do not know me, name is Jon and I competed in my 1st Meet in April (IIRC?) and it was awesome.

    Needless to say, I set forth to compete in another and I'm aiming for the Bay State Open.

    I performed Sheiko up to my last meet and loved it...but it took a toll on my sleep, body and family life.
    So I have switched back to the 5/3/1 method and intend to continue with it up until the day of the meet.

    Last month was my 1st cycle back and because of my inconsistancies (business trip, bachelor party, nephew and cousin's birthday weekends), I opted to not perform my deload week and get back in there with my 2nd cycle.

    Current Training Maxes - For 2nd Cycle:
    Squat: 343
    Bench: 230 (yes, weak!)
    Deadlift: 388
    OHP: 130 (started light)

    Training Days:
    I initially intended on training 4x/week but re-considered and will be doing 3x/week. Ideally
    Sunday - off
    Monday - Squats
    Tuesday - Bench and OHP
    Wed - off/basketball
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    Friday - Deadlifts
    Sat - Arms/GPP

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    5-3-1 Week 1, Day 1: Squats



    Squats:
    5 wu
    225x5
    260x5
    295x5

    Deadlifts:
    195x3x10

    Leg Press:
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    Notes:

    • Squats were actually pretty tough! I guess that is what ~5 hours of sleep can do to affect 'em.
    • Deadlifts were exhausting!
    • Leg Press, meh
    • That's it due to me getting back to tend to my children

    • Question for some discussion:
      I have decided to perform some Deadlifts (like the BBB) after Squats and Squats after my Deadlift day...thoughts? Maybe a bit too much?
      The %'s on the "assistance" Squats & Deadlifts will be 50-60% of Training Max.



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    i like the idea of using the squat as an assistance lift so you can squat 2x a week and improve technique but not deadlift as an assistance especially BBB cause that would kill me lol
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    i like the idea of using the squat as an assistance lift so you can squat 2x a week and improve technique but not deadlift as an assistance especially BBB cause that would kill me lol
    That is what I was thinking...especially after today. Considering I did Squatting 2x/week with Sheiko and Deadlifts once, and was pretty successful, I think that wouldn't be too different and would work well....but was interested in some people's opinions.

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    How many of your logs do I have to sub to

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    I was kidding, I read the last few pages

    Great work in here, and good luck with this upcoming meet. Smitty is quite the sally, so I guess you don't have to prepare too much if you want to beat him...

    and lulz. You ever thought of competing in PL? Your strong as all hell IMO and I think you would do very well
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    Well at least mine is in the right section nooB
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    and lulz. You ever thought of competing in PL? Your strong as all hell IMO and I think you would do very well
    My flat bench numbers would suck due to the shoulder injury. If I could sub incline for flat, then I might just consider it
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    Originally Posted by NC_Tarheel View Post
    Old people are not very receptive to change


    You'll be the same one day young buck


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    My flat bench numbers would suck due to the shoulder injury. If I could sub incline for flat, then I might just consider it
    Well, you can squat & dead 450+ right? I'm sure you can/will do more than exceptional

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    5-3-1 Week 1, Day 2: Bench + OHP



    Bench:
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    150x5
    175x5
    200x5

    OHP:
    2 wu
    85x5
    100x5
    115x5

    Note: I performed Pull-ups / Chin-ups as a superset after each press

    DB Flat Bench [SuperSet] Chest Supported Rows:
    75x2x10 [] 80x2x12
    75x10 [] 90x11

    Face Pulls:
    30x20
    35x2x20







    Notes:

    • Bench was simply $. It's funny that you re-read something and it helps immediately, like keeping "tight" throughout the entire movement. I kept re-iterating in my head to keep tight and it made the 200 simply fly up easy.
    • I also practiced my pauses, and will continue to focus on it, but moreso on the 3 & 1 weeks.
    • DB Flat has increased, so time to increase the weights!
    • Pullups have gotten much better to

    • Question for some discussion:
      I have decided to perform some Deadlifts (like the BBB) after Squats and Squats after my Deadlift day...thoughts? Maybe a bit too much?
      The %'s on the "assistance" Squats & Deadlifts will be 50-60% of Training Max.
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    • Question for some discussion:
      I have decided to perform some Deadlifts (like the BBB) after Squats and Squats after my Deadlift day...thoughts? Maybe a bit too much?
      The %'s on the "assistance" Squats & Deadlifts will be 50-60% of Training Max.
    Solid workout man.

    Actually I just did squats as the assistance work for my deadlifts yesterday after reading your log haha. I really liked it. Don't see why it would hurt. If you do high-bar squats or front squats, it's way more quad dominant that if you did low-bar, so it seems like a good pair to me. It's sort of like how they do Speed Deadlifts after Max squats at Westside.
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    • Question for some discussion:
      I have decided to perform some Deadlifts (like the BBB) after Squats and Squats after my Deadlift day...thoughts? Maybe a bit too much?
      The %'s on the "assistance" Squats & Deadlifts will be 50-60% of Training Max.
    Another thing you could do is instead of doing deadlifts after squats, you could do a deadlift "type" movement such as GHR's, Weighted Hypers, GM's etc. Same thing for a squat "type" movement after deads, you could do front squats, leg press, hack squats, SSB/Camber Bar Squats, box squats, etc.

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    what's this event again?
    Would you make a trip to PA? Iron Sport?

    Originally Posted by BobisMighty View Post
    Solid workout man.

    Actually I just did squats as the assistance work for my deadlifts yesterday after reading your log haha. I really liked it. Don't see why it would hurt. If you do high-bar squats or front squats, it's way more quad dominant that if you did low-bar, so it seems like a good pair to me. It's sort of like how they do Speed Deadlifts after Max squats at Westside.
    I actually do Low-Bar squats (loved it while doing Sheiko ) and I would love a Westside template/book...

    And today, my hips are fcuking sore!

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    Another thing you could do is instead of doing deadlifts after squats, you could do a deadlift "type" movement such as GHR's, Weighted Hypers, GM's etc. Same thing for a squat "type" movement after deads, you could do front squats, leg press, hack squats, SSB/Camber Bar Squats, box squats, etc.

    Decisions Decisions
    True, and while I did that initially (GHRs after Squats), I am just feeling as if I need and love the squatting 2x/week as in Sheiko. It DEF helped IMO.
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    subbed for this! i don't see a problem with doing deads on squat days and vice versa, but i also don't see the benefit in doing it that way. sessions are looking good for getting so little sleep! good luck prepping for this next meet

    how much time would you say you spend in the gym on 5/3/1 versus sheiko?
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    So on days you squat would you be doing Deads 5 X 10??
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    Originally Posted by lhockey View Post
    subbed for this! i don't see a problem with doing deads on squat days and vice versa, but i also don't see the benefit in doing it that way. sessions are looking good for getting so little sleep! good luck prepping for this next meet

    how much time would you say you spend in the gym on 5/3/1 versus sheiko?
    Benefit is or would be, IMO, similar to Sheiko in which the movements in which it helps with the Neurological function...mathers, chime in

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    So on days you squat would you be doing Deads 5 X 10??
    yep, what I was thinking 50-60% of my Training Max...which is now ~195-210...

    Though I was thinking of lowering it...and maybe doing 5x5...or even incorporate Speed Deads...may have to invest in some bands!
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    yea when you practice a lift more often you increase neural efficiency which is a big reason why you're getting stronger in certain lifts and one of the main principles of sheiko aside from accumulating fatigue. but dont you think 50-60% would be too light? i'd do something like 70-75% for 5 sets of 4. but that might affect your AMRAP days so im not sure...
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    yea when you practice a lift more often you increase neural efficiency which is a big reason why you're getting stronger in certain lifts and one of the main principles of sheiko aside from accumulating fatigue. but dont you think 50-60% would be too light? i'd do something like 70-75% for 5 sets of 4. but that might affect your AMRAP days so im not sure...
    Well...it shouldn't affect my AMRAP days/weeks (3 & 1 weeks) b/c it will be performed afterwards.

    And I gave myself, at least I think, sufficient time to recover between Squat and Deadlift Days.

    And I hear ya...so I may increase the % and lower reps...similar to Sheiko...but we'll see...specifically how I recover and what not.
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    loving the technical talk in here, i think i can use it for my own training
    Keep getting bigger and stronger without messing up my joints (already pretty screwed)

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    loving the technical talk in here, i think i can use it for my own training
    And just more food for thought (or confusion ):

    I lurked in another individual's 5/3/1 log and he mentioned something about Pendulum Wave...in which, if it's true, Westside's principles in incorporating Speed sets..and it would be done after the 5/3/1 set.

    Interesting approach...and maybe something to incorporate a little later on...
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    5/3/1 with higher volume: http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=148985&tid=

    might give it a try in the future.
    It's actually something that I implemented.... I considered my 1st cycle "inconsistent" and no reason for Deload, so I just increased the training max #'s and went back to week 1

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    • Despite my finger, I still went strapless and gripped and ripped.
    • Squats with ~60 sec rest had me sweating bullets
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    • So far it seems like a solid plan incorporating Squats after DL's and DL's after Squats...feelsgoodman.jpeg
    I'll let you be the guinea pig for this and I'll see how it works for you. It's gotta be good just for a change of pace...
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    I'll let you be the guinea pig for this and I'll see how it works for you. It's gotta be good just for a change of pace...
    I'll let you know how it goes. And as I mentioned above, I believe I will be implementing your pendulum idea into play....
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