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    Must I really start with SS

    Can someone explain to me the importance of SS? Not that I'm saying it's bad but I'm just curious on why people suggest it for beginners.

    I've never use SS before. I make my own routine (which does work well for me, some parts though).

    Sure it focuses on compound lifts, but it's not like you can't fit the compound lifts on your own routine, and your routine could probably be even better with addition of more exercises.
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    you must do SS or you might die (srs)
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    If you don't understand the purpose of Starting Strength, why would you even TRY to comment on how to make it better?
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    If you don't understand the purpose of Starting Strength, why would you even TRY to comment on how to make it better?
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    People suggest it because it's simple, easy, and has a training volume low enough for that lady in a walker who comes to my gym.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    If you don't understand the purpose of Starting Strength, why would you even TRY to comment on how to make it better?
    That's why I asked the purpose of SS.
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    Its purpose is to give people the Starting Strength for their hypertrophy phase or further strength training.
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    Originally Posted by iksD View Post
    Its purpose is to give people the Starting Strength for their hypertrophy phase or further strength training.
    How is it any different than making your own routine while still including SS's routine. Would I do better as a beginner with that or is there something magical about SS.
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    Originally Posted by LulzYeah View Post
    How is it any different than making your own routine while still including SS's routine. Would I do better as a beginner with that or is there something magical about SS.
    Chance that you make SS better: 1%

    Chance that you make SS worse: 99%
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    I wish I started with a routine like SS or 5x5

    Wasted so much time do a split lol
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    Originally Posted by LulzYeah View Post
    Can someone explain to me the importance of SS? Not that I'm saying it's bad but I'm just curious on why people suggest it for beginners.

    I've never use SS before. I make my own routine (which does work well for me, some parts though).

    Sure it focuses on compound lifts, but it's not like you can't fit the compound lifts on your own routine, and your routine could probably be even better with addition of more exercises.
    Rippetoes because it's a learning experience and feature compound lifts . It gets you used to the basics , helps you ramp up weight quickly and get ''starting strength'' The routine is over mentioned on these forums though . It's not the only way .
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    Originally Posted by LulzYeah View Post
    Can someone explain to me the importance of SS? Not that I'm saying it's bad but I'm just curious on why people suggest it for beginners.

    I've never use SS before. I make my own routine (which does work well for me, some parts though).

    Sure it focuses on compound lifts, but it's not like you can't fit the compound lifts on your own routine, and your routine could probably be even better with addition of more exercises.
    As a beginner lifter you don't know enough about the affects more exercises will have on your recovery and gains . Chances are you'll make the routine worse. More isn't better. It's not the best routine ever by any means , there is no such thing . BUT what it does is teach you . You'll understand when you get older and as you lift more. For now just trust us on this one. And 5 day splits are a$$ unless they have high frequency which most don't
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    try it, if you dont like it go back to your own routine. i know plenty of people who have made great progress starting on a 5day split etc...
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    If you don't want to start with SS (why?) you could start with Full Body workout like this: Squat/Deadlift (squat 2x per week, deadlift once), Bench press, Pullups, Barbell Rows, Dips and Military Press.

    No splits and focus on compounds.
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    Originally Posted by ab931 View Post
    I wish I started with a routine like SS or 5x5

    Wasted so much time do a split lol
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    OP rippetoe created SS as you see it now for a reason

    it works
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    Originally Posted by tomasbird View Post
    If you don't want to start with SS (why?) you could start with Full Body workout like this: Squat/Deadlift (squat 2x per week, deadlift once), Bench press, Pullups, Barbell Rows, Dips and Military Press.

    No splits and focus on compounds.
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    You don't have to do anything. You don't even have to lift.

    Whatever program you do, if you lift and eat and stay consistent you will find some form of success. Some people like taking the longer/winding/traffic-ridden road versus the straight route.

    I don't understand why you wouldn't want to do SS though. It's fun
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    Originally Posted by DanielBeauchamp View Post
    People suggest it because it's simple, easy, and has a training volume low enough for that lady in a walker who comes to my gym.
    Looking at your log, your self-designed workouts have a lot less volume than the SS program...

    Squat:
    135x2
    225x1
    275x1
    315x1
    355x1
    315x5 (rep PR)
    That is 3015lbs moved. Compare that to someone doing 275 for 3x5 - 4125lbs moved.

    95x3
    115x2
    135x1
    155x1
    180x1 (PR)
    165x2 (tired)
    1315lbs moved. Compare to someone doing 3x5 @ 140lbs - 2100

    Your last deadlift session:

    Deadlift:
    135x2
    225x1
    315x1
    405x1
    440x1
    455x2x1 (PR)

    2565lbs moved. Compare to 315x5, 365x5 - 3400lbs moved.

    It seems like you are the one skimping on volume...
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    i never did ss and i look great and am strong off a 4-5 day split. always focused on my big lifts and then did more of hypertrophy with all other exercises. maybe id be stronger if i did ss or maybe not but the results from my split are great with good nutrition.

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    Originally Posted by Ka0s View Post
    It seems like you are the one skimping on volume...
    Lately I have been keeping the volume low as about 1.5 months ago I managed to **** my back up somehow and put myself out of the gym for 3 weeks straight with muscle relaxants just so I could breathe properly.

    My deadlift volume has always been low, though, as I find I increase in poundage faster that way.

    I am, however, doing 275 for 15 singles on front squats tomorrow; which is 20lbs off my max of 295. That's something Rippetoe would probably shudder at...
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    I would shudder at it as well
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