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    Veins in lower abs ...........how does one get this?

    Of course one cannot spot reduce and that abs are made in the kitchen (after lifting heavy compounds throughout the week)....but seriously man lower ab vascularity just looks awesome.


    How do I acheive this?
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    Originally Posted by AlMuminoon View Post
    Of course one cannot spot reduce and that abs are made in the kitchen (after lifting heavy compounds throughout the week)....but seriously man lower ab vascularity just looks awesome.


    How do I acheive this?
    Defecit until you hit low enough BF
    Just stay patient and keep working, they will come
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    I hate that phrase "abs are made in the kitchen" abs are made in the gym, but it does take a spot-on diet to get the veins to show in the lowers. It took me 17 weeks this last time before mine started popping...
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    Originally Posted by Scott9585 View Post
    6-7% bodyfat.... good genetics
    I have visible lower ab veins in the 10% range - it's going to be different for everyone. As for how you get them - direct ab work paired with fat loss (fat loss is by far the most important).

    But yeah, abs are cooked in the kitchen - not the gym. Working out will increase the size, but you'll never see an ab without first getting control of your diet.
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    Originally Posted by msm00b View Post
    I have visible lower ab veins in the 10% range - it's going to be different for everyone.
    ^^ This..
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    Originally Posted by msm00b View Post
    I have visible lower ab veins in the 10% range - it's going to be different for everyone. As for how you get them - direct ab work paired with fat loss (fat loss is by far the most important).

    But yeah, abs are cooked in the kitchen - not the gym. Working out will increase the size, but you'll never see an ab without first getting control of your diet.
    this^ i had them when i was around 10%
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    Originally Posted by msm00b View Post
    But yeah, abs are cooked in the kitchen - not the gym. Working out will increase the size, but you'll never see an ab without first getting control of your diet.
    I strongly believe it's the other way around.... Abs are like any other muscle, you're never going to see them unless you build them first.
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    Originally Posted by jlsnyderTypeR View Post
    I strongly believe it's the other way around.... Abs are like any other muscle, you're never going to see them unless you build them first.
    Guys who never do direct ab work will have visible abs once they lose the requisite fat. Guys who always do ab work but never lose the fat never see abs. It's pretty straightforward.

    I'm not disagreeing that working your abs doesn't improve appearance, make them more visible, and make having visible abs at higher percentages possible - but you aren't ever going to see them until you lose the fat - regardless of how much you build them.
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    Originally Posted by jlsnyderTypeR View Post
    I strongly believe it's the other way around.... Abs are like any other muscle, you're never going to see them unless you build them first.
    Its both isn't it? I mean you have to diet down to a low bf% to have abs but you also have to have muscle there
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    If so, EVERY MUSCLE is made in the kitchen - right?
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    Originally Posted by msm00b View Post
    Guys who never do direct ab work will have visible abs once they lose the requisite fat. Guys who always do ab work but never lose the fat never see abs. It's pretty straightforward.

    I'm not disagreeing that working your abs doesn't improve appearance, make them more visible, and make having visible abs at higher percentages possible - but you aren't ever going to see them until you lose the fat - regardless of how much you build them.
    That's total BS! My abs show around 16% and it's mostly because I've built them. Dieting helps them to look more defined, SURE!

    Originally Posted by jon1995 View Post
    Its both isn't it? I mean you have to diet down to a low bf% to have abs but you also have to have muscle there
    Agreed! a little of both...

    Originally Posted by fafaedras View Post
    If so, EVERY MUSCLE is made in the kitchen - right?
    This is my point exactly, no one ever applies this logic to the rest of the body.
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    Originally Posted by jlsnyderTypeR View Post
    That's total BS! My abs show around 16% and it's mostly because I've built them. Dieting helps them to look more defined, SURE!
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    By abs you mean six-pack or just outline?
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    Originally Posted by jlsnyderTypeR View Post
    This is my point exactly, no one ever applies this logic to the rest of the body.
    I understand your logic BUT I think, for most people, fat seems to be stored on your stomach more than in other areas.... belly fat is almost always the last to go.
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    Originally Posted by fafaedras View Post
    By abs you mean six-pack or just outline?
    My six-pack is still visible and only starts to disappear around 15-16%.

    Originally Posted by igglesphan View Post
    I understand your logic BUT I think, for most people, fat seems to be stored on your stomach more than in other areas.... belly fat is almost always the last to go.
    I agree, but I also think most people will have to diet down to the look of a meth addict to see a visible six-pack with out doing direct ab work.
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    some guys can be as low as it gets bodyfat wise, and not have the veins, It's all genetics man, some people refer to it as "good genes" or whatever, but imo, it's not a bad or even a good thing, It's what one person see's it as, for example, I don't like it, so for me its a bad thing, but too bad I have it, all my veins are apparance, in my arm, forearm, Neck, chest, abs, my legs, everywhere, my veins are just sticking out even if i'm not working out.

    also my hands (Near the wrist) if you see it, you'd think i'm so old, I dunno thats how I see it, its all jumpy veins everywhere, its terrible in my eyes.
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    Originally Posted by .Geeza View Post
    bicep veins is where its at.
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    Take a shortcut: stretch marks.

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    I agree, but I also think most people will have to diet down to the look of a meth addict to see a visible six-pack with out doing direct ab work.
    Can I get a guide on this?
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    Originally Posted by NeedANick View Post
    Can I get a guide on this?
    I'm not sure what you're asking?
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    guys is it okay if I post a pic of myself and you tell me roughly how long (of hard damn work) it would take to lose the fat
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    Originally Posted by AlMuminoon View Post
    guys is it okay if I post a pic of myself and you tell me roughly how long (of hard damn work) it would take to lose the fat
    we'd have no way of knowing, some people get ab veins at 12% and have clear 6 packs some guys dont get six packs till there 9% and even than sometimes do not have veins, its all about genetics.
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    Veins are genetic. You can accentuate them by staying hydrated and cutting fat, but how large they are and where they are located is genetic. Cut fat is the only real answer to seeing vascularity. Everyone is and will always be different. If it helps to see a number though, you need to be 6.853% body fat for proper veinage. (Just playin, but you get the point?)
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    I got lower belly fat & love handles still but I got some veins on my obliques running down my torso.

    It boggles my mind how I can be vascular all over my body & still have a good 10lbs of extra fat to loose.

    Probably a little more.

    Hell, I got veins on my shoulders & upper chest.
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    Neck veins are cool too IMO.
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    Originally Posted by AlMuminoon View Post
    guys is it okay if I post a pic of myself and you tell me roughly how long (of hard damn work) it would take to lose the fat
    Post it up brother and we might be able to tell you if your goal is even possible, but as stated before, everyone going to be a little different and the net results will vary.
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